Khris Middleton Thread

skones · Post #641 » by **skones** » Thu Feb 6, 2020 3:56 pm

Diggr14 wrote:Teams are going to start to try to wall him off again come playoff time and force him to overdribble or to make passes under duress. I hope Bud and Giannis have a strategy how to handle this, they did not adapt well versus Toronto last year. One thing is for sure, there are some teams in the East that are serious defensive squads when they want to be. Either way, to circle back. We need Middleton to show up. There is no way around it. Unless someone like Donte starts shooting 40+% for 3 and gets scalding hot in the playoffs ie: Fred Van Vleet last year. But you can't depend on role players to suddenly find God mode.

Erm, where have you been all season? The wrinkles are all over the place. This isn't the same offense we had last year. Not even close.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #642 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 5:28 pm

Middleton has become flat nasty. Needs discussion.

That is all.

KonKrete · Post #643 » by **KonKrete** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 5:33 pm

Is he the 2nd best wing in the East this year?

SupremeHustle · Post #644 » by **SupremeHustle** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 5:47 pm

Khris is having a better season this season than any season that 7-time all-star Joe Johnson had.

4xBuck · Post #645 » by **4xBuck** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 5:53 pm

I didn't realise he's doing that 90/50/40 thing this year.

Damn!

Spoiler:

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #646 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 8:00 pm

KonKrete wrote:Is he the 2nd best wing in the East this year?

Possible. The fact he's putting up these numbers and efficiency without affecting Giannis usage and production is what mesmerizes me.

What player short of the HOF guys in thus league would we rather have in his role and I can't think of a soul

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Coach Carter · Post #647 » by **Coach Carter** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 8:31 pm

Bud letting him shoot the mid is a good thing.

KonKrete · Post #648 » by **KonKrete** » Sun Feb 9, 2020 9:58 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
KonKrete wrote:Is he the 2nd best wing in the East this year?
Possible. The fact he's putting up these numbers and efficiency without affecting Giannis usage and production is what mesmerizes me.

What player short of the HOF guys in thus league would we rather have in his role and I can't think of a soul

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Compare his numbers (per 36 and 100) to Tatum, Siakam, and Butler and then when you consider how nonball dominant he is....he's having a special season.

GHOSTofSIKMA · Post #649 » by **GHOSTofSIKMA** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 7:54 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:Khris is having a better season this season than any season that 7-time all-star Joe Johnson had.

shoot. id like to see a comparison of the top seasons in nba history for championship level #2s all based off per36 or 100poss type numbers. I think this season is HOF level. the per minute/ per possession/ rapm numbers are all insane

emunney · Post #650 » by **emunney** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:06 pm

Coach Carter wrote:Bud letting him shoot the mid is a good thing.

Shooting 60% from right midrange.

DingleJerry · Post #651 » by **DingleJerry** » Mon Feb 10, 2020 8:15 pm

Also like that some of that mid range that's been added has been off the dribble or ball screen type stuff as opposed to high post ups that have like no movement or offensive flow. Seems like he's been money on the ball screen pull up at roughly the FT line, almost like a floater

All The Bucks · Post #652 » by **All The Bucks** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:42 pm

Like I said, underpaid

Shaffty · Post #653 » by **Shaffty** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:14 pm

Read on Twitter

most athletic thing hes done?

drew881 · Post #654 » by **drew881** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:29 pm

Shaffty wrote:

Read on Twitter

most athletic thing hes done?

That preseason dunk on Butler a few years ago was better. I’m ok with him not going to hard at the rim. See Kristaps, 2018

giannis and 1 · Post #655 » by **giannis and 1** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 10:30 pm

He has been amazing this year; a perfect fit for our team.

I look at it this way: his salary this year is 30.6m and he has been worth that.

Next year he will make 33m and will probably be worth that.

Ayt · Post #656 » by **Ayt** » Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:11 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:Khris is having a better season this season than any season that 7-time all-star Joe Johnson had.

This is the only year Johnson made an All-NBA team (3rd Team). He also even got some MVP votes. Incidentally, it is the age 28 season for both.

HKPackFan · Post #657 » by **HKPackFan** » Wed Feb 12, 2020 9:20 am

Ayt wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Khris is having a better season this season than any season that 7-time all-star Joe Johnson had.

This is the only year Johnson made an All-NBA team (3rd Team). He also even got some MVP votes. Incidentally, it is the age 28 season for both.

thats amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think giannis's inhuman play has put a shadow over how incredible kris regular season has been.

DavidDunn21 · Post #658 » by **DavidDunn21** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 6:04 am

SupremeHustle wrote:Khris is having a better season this season than any season that 7-time all-star Joe Johnson had.

It's certainly arguable. Consider though:

1. The season isn't over
2. There's a reason you picked Joe Johnson (he was an All-Star in the East, it's like comparing someone to Lowry)
3. Joe Johnson has a historic advantage in clutch performance over Khris who actively hides or just misses
4. Johnson once averaged 25 a game at 41 MPG, comparisons between eras get a little wonky
5. Khris plays with the best player in the NBA and gets to pick his spots

Context matters, as always.

KidA24 · Post #659 » by **KidA24** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:44 am

DavidDunn21 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Khris is having a better season this season than any season that 7-time all-star Joe Johnson had.

It's certainly arguable. Consider though:

3. Joe Johnson has a historic advantage in clutch performance over Khris who actively hides or just misses

Watch on YouTube

DavidDunn21 · Post #660 » by **DavidDunn21** » Thu Feb 13, 2020 9:20 am

KidA24 wrote:
DavidDunn21 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Khris is having a better season this season than any season that 7-time all-star Joe Johnson had.

It's certainly arguable. Consider though:

3. Joe Johnson has a historic advantage in clutch performance over Khris who actively hides or just misses

Watch on YouTube

Yeah thanks for that one fluke shot we all remember in a game we lost in a series we lost.

There was an Athletic article bouncing around here some time back about how bad he was in the clutch. I wonder why that never got any traction with the local media. Anyways, my well established beef with him is not his missing shots. Everyone misses shots. Khris in the past has elected to maybe take one or two looks in the last 5:00 of any close game. Like just another one of the boys taking his turn. It remains to be seen whether this new confident red hot Khris will be any different. I'm skeptical, but hey maybe it was all Brogdon's fault.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=2&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&player_id=middlkh01&order_by=date_game

So this doesn't cover him throwing the ball away against Toronto in the 2017 elimination game or at the Nuggets up 3 away from his own basket. It doesn't cover him pump faking and not getting a shot off last year against the Suns, or whatever that was this year against the Jazz where he didn't get the shot off.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/shot_finder.cgi?request=1&match=play&game_num_min=0&game_num_max=99&is_playoffs=N&q4=Y&q5=Y&time_remain_minutes=2&time_remain_seconds=0&time_remain_comp=le&is_tying=Y&is_go_ahead=Y&player_id=brogdma01&order_by=date_game