2019 Draft Thread

[Ruzious]

They are still in progress but

https://www.thestepien.com/2019-draft-rankings/

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/?_ga=2.244860096.43047194.1552782352-297612184.1550942814

Stepien has some interesting articles, but when they still insist on putting Culver ahead of Morant and even putting Morant in a lower tier... that's crazy, imo.

The Stepien rankings are pretty meaningless. They're way understaffed and don't really care about updating their rankings until close to the draft. Also their rankings are big boards and not Mock Drafts. BIG difference. I have absolutely zero problems with someone ranking Culver ahead of Morant by the way.

Edit: For example I have Keldon Johnson currently on 4 of my big board. Do I expect him to go at 4? Certainty not. But if I was on the clock he'd be the prospect I'd like the 4th most.

Tbh, I don't see how anyone could consider Culver to be even close to Morant - to the point that I can't take what they say seriously. Culver's basically a Troy Brown level prospect - a borderline late lotto type pick. We certainly saw enough of him in the NCAA tournament. Morant has a good chance to be a great player. Anyway, just my view of things.

[LuessiT]

Also I think Sekou could go as high as #2. Hard to really peg him.

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[Ruzious]

Also I think Sekou could go as high as #2. Hard to really peg him.

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Certainly a wild card and a terrific big athlete. Good to hear he's stepped up.

[LuessiT]

Stepien has some interesting articles, but when they still insist on putting Culver ahead of Morant and even putting Morant in a lower tier... that's crazy, imo.

The Stepien rankings are pretty meaningless. They're way understaffed and don't really care about updating their rankings until close to the draft. Also their rankings are big boards and not Mock Drafts. BIG difference. I have absolutely zero problems with someone ranking Culver ahead of Morant by the way.

Edit: For example I have Keldon Johnson currently on 4 of my big board. Do I expect him to go at 4? Certainty not. But if I was on the clock he'd be the prospect I'd like the 4th most.

Tbh, I don't see how anyone could consider Culver to be even close to Morant - to the point that I can't take what they say seriously. Culver's basically a Troy Brown level prospect - a borderline late lotto type pick. We certainly saw enough of him in the NCAA tournament. Morant has a good chance to be a great player. Anyway, just my view of things.

Culver's performance in the NCAA tournament isn't reflected in the stepiens board. They have Jontay Porter 6th for god's sake.
I wouldn't use the stepien for anything other than their articles but Culver over Morant is definately not a reason for it.

[H2tObes]

Herro is going to test the NBA waters.

Great choice to go to Kentucky. Super excited to see what he does in the NBA

[LuessiT]

Herro is going to test the NBA waters.

Great choice to go to Kentucky. Super excited to see what he does in the NBA

He's a really solid pick at the end of the first round. High chance you end up getting a really good contract.

[mattg]

Herro is going to test the NBA waters.

Great choice to go to Kentucky. Super excited to see what he does in the NBA

He's a really solid pick at the end of the first round. High chance you end up getting a really good contract.

Yep an easy plug and play guy. Excellent shooter who can make shots spotting up, off dribble, off screens, etc. he can attack a closeout and makes good decisions and he plays really hard. Obviously needs to add strength and consistency as well as work at improving at shooting off movement a bit (id like to see him create more separation working off screens). But flat out you don’t often find guys with his skill profile at age 19 at the end of the first round, especially with a giannis-esque work ethic.

[LuessiT]

Great choice to go to Kentucky. Super excited to see what he does in the NBA

He's a really solid pick at the end of the first round. High chance you end up getting a really good contract.

Yep an easy plug and play guy. Excellent shooter who can make shots spotting up, off dribble, off screens, etc. he can attack a closeout and makes good decisions and he plays really hard. Obviously needs to add strength and consistency as well as work at improving at shooting off movement a bit (id like to see him create more separation working off screens). But flat out you don’t often find guys with his skill profile at age 19 at the end of the first round, especially with a giannis-esque work ethic.

Also if you're looking to add such a type of player via FA, you're going to struggle. There are only a handful of role players capable of creating separation off movement and making the jumper. Off the top of my head JJ, Korver and Shamet - that's it. Probably missed a few but you get the point. I don't think the price on players with that skillset is properly set because it's just so rare.

[mattg]

He's a really solid pick at the end of the first round. High chance you end up getting a really good contract.

Yep an easy plug and play guy. Excellent shooter who can make shots spotting up, off dribble, off screens, etc. he can attack a closeout and makes good decisions and he plays really hard. Obviously needs to add strength and consistency as well as work at improving at shooting off movement a bit (id like to see him create more separation working off screens). But flat out you don’t often find guys with his skill profile at age 19 at the end of the first round, especially with a giannis-esque work ethic.

Also if you're looking to add such a type of player via FA, you're going to struggle. There are only a handful of role players capable of creating separation off movement and making the jumper. Off the top of my head JJ, Korver and Shamet - that's it. Probably missed a few but you get the point. I don't think the price on players with that skillset is properly set because it's just so rare.

Yeah elite shooting is an extremely rare commodity outside of star players. The other thing with Herro is that a lot of people question if the athleticism increase in the nba will make it harder for him to function....but I think the increased court size and overall spacing allow a dude like him to flourish because defenders have to close out on him so hard and he does have enough ball skills to penetrate the gaps and make plays when it’s not so congested.

[LittleRooster]

Wouldn’t mind the Bucks drafting Herro


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[TaterTots]

Wouldn’t mind the Bucks drafting Herro


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he wont be there

[Badgerlander]

Stepien has some interesting articles, but when they still insist on putting Culver ahead of Morant and even putting Morant in a lower tier... that's crazy, imo.

The Stepien rankings are pretty meaningless. They're way understaffed and don't really care about updating their rankings until close to the draft. Also their rankings are big boards and not Mock Drafts. BIG difference. I have absolutely zero problems with someone ranking Culver ahead of Morant by the way.

Edit: For example I have Keldon Johnson currently on 4 of my big board. Do I expect him to go at 4? Certainty not. But if I was on the clock he'd be the prospect I'd like the 4th most.

Tbh, I don't see how anyone could consider Culver to be even close to Morant - to the point that I can't take what they say seriously. Culver's basically a Troy Brown level prospect - a borderline late lotto type pick. We certainly saw enough of him in the NCAA tournament. Morant has a good chance to be a great player. Anyway, just my view of things.

Overrating or underrating players based on the tourney can get you in Joe Alexander level trouble. Athletic wings that play D and have handles will always be overrated though because there is a shortage in the nba of good wings. I do like Ja though too, kind of reminds me of Brandon Jennings.

[Portugal Bucks]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/neemias-queta

God, please make it happen.

(not being patriot)

[mattg]

Also I think Sekou could go as high as #2. Hard to really peg him.

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Certainly a wild card and a terrific big athlete. Good to hear he's stepped up.

Reminds a lot of Pascal Siakim. That’s probably what you hope he turns into

[LuessiT]

Also I think Sekou could go as high as #2. Hard to really peg him.

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Certainly a wild card and a terrific big athlete. Good to hear he's stepped up.

Reminds a lot of Pascal Siakim. That’s probably what you hope he turns into

I don't like comparisons but he's nothing like Siakam. He doesn't have any isolation or post game. He's projected to be an even better athlete and everything else is to be figured out over time. Has some handling ability without calling him a ball handler, has some vision without calling him a playmaker and has some shooting touch without calling him a shooter. He's what you want him to be and what you can make out of him.

[mattg]

Certainly a wild card and a terrific big athlete. Good to hear he's stepped up.

Reminds a lot of Pascal Siakim. That’s probably what you hope he turns into

I don't like comparisons but he's nothing like Siakam. He doesn't have any isolation or post game. He's projected to be an even better athlete and everything else is to be figured out over time. Has some handling ability without calling him a ball handler, has some vision without calling him a playmaker and has some shooting touch without calling him a shooter. He's what you want him to be and what you can make out of him.

Did you see Pascal as a prospect? Sekou just reminds of when Pascal was a college guy and had literally none of the polish he’s developed in the nba. They’re very similar in their tool sets and how you’d hope to develop them over time.

[LuessiT]

Reminds a lot of Pascal Siakim. That’s probably what you hope he turns into

I don't like comparisons but he's nothing like Siakam. He doesn't have any isolation or post game. He's projected to be an even better athlete and everything else is to be figured out over time. Has some handling ability without calling him a ball handler, has some vision without calling him a playmaker and has some shooting touch without calling him a shooter. He's what you want him to be and what you can make out of him.

Did you see Pascal as a prospect? Sekou just reminds of when Pascal was a college guy and had literally none of the polish he’s developed in the nba. They’re very similar in their tool sets and how you’d hope to develop them over time.

I did. I wasn't very high on him at the time but I've changed a lot of what I value over the years. Comparisons suck though. Players that are very similar develope very differently. Who would have thought that college KMidds would develope into iso KMidds? Comparisons add nothing but inaccuracy because no player is the same or developes the same. But Sekou is super far away from Siakam (college or current NBA). Also Sekou is way way younger than Siakam was when he was drafted.

[Ruzious]

If we're going to compare Doumbaya to Siakam - gotta ask if Doumbaya has the great instincts and feel for the game that Siakam has. Probably not.

[LuessiT]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/neemias-queta

God, please make it happen.

(not being patriot)

He's a prospect I like decently well. Would like to know how his jumpshot projects to be. He's actually been shooting a low amount of 3's with solid success but he's also been pretty average from the line in a not so small amount of attempts. Good feel for the game and has very good vision in the post despite his negative A/TO ratio.
He's super young and probably unplayable in his first year but his ceiling could be pretty high. That said I'm not sure I'd draft him at our pick if he were available over someone who can contribute right away

[RiotPunch]

Queta is pretty intriguing. Agree the free throws and turnovers are a bit alarming, but he moves so well and is so athletic with great size/length, feel, anticipation.

Bring him in for a workout, if he's drilling threes at a good clip then I'm cool with him. Anxious to see who else decides to go back to school, because right now it's shaping up to be a potentially real solid group available when we pick.