FISERV Forum Thread

[soxperry]

sales have actually gone pretty well for me this season, aside from a couple games that just didnt sell. the mavs game i understood. the lakers game was a headscratcher but i ended up going and had a mostly great time. mostly.

still bracing for the inevitable spring slaughter but i might just be renewing

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

sales have actually gone pretty well for me this season, aside from a couple games that just didnt sell. the mavs game i understood. the lakers game was a headscratcher but i ended up going and had a mostly great time. mostly.

still bracing for the inevitable spring slaughter but i might just be renewing

My issue of renewing is that you have to do it so early and involves a ton of risk. If Giannis's knee bends anymore against the Hawks, 2021-22 tickets would have been worthless. I also think there is a non-zero chance this is the last run where if we lose in the semi's and looking at Midds wanting $50m and Brook wanting $20m, the owners might take their money and run.

[Thunder Muscle]

sales have actually gone pretty well for me this season, aside from a couple games that just didnt sell. the mavs game i understood. the lakers game was a headscratcher but i ended up going and had a mostly great time. mostly.

still bracing for the inevitable spring slaughter but i might just be renewing

Same here. I havent had to return as many games this year so far and Im above my cost on the ones I resold. The games I have left after the new year are majority good matchups so I think I will at the very least breakeven on value vs paid before factoring in benefits.

Still on fence of renewing though. I dont want to give up years of loyalty and I feel more connected when a season holder, but Im also getting over selling and worrying about losing my ass one of these years. My son is slowly getting interested though too, so that may keep me onboard yet.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

sales have actually gone pretty well for me this season, aside from a couple games that just didnt sell. the mavs game i understood. the lakers game was a headscratcher but i ended up going and had a mostly great time. mostly.

still bracing for the inevitable spring slaughter but i might just be renewing

Same here. I havent had to return as many games this year so far and Im above my cost on the ones I resold. The games I have left after the new year are majority good matchups so I think I will at the very least breakeven on value vs paid before factoring in benefits.

Still on fence of renewing though. I dont want to give up years of loyalty and I feel more connected when a season holder, but Im also getting over selling and worrying about losing my ass one of these years. My son is slowly getting interested though too, so that may keep me onboard yet.

I was in Moab over thanksgiving, and my buddy who has seats next to me goes "Who did you sell the tickets to?" It was five minutes before tip. I thought we had a made a trade but we never finalized it and i never sent the tickets over. It was my mistake, but managing 41 games with kids and work becomes a burden.

[Thunder Muscle]

sales have actually gone pretty well for me this season, aside from a couple games that just didnt sell. the mavs game i understood. the lakers game was a headscratcher but i ended up going and had a mostly great time. mostly.

still bracing for the inevitable spring slaughter but i might just be renewing

My issue of renewing is that you have to do it so early and involves a ton of risk. If Giannis's knee bends anymore against the Hawks, 2021-22 tickets would have been worthless. I also think there is a non-zero chance this is the last run where if we lose in the semi's and looking at Midds wanting $50m and Brook wanting $20m, the owners might take their money and run.

No argument here. I dont think Giannis is going to re-sign next time around too. If the team drops my tickets by 25%, I would power through it. But doubt that happens and then I dont think there is any point in renewing.

[Thunder Muscle]

sales have actually gone pretty well for me this season, aside from a couple games that just didnt sell. the mavs game i understood. the lakers game was a headscratcher but i ended up going and had a mostly great time. mostly.

still bracing for the inevitable spring slaughter but i might just be renewing

Same here. I havent had to return as many games this year so far and Im above my cost on the ones I resold. The games I have left after the new year are majority good matchups so I think I will at the very least breakeven on value vs paid before factoring in benefits.

Still on fence of renewing though. I dont want to give up years of loyalty and I feel more connected when a season holder, but Im also getting over selling and worrying about losing my ass one of these years. My son is slowly getting interested though too, so that may keep me onboard yet.

I was in Moab over thanksgiving, and my buddy who has seats next to me goes "Who did you sell the tickets to?" It was five minutes before tip. I thought we had a made a trade but we never finalized it and i never sent the tickets over. It was my mistake, but managing 41 games with kids and work becomes a burden.

100%. I was all about it pre-kids, but each year gets to be more burdensome and the margin for error is thinner. I have spreadsheets and ****, but its still a pain sometimes. Plus StubHub half the time the buyers miss the transfer email and then they’re on me to send screenshots, re-transfer, etc. Im almost done using them. Plus I dont know how much having to claim them will hurt me tax time. That is another new dynamic.

[M-C-G]

Same here. I havent had to return as many games this year so far and Im above my cost on the ones I resold. The games I have left after the new year are majority good matchups so I think I will at the very least breakeven on value vs paid before factoring in benefits.

Still on fence of renewing though. I dont want to give up years of loyalty and I feel more connected when a season holder, but Im also getting over selling and worrying about losing my ass one of these years. My son is slowly getting interested though too, so that may keep me onboard yet.

I was in Moab over thanksgiving, and my buddy who has seats next to me goes "Who did you sell the tickets to?" It was five minutes before tip. I thought we had a made a trade but we never finalized it and i never sent the tickets over. It was my mistake, but managing 41 games with kids and work becomes a burden.

100%. I was all about it pre-kids, but each year gets to be more burdensome and the margin for error is thinner. I have spreadsheets and ****, but its still a pain sometimes. Plus StubHub half the time the buyers miss the transfer email and then they’re on me to send screenshots, re-transfer, etc. Im almost done using them. Plus I dont know how much having to claim them will hurt me tax time. That is another new dynamic.

I thought I would miss season tickets but the amount of administration and getting stuck with tickets I couldn’t sell, the team pumping up,the prices so much and now the game forum experience (which I am just not enjoying as much as I used to, never mind spending 40 for a couple of beers) just has me happy to be out of it.

I really don’t miss it and find that free tickets come my way enough for me to get to a few games anyway.


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[steger_3434]

Do any of you have season tickets because you love the game or are most season ticket holders basically using it as a stock market type investment strategy with weekly dividends?


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[DanoMac]

I have, and have had, season tickets because I love the Bucks, and because I don't want to pay up the ass in the Playoffs. Without season tickets I would have never been able to attend a Finals game, much less 2, and see the Bucks win a championship in front of my eyes. Still pinch myself to this day.

Seeing Giannis on a damn near weekly basis is something I'll cherish forever, too.

[Thunder Muscle]

Do any of you have season tickets because you love the game or are most season ticket holders basically using it as a stock market type investment strategy with weekly dividends?


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For me I get them to keep playoff spending in check and can be a sucker for some of the perks offered albeit not quite the same. Due to my location I cannot just attend on a whim so I definitely rely on selling to friends/third party to ensure I’m not losing money on it. I treat it as an investment on a small scale, but at its core its to see quality games without paying premium prices and/or getting some unique experiences/perks along the way. Every year just try to logically ponder if what I pay is worth it. If I make money, great. If I start to lose, then I have to think about getting out.

To Dano’s point though, its nice having the opportunity to get Finals tickets and go to multiple games. I opted out in 2020-21 and had to pay out the ass to get in the building.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Do any of you have season tickets because you love the game or are most season ticket holders basically using it as a stock market type investment strategy with weekly dividends?

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I love the game but more just doing a cost benefit analysis. I want to be a STH (especially to guarantee finals tickets) but it isn't feasible to go to 41 games both economically or from a time standpoint. That's why you see us bitching about ticket resale, it may only be five games a year or ten but it is still a pain in the ass. I think most of us are debating if it's worth it to get STH and break even on the games with don't go to / maybe subsidize some games we do go to Versus buying single game 3rd or specials from the bucks.

If you pre-buy 41 home games a year in advance, you should either be getting a significant price discount or really nice benefits. The bitching it mostly wondering if the cost / benefit is there to be a STH. I will go to 30+ games a year either way.

[soboMP3]

Before having two little ones, which basically costs us twice our mortgage in daycare alone, I was doing 6 or 7 games w/ 2 seats in a full season package split between friends. Then add in a sitter. Now we do 3 games. Last year, 2 of our 3 games featured "No Giannis". For the price ($110+/ticket), I think I'll just go the stubhub route from here on out, after I see the day's starting lineups. This "resting the starters" thing, while good for the team, Is bull**** for the fans.

[Profound23]

Does anyone know if you sit in the Jockey Club, is that free food or just more "elite" restaurants?

It says on the Bucks site that you have access to high end restaurants, but I remember being in the Jockey Club a few years ago and we got free food and drinks.

[soxperry]

Does anyone know if you sit in the Jockey Club, is that free food or just more "elite" restaurants?

It says on the Bucks site that you have access to high end restaurants, but I remember being in the Jockey Club a few years ago and we got free food and drinks.

unless i screwed up, it appeared that you simply had access to different restaurants than the general public. and the term high end is being used very liberally, there. however, there is a dessert stand that was selling some pretty tasty looking numbers. to me, it wasn't really worth it. i'm very happy with the selection that i can get just by going up the first escalator (bbq) and then heading up to 209 (poke, mac, chik fil a)

[soxperry]

Do any of you have season tickets because you love the game or are most season ticket holders basically using it as a stock market type investment strategy with weekly dividends?


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My primary reason is that i not only want to guarantee ECF and Finals tickets should we make it, but i also want to be in really good seats and not have to break the bank. I do enjoy just being a season ticket holder in general. Even if it's an illusion, you feel more part of it. I only go to between 4 and 6 regular season games per year, usually the ones that dont sell. I go to every single playoff game. As for profit? hahahaha, that hasn't happened for me yet. I think if i factor in the games that I went to this season i have a shot at coming out a little ahead which is just fine with me. But a profit that is worth all the time and energy to list the tickets, monitor them, adjust the prices (not to mention the stress involved in sweating out tickets that come down to the wire), i dont think that is possible. That's also fine.

Our finals run, i actually had taken that year off from being a STH because i was mad at how my rep handled something. I decided to jump back in (for the next season) during the Atlanta series. It was the morning before the game that Giannis messed up his knee. I thought it was an ACL and i had just wasted nearly 10k. What a swing! This definitely feels more like gambling than investing.

[old skool]

I am a STH so I don't have to figure out tickets for every single game, especially the post season. I go to most games, selling a few that I can't make. Sometimes it is a bit overwhelming - three games in a week is a bit much driving from the Chicago suburbs - but I enjoy the season more than not. Games are a chance to hang with adult sons, but when they can't make it my GF enjoys the games. Hey, I endured 25 years of really bad basketball, so this era is wonderful. All because of a lucky 15th first round pick in June of 2013. In many ways I liked Bradley Center more than Fiserv. Fiserv is obviously a better building, but the extra food options are lost on me. The Bucks marketing efforts are brutal. It feels like you have to baby sit the sales staff making inane contacts to satisfy their higher ups. STHs are viewed as contacts to be mined, more than loyal customers to be appreciated. Reveals the narrow short term thinking of upper management imo. The in game experience is often horrid. The worst, for me, is the Gruber Law t-shirts after a 3-point basket, which often results in casual fans yelling and screaming for a t-shirt to be tossed their way while the opposing team has the ball, making it sound like the Bucks fans are encouraging the road team. It would be nice to align sponsorships with support/encouragement for the Bucks. Instead, fans are trained to ignore play on the court and focus on the other in game nonsense. But with all that we have to tolerate, that 50 point game what's his name had against Phoenix a couple of years ago was kind of worth it.

[Thunder Muscle]

I am a STH so I don't have to figure out tickets for every single game, especially the post season. I go to most games, selling a few that I can't make. Sometimes it is a bit overwhelming - three games in a week is a bit much driving from the Chicago suburbs - but I enjoy the season more than not. Games are a chance to hang with adult sons, but when they can't make it my GF enjoys the games. Hey, I endured 25 years of really bad basketball, so this era is wonderful. All because of a lucky 15th first round pick in June of 2013. In many ways I liked Bradley Center more than Fiserv. Fiserv is obviously a better building, but the extra food options are lost on me. The Bucks marketing efforts are brutal. It feels like you have to baby sit the sales staff making inane contacts to satisfy their higher ups. STHs are viewed as contacts to be mined, more than loyal customers to be appreciated. Reveals the narrow short term thinking of upper management imo. The in game experience is often horrid. The worst, for me, is the Gruber Law t-shirts after a 3-point basket, which often results in casual fans yelling and screaming for a t-shirt to be tossed their way while the opposing team has the ball, making it sound like the Bucks fans are encouraging the road team. It would be nice to align sponsorships with support/encouragement for the Bucks. Instead, fans are trained to ignore play on the court and focus on the other in game nonsense. But with all that we have to tolerate, that 50 point game what's his name had against Phoenix a couple of years ago was kind of worth it.

Hard to disagree with alot if this.

I don’t even know who my rep is anymore. I got an email saying it was going to change to 2 people and think I had a voice mail with an intro, but still no idea who to contact.

Anybody been offered 3-5 year contracted ticket deals? I have not, but have seen a couple people on Facebook ask about if worth it. With Giannis contract up in like 2 years, my assumption is they will want to lock people in if at all possible in case he leaves (which I think he does). But I know they did that with me for the arena where I locked in for BC years for 1 or 2 seasons and then year 1 in Fiserv was essentially same price. Then year 2 of Fiserv it started going up and Year 3 I got rocked with a massive increase. But was curious as assume renewal stuff will be out soon.

[Thunder Muscle]

^ I lied, found an email from last week and my tickets actually went DOWN almost 11%. I was not expecting that. And there are 3 and 5 year deals out there. Basically if do a 3 year you won’t ever get more than an 8% yearly increase, 5 year is no more than 6%. So yeah, they are banking on Giannis contract and getting some committals for 24-25 and beyond. I think I will pass on that, but the decrease is nice.

[old skool]

This week's email on season ticket renewal mentions that they have adjusted prices for next season based on a multi-point evaluation of price/demand/utilization etc. My seats will be 2% cheaper in 2023-24, after an 18% increase this season. Always helpful for them to make a sale 9 months before the first game . I feel like low hanging fruit.

The complimentary League Pass benefit remains in effect.

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[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Yeah, mine went down. My gut says to cancel and just buy what I need, but will probably stay another year. My single ticket was my 3rd highest cash outflow after daycare and mortgage in 2022 (I guess if you aggregate the grocery bill, it would be higher). Really stupid to pay that much money for a sports game but I'm trying not to take Giannis for granted. Hopefully it pays off with a finals run.