Stotts Steps Down

[crkone]

I think the weirdest thing for me is that so many people still have this fundamental misunderstanding about how much input/responsibility an offensive assistant has. Some of the arguments put forth makes it seem like a lot of people essentially thought Stotts was gonna operate as the play-caller (aka basically the de-facto head coach on offense), and that plus their initial misgivings about Griffin resulted in giving his departure this out-sized impact on the team's championship fortunes. I'd argue if that's what you believe, then ironically you're vindicating AG because that situation was always going to be extremely untenable...

It appears Stotts had the same thought too

[Daver]

If it was anyone else not named stotts this would of been a 4 page thread no one woukd of cared.He was a fu.. asst coach who disrespected his boss in front of the players n coaches unacceptable surprised grif didnt tell him to leave right then n their.Assts dont win chips

Which is legitimately shocking to me. Had no idea Terry freaking Stotts had such a cult following.

1.) I agree with 50% of the premise. He disrespected his boss. We have no proof that AG didn't pull him in private multiple times.
Eventually as your boss if I try to handle a situation privately and you continue to try to be the head man in charge you will be put in your place.

2.) I don't think if it was ANYONE but Stotts this would be 4 pages. If it was anyone who was a head coach for years and joined our inexperienced head coach (yes I know he is extremely experienced as an assistant) then left abruptly that would be at least half of what it is now. Throw in the fact that he used to coach in Milwaukee, also coached Dame, and was an excellent assistant coach (but horrible, HORRIBLE head coach) makes it 30+ pages.

Ok fair enough will agree with that but i personally think grif is being treated very badly by the fans on this board you would think stotts was the HC with how maby are degrnding a AC over our HC.They akready have him failing and are already calling him out n ges 0-0 .With or w/o stotts the O struggles its 100% AGs fault.Stotts says FU to AG in practice by disrespecting AG n again its AGs fault

[Shaffty]

Woke up in a cold sweat about 30 minute before my alarm was set to go off this morning, panicked that there are no professional coaches left on the Bucks' staff that know a single thing about offense. Without Stotts, how will a player as new to the team as Lillard even know which basket to shoot at?

did you see khris' answer when asked a question like this

[Daver]

I'm also really curious on the logistics of the offense now. Do we still run the scheme Stotts spent all offseason & camp installing? Do we change it up last minute? Do we hire someone to come in and run a completely different offense?

Cant punty(sp) run a O someone pisted on this board yesterday that he ran a pretty good O in the past just curious

Yea I'm sure he can, obviously someone is going to run the offense. But I guess my question at this point is more logistical and something we won't see until the season gets going, but do they still run the offense Stotts has spent the offseason installing or scrap all that and change it up to something different? Prunty ran a different scheme in the past than Stotts did. Do they bring in someone else to put in a different scheme? I'm mostly over the disappointment of losing Stotts now, but I have logistical questions on where this goes

We dont know exactly how much scheme stotts actually put in n maybe punty will run the same acheme anyway hes been tbere hes seen the scheme in person.Punty isnt a idiot he knows we have dame n gisnnis n midds just might continue what stotts waa doing

[BucksRule18]

I hate the fact that we have to deal with so much unnecessary drama at this point. On one hand you have Stotts who's probably not ready to be an assistant coach, especially to a first time head coach. On the other hand, you have a head coach calling for a huddle of mature coaches to basically do what exactly?! If I was a coach, I wouldn't want the players seeing me get lectured (or even pumped up) in front of everyone like I was lacking in my job. This should have been done behind closed doors to avoid a situation like this. Keep the huddles to the players only. Honestly, I see more coaches resigning if it turns out AG has the habit of lecturing his staff in front of players to show his authority.

[Siefer]

The first 15 minutes of the Mismatch is a good listen and has a few more details. It sounds like multiple things are probably true here. It was an arranged relationship that wasn't working, and that's not anyone's fault in particular. Stotts also struggled to acclimate to being an assistant. Griffin might also be an ****.

[crkone]

I hate the fact that we have to deal with so much unnecessary drama at this point. On one hand you have Stotts who's probably not ready to be an assistant coach, especially to a first time head coach. On the other hand, you have a head coach calling for a huddle of mature coaches to basically do what exactly?! If I was a coach, I wouldn't want the players seeing me get lectured (or even pumped up) in front of everyone like I was lacking in my job. This should have been done behind closed doors to avoid a situation like this. Keep the huddles to the players only. Honestly, I see more coaches resigning if it turns out AG has the habit of lecturing his staff in front of players to show his authority.

I've had huddles for like 15 years in lab and office jobs around huddle boards. They're short meetings to review and go over what's next.

[LISTEN2JAZZ]

None of this matters, we got Giannis and Dame and are winning the trophy this year.

[Daver]

I hate the fact that we have to deal with so much unnecessary drama at this point. On one hand you have Stotts who's probably not ready to be an assistant coach, especially to a first time head coach. On the other hand, you have a head coach calling for a huddle of mature coaches to basically do what exactly?! If I was a coach, I wouldn't want the players seeing me get lectured (or even pumped up) in front of everyone like I was lacking in my job. This should have been done behind closed doors to avoid a situation like this. Keep the huddles to the players only. Honestly, I see more coaches resigning if it turns out AG has the habit of lecturing his staff in front of players to show his authority.

What makes you think he was going to lecture his asst cosches wth where you coming up with that.It could of been a discussing on practice i read he did that after every practice.Amazing how quickly you put the blame on AG wtf you have no idea what that so called was for all the other assts listened n stayed

[Daver]

None of this matters, we got Giannis and Dame and are winning the trophy this year.

God i hope so and hope we get the 1 seed which i think this year will be extra important seeing how good the Cs are going to be and they look really good already

[GoldenAntlers]

Pretty sure this is a blessing that it happened before the season started. I'm not saying it's a great look, but some MAJOR assumptions are being thrown around like facts right now.

[jimmybones]

Not a good look for somebody with a PhD in “leadership”

Maybe it’s actually the opposite.

Yeah, I guess I find it odd how many people are willing to dunk on Griffin for "raising his voice" (in context of a sports practice) as the boss and are equally willing to give a total pass to the guy not listening to his boss.

[PG Graveyard]

Griffin might also be an ****.

Don’t mind this at all. Hopefully he has some Ime Udoka qualities as a bball coach. This team needs a kick in the ass from time to time. I hope he also works the officials like Ime. Complaining works.

[Ron Swanson]

Griffin might also be an ****.

Don’t mind this at all. Hopefully he has some Ime Udoka qualities as a bball coach. This team needs a kick in the ass from time to time. I hope he also works the officials like Ime. Complaining works.

Well, let's all hope he doesn't have one very specific Ime Udoka quality.

[Dick Tate]

As someone who took "leadership" classes in college one of the first things you learn is to handle your stuff in private when possible, not publicly

This is in underground studies. In PhD studies you learn that you should yell in public

The "Figurehead Leadership" course was an elective.

[Daver]

Not a good look for somebody with a PhD in “leadership”

Maybe it’s actually the opposite.

Yeah, I guess I find it odd how many people are willing to dunk on Griffin for "raising his voice" (in context of a sports practice) as the boss and are equally willing to give a total pass to the guy not listening to his boss.

Thats because most of this board didnt want grif at all as a HC and will find everything they can(making beas the starting 2 and this incident) to blame him say hes going to fail etc

[BucksStatsGuy]

I think there is a major front office component missing from this story. We know that Stotts was a front office "pick", but that's about it. I really wonder what may have been promised to him, or potentially what the discussion/agreement was, because it almost seems as if it was that he'd be more than your average assistant coach, hence Stotts acting the way he did. And this incident I think reveals some insecurity/inexperience from Griffin (probably a reason that literally no other team has hired him as a HC in the past 5 years, which is frankly shocking that he hasn't gotten hired with that many attempts at the plate).

Regardless, there's no one to blame but ourselves here. It technically started with Giannis wanting Griffin, and it seems like the FO did not want that, but this situation was entirely created in house. Stotts isn't blameless, and maybe was testing the waters. But vet coaches are part of "younger" coach's staffs all the time. And Stotts isn't a dummy given how long he's been in the league. There's a reason these incidents happen, and usually it comes from bad communication about expectation of roles.

[Neuromancer56]

I think what the Bucks can't do is bring in another highly experienced former head coach and expect them to work well as Griff's assistant. It's going to need to be someone who is willing to do what Griff tells him to do. As far as whether or not Griff is a lousy or great HC the only way we're going to find that out is based on the results this season. He may have been completely justified at yelling at Stotts. He may not have. It depends on surrounding events to that situation.

[Dick Tate]

None of this matters, we got Giannis and Dame and are winning the trophy this year.

It's just a shame Buddy Ryan won't be around to see it.

[Dick Tate]

Probably best to let Giannis pick a former player for top assistant so he'll be comfortable with the interim coach after AG is fired.