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Post#641 » by skbucks1985 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:04 pm

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skbucks1985 wrote:Like I said, not all crimes get prosecuted and when it comes to white collar crime specifically what gets prosecuted tends to be about the wealth of the victims which often means that the people who screw over middle and lower class people are much more likely to get away with it.

If you're playing in the those types of games, you're involved in some shady stuff and I don't give a damn if you get cheated.

There's the obvious joke that if you're betting overs on Terry Rozier... this is the one that if what is alleged turns out to be true is the one that I think is most justified to be prosecuted and don't really have a problem with doing so.

There's a lot of levels to this story though with the mob and millions of illegal betting. I don't think it is the best use of resources and seems like the FBI trying to get a big PR win but could see these games and crimes escalating and being part of a bigger illegal network with dangerous people.

That said with most of this sports betting stuff you have to know going in that a player can easily be bought and that's part of the risk premium of betting. It's up there the NBA and Gambling sites to keep the appearance of risk to be low with strict controls. Taxpayers shouldn't be paying for those controls.


When you're playing in these high stakes poker games that probably have 6 figure minimums, there will be organized crime involvement. So when I heard about the mob, it didn't mean anything to me and I would've been shocked if there was no mob involvement.

I agree with your everything else you said.
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Post#642 » by DingleJerry » Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:15 pm

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DingleJerry wrote:One thing to note: to my knowledge its not illegal for me to half ass a basketball game so my friends win a bet


That certainly seems like fraud to me, although hard to prove unless there's a clear pattern.


Fair and could be argued. Take out the collusion part and its for sure not. But if I did it amongst friends as a hustle its not really illegal or a poker or pool type player hustling/lying/intentionally losing etc is a known part of the game/gambling. Certainly a guy you wouldn't want to play with again though and to kick out of the game
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Post#644 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:25 pm

If this whole thing brings down Silver AND the Klutch/Lebron cartel? Don't tease me like this....
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Post#645 » by Matches Malone » Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:27 pm

That 2024 draft continues to be a nightmare. So many of us wanted Ajay, even in round one but instead we got the other AJ and Tyler Smith.

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Post#646 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:32 pm

Warriors on a back to back tonight and start the season with 3 in 4 nights. I guess earlier in the season is better but these guys aren't in full game shape yet.
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Post#647 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:47 pm

Prime has their first NBA games tonight. Celtics Sixers with Ian Eagle and Stan Van Gundy (I know many don't like SVG but I do). Wolves/Lakers the second game. Not sure who's doing that one, I assume Kevin Harlan.
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Post#648 » by emunney » Fri Oct 24, 2025 5:54 pm

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Post#649 » by DingleJerry » Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:00 pm

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Post#650 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 6:13 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If this whole thing brings down Silver AND the Klutch/Lebron cartel? Don't tease me like this....


The wagons are circling with the NBA media. Listened to Windy’s pod this morning and while he covered the topic, he didn’t repeat what he said yesterday. Namely that the league forced Rozier into a fake injury in lieu of a suspension.
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Post#651 » by bucksfansince88 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:03 pm

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Post#652 » by soxperry » Fri Oct 24, 2025 7:54 pm

not just Gordon, but look at a guy like Pascal Siakam. He is absolutely thriving on a much better team in a role that is better suited for his strengths.

we need to try and identify the next version of that. or just go trade for Derrick White somehow.
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Post#653 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:35 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:If this whole thing brings down Silver AND the Klutch/Lebron cartel? Don't tease me like this....


The wagons are circling with the NBA media. Listened to Windy’s pod this morning and while he covered the topic, he didn’t repeat what he said yesterday. Namely that the league forced Rozier into a fake injury in lieu of a suspension.

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The NBA told Front Office Sports that any gambling investigation was unrelated to Rozier missing Charlotte’s final eight games of the 2022–23 season.

“Any assertion that the NBA had anything to do with Terry Rozier not playing games following his departure from the game on March 23, 2023, is categorically false,” NBA spokesperson Mike Bass said. “Per team doctors, Rozier had a real foot injury confirmed with an MRI.”


On Friday morning, Windhorst appeared to walk back some of his reporting during an appearance on ESPN’s Get Up. He called the idea that the NBA pulled Rozier from games a “conspiracy theory.”

“I’ve seen things go around about conspiracy theory about how Rozier was held out of games because the NBA was doing stuff. Unfortunately, it’s just that the NBA ain’t the feds. And that is definitely something to worry about and to be concerned about as gambling is more a part of our lives,” Windhorst said.


“On Eisen, I said the NBA would have to explain at some point what happened that allowed Rozier to keep playing, never did I say or imply there was a conspiracy. I subsequently had that conversation with the league about their process. On TV this morning, I reported the league’s explanation for why they weren’t able to corroborate the charges against Rozier and allowed him to play.

“In conjunction, I also questioned why there was a belief there was a conspiracy. The league investigated Rozier, which was public, and then decided to allow him to continue to play, which was public. It is not a good look for the NBA that he was allowed to play but I think that underscores their limited investigative power not a conspiracy, which implies something wholly different.”
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Post#654 » by humanrefutation » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:47 pm

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Post#656 » by blazza18 » Yesterday 12:41 am

The picture quality for these prime games are pretty good (not quite to the apple tv mlb level imo). But this big ass score bug is not good at all.
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Post#657 » by Jez2983 » Yesterday 1:16 am

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Jez2983 wrote:Alright PP, time to toss whatever rumours you'd heard about Jordan's gambling in his Bulls days onto the board.

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You guys know em all.

The real story is how David Stern could get wind of problems and solve them behind the scenes before law enforcement stepped in.

Adam Silver - not so much.

Then again Stern never had a Pablo Torre to deal with.


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Post#658 » by StickeeFingaz » Yesterday 1:24 am

blazza18 wrote:The picture quality for these prime games are pretty good (not quite to the apple tv mlb level imo). But this big ass score bug is not good at all.


The picture quality is definitely the best of any broadcast. Why the other networks don’t do it, I have no idea. I guess because they don’t need to.

It looks incredible.
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Post#659 » by MickeyDavis » Yesterday 1:26 am

blazza18 wrote:The picture quality for these prime games are pretty good (not quite to the apple tv mlb level imo). But this big ass score bug is not good at all.

Very good pic quality
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