2019 Draft Thread

[emunney]

There are some guys who I don't love who I'd be totally happy if we drafted them under the assumption that it means our coaches think they can get the most out of them, like Lu Dort, who might be a taller Bledsoe if he wants it.

A guy who I could see fitting this is Joe Wieskamp. He’s just testing the waters but I could see us promising him at 30 and him staying in unexpectedly.

I like Wieskamp quite a bit though.

[worthlessBucks]

Jerome gave off a better version of Greivis Vasquez to me in the games I watched. Did enjoy some Vasquez back in his college days, afraid to even google how many years ago that was. That was ages before Hammond and Kidd used their magic acquisition fingers to get him though.

Miss draftexpress fwiw.

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[Nowak008]

Miss draftexpress fwiw.

Yea me too. What are you guys using now a days?

[Badgerlander]

Yea me too. What are you guys using now a days?

They are still in progress but

https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.244860096.43047194.1552782352-297612184.1550942814

[tski1972]

Herro is going to test the NBA waters.

[mattg]

Herro is going to test the NBA waters.

If he’s a first rounder then he’s gone (which is what I expect to happen).

[Chuck Diesel]

What do you guys think of Ignas "Iggy" Brazdeikis? Horst obviously has some familiarity with drafting a Michigan product.

[LuessiT]

What do you guys think of Ignas "Iggy" Brazdeikis? Horst obviously has some familiarity with drafting a Michigan product.

I've posted on him before. Does a lot of things but doesn't do much that well. Can't pass to save his life. Very volatile draft range.

[mattg]

What do you guys think of Ignas "Iggy" Brazdeikis? Horst obviously has some familiarity with drafting a Michigan product.

I don’t see it with him.

[LuessiT]

What do you guys think of Ignas "Iggy" Brazdeikis? Horst obviously has some familiarity with drafting a Michigan product.

I don’t see it with him.

Eh I think you have to get him in a workout and judge him from there but there are a few question marks. More likely than not a late second rounder for me.

[Ruzious]

Yea me too. What are you guys using now a days?

They are still in progress but

https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.244860096.43047194.1552782352-297612184.1550942814

Stepien has some interesting articles, but when they still insist on putting Culver ahead of Morant and even putting Morant in a lower tier... that's crazy, imo.

[LuessiT]

Yea me too. What are you guys using now a days?

They are still in progress but

https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.244860096.43047194.1552782352-297612184.1550942814

Stepien has some interesting articles, but when they still insist on putting Culver ahead of Morant and even putting Morant in a lower tier... that's crazy, imo.

The Stepien rankings are pretty meaningless. They're way understaffed and don't really care about updating their rankings until close to the draft. Also their rankings are big boards and not Mock Drafts. BIG difference. I have absolutely zero problems with someone ranking Culver ahead of Morant by the way.

Edit: For example I have Keldon Johnson currently on 4 of my big board. Do I expect him to go at 4? Certainty not. But if I was on the clock he'd be the prospect I'd like the 4th most.

[emunney]

How good do you think Culver will be? I don't love his feel tbh, but that's in the context of wanting a guy who could be an all star. I'd expect him to be a deserving starter in time. Man, I'm glad I don't have a top 5 pick in this draft. Very good chance your guy will be overpaid 2 or more years of his rookie deal. Not that overpaying guys matters if you're bad enough to pick top 5.

[LuessiT]

How good do you think Culver will be? I don't love his feel tbh, but that's in the context of wanting a guy who could be an all star. I'd expect him to be a deserving starter in time. Man, I'm glad I don't have a top 5 pick in this draft. Very good chance your guy will be overpaid 2 or more years of his rookie deal. Not that overpaying guys matters if you're bad enough to pick top 5.

I hate where he's projected to be. Culver is well rounded and would 'just' need to develop linearly but that's not how basketball works. He doesn't bring a NBA-ready skill imo and would need some lineary development to become good. But that is not how the NBA works. You need to shine in one area or people will call you a bust.

Culver is the perfect pick for a team just starting out with their long rebuild and has some strong player development. Culver will fail if you expect him to play big minutes in year one.

Edit: Also would like to know how big he measures out. Have heard multiple times that he's supposed to be taller than his listed height. If he's actually got a forwards body I'd rate him much more favourably.

[mattg]

They are still in progress but

https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.244860096.43047194.1552782352-297612184.1550942814

Stepien has some interesting articles, but when they still insist on putting Culver ahead of Morant and even putting Morant in a lower tier... that's crazy, imo.

The Stepien rankings are pretty meaningless. They're way understaffed and don't really care about updating their rankings until close to the draft. Also their rankings are big boards and not Mock Drafts. BIG difference. I have absolutely zero problems with someone ranking Culver ahead of Morant by the way.

I’m lower than the consensus on Morant for sure, but culver I feel is obscenely overrated this year. What do you like about him? To me, his J is a train wreck that needs a complete rework since his release is slow, the release point is atrocious, and his elbow action is awkward. He doesn’t move well laterally on defense. Not a fan of his shot selection and don’t envision him being a decision maker. To me he is getting overrated because it’s a weak draft up top, he played on a good team, and he looks like he should be really athletic. But I don’t see anything he does translating to the next level. He screams late lotto pick at best to me. Is he really a better prospect than Keldon Johnson (who I’m also not super high on)?

[emunney]

I don't see why Culver would be top 5 and NAW would be end of 1st, makes no sense to me.

[LuessiT]

Stepien has some interesting articles, but when they still insist on putting Culver ahead of Morant and even putting Morant in a lower tier... that's crazy, imo.

The Stepien rankings are pretty meaningless. They're way understaffed and don't really care about updating their rankings until close to the draft. Also their rankings are big boards and not Mock Drafts. BIG difference. I have absolutely zero problems with someone ranking Culver ahead of Morant by the way.

I’m lower than the consensus on Morant for sure, but culver I feel is obscenely overrated this year. What do you like about him? To me, his J is a train wreck that needs a complete rework since his release is slow, the release point is atrocious, and his elbow action is awkward. He doesn’t move well laterally on defense. Not a fan of his shot selection and don’t envision him being a decision maker. To me he is getting overrated because it’s a weak draft up top, he played on a good team, and he looks like he should be really athletic. But I don’t see anything he does translating to the next level. He screams late lotto pick at best to me. Is he really a better prospect than Keldon Johnson (who I’m also not super high on)?

I'm the wrong guy to talk to because I actually don't like Culver (I have him 21st on my board!) but I can emphasize why someone could like him.
That said there are multiple basketball related reasons why I don't like Culver but one is more on the business kind of side. I've come to the understanding that you need to draft players that maintain value during their rookie contract. That doesn't mean you can't draft raw players but unless you're absolutely sure that you will stick to your draftee for 4 years you need a player that will look promising to other front offices. Culver will most likely look rough in his first 2 years and doesn't project to be a max player by the end of his rookie contract. Those type of players are especially rough because now you've used a high pick, spent valueable time developing your guy, might actually like what you got and some other team that didn't invest a dime into all that offers him a contract that you feel uncomfortable matching.
On the contrary I think RJ Barrett is an excellent pick. You just need to have the guts to be willing to trade him after 2 years if you don't think he'll be your #1 option going into the future.

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