Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

[DutchManDanFan]

The Bucks will not tank in 14/15. They'll finish somewhere in the middle (7-10) in the East. And that's fine. The Bucks need a top 10 PG in 15/16 or 16/17. You can't count on drafts for that.
Trading the 2015 pick is the way to go. At this moment that pick has the most value, because the Bucks just had the worst record.

What do you want to trade the pick for? Part of a Bledsoe S&T? It seems to be a common perception here that we'll end up around where you're suggesting, but outside of Philly who's honestly a lock to finish with a worse record than us? If everything goes perfectly I could see us ending up in the late lottery but honestly I think we have as good a chance as anyone to end up with another top 5 pick.

Another top 5 pick, or more realistic: 4 to 10 pick in 2015 is useless for the Bucks for the 15/16 and 16/17 seasons, because it won't be a top 10 PG. Miami was able to win it all without a good PG, but for any other team a great PG (with experience) is needed to compete.
The Bucks can wait a year to get the PG they need in Jabari's 2nd or 3rd year (3rd/4th year of Giannis). But if there's a chance to get Bledsoe this year, why waste a chance.
Maybe a 3 way deal with Kevin Love going to Phoenix and the 2015 1st picks of Suns and Bucks (unprotected) to Minny? The Suns will be a real option for LeBron then. Minny probably wants more, but will they get better offers? Maybe the Suns can add one of the Morris twins?

[DutchManDanFan]

Bledsoe (S&T) --> Bucks
Love --> Suns
Morris (1x), Bucks 1st & Suns 1st (both 2015 unprotected) --> Wolves

Realistic? More needed for Minny?

[coolhandluke121]

Bledsoe (S&T) --> Bucks
Love --> Suns
Morris (1x), Bucks 1st & Suns 1st (both 2015 unprotected) --> Wolves

Realistic? More needed for Minny?

In terms of talent, Minny needs more. But they don't have much leverage.

[bucksbrewers3]

The Bucks will not tank in 14/15. They'll finish somewhere in the middle (7-10) in the East. And that's fine. The Bucks need a top 10 PG in 15/16 or 16/17. You can't count on drafts for that.
Trading the 2015 pick is the way to go. At this moment that pick has the most value, because the Bucks just had the worst record.

What do you want to trade the pick for? Part of a Bledsoe S&T? It seems to be a common perception here that we'll end up around where you're suggesting, but outside of Philly who's honestly a lock to finish with a worse record than us? If everything goes perfectly I could see us ending up in the late lottery but honestly I think we have as good a chance as anyone to end up with another top 5 pick.

Another top 5 pick, or more realistic: 4 to 10 pick in 2015 is useless for the Bucks for the 15/16 and 16/17 seasons, because it won't be a top 10 PG. Miami was able to win it all without a good PG, but for any other team a great PG (with experience) is needed to compete.
The Bucks can wait a year to get the PG they need in Jabari's 2nd or 3rd year (3rd/4th year of Giannis). But if there's a chance to get Bledsoe this year, why waste a chance.
Maybe a 3 way deal with Kevin Love going to Phoenix and the 2015 1st picks of Suns and Bucks (unprotected) to Minny? The Suns will be a real option for LeBron then. Minny probably wants more, but will they get better offers? Maybe the Suns can add one of the Morris twins?

so are you suggesting that jabari is lebron and giannis is wade?

edit: NVM i completely missed the every other team part with the PG. smh

[bucksbrewers3]

I thought a couple years ago everyone was so in love with Bledsoe and thought he was a multiple all star PG and now that the bucks are linked to him offering a contract or potentially offering a contract all the negative parts of his game that were there before but were overlooked are now starting to pop up. Is it one of those things where people are in love with what they know they cant have but now that there might be a shot everyone is starting to pick apart his game?

[Bucks_MacGyver]

I thought a couple years ago everyone was so in love with Bledsoe and thought he was a multiple all star PG and now that the bucks are linked to him offering a contract or potentially offering a contract all the negative parts of his game that were there before but were overlooked are now starting to pop up. Is it one of those things where people are in love with what they know they cant have but now that there might be a shot everyone is starting to pick apart his game?

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[engelmartin]

Something will be going down soon. Still think we're a SG away from making a real splash. Does anyone have that much confidence in Middleton at that spot?

[Ill-yasova]

I thought a couple years ago everyone was so in love with Bledsoe and thought he was a multiple all star PG and now that the bucks are linked to him offering a contract or potentially offering a contract all the negative parts of his game that were there before but were overlooked are now starting to pop up. Is it one of those things where people are in love with what they know they cant have but now that there might be a shot everyone is starting to pick apart his game?

I don't think there are a ton of people on here criticizing his game. I think the bigger issue is whether he is worth a max contract, and if we should be paying a max contract to anyone right now while Parker and Giannis are still a couple of years from realizing their full impact.

[WRau1]

I do, Middleton is a solid defender that can knock down open shots. I wouldn't mind upgrading if the right deal came along but I think Middleton is a very good fit in our current projected lineup.

[zmanishere11]

Forget these guys - the deal we need to get involved with is with CLE for Jarret Jack.

CLE needs to clear cap space for Lebron's max deal - Jack has 2 years at 6.3 mil left (plus a team option for a 3rd).

I'd ask for the 1st round pick MIA still owes CLE - it's top 10 protected the next 2 years, Z E R O protection in 2017. If the Heat blow up like it looks like they will - that's a top 10 pick, probably better.

Get it done Hamdick.

[LUKE23]

To say Sanders impact is overstated is crazy. Sanders of last year? Sure. Sanders at peak performance? No way. We win less than 30 games in 2012-13 without him. When he's right he's arguably the best paint defender in basketball and this is backed by a lot of advanced metrics.

Now, maybe he doesn't get it back, and last year is what we see moving forward. I have no idea why that would be assumed though.

[Newz]

To say Sanders impact is overstated is crazy. Sanders of last year? Sure. Sanders at peak performance? No way. We win less than 30 games in 2012-13 without him. When he's right he's arguably the best paint defender in basketball and this is backed by a lot of advanced metrics.

Now, maybe he doesn't get it back, and last year is what we see moving forward. I have no idea why that would be assumed though.

To be fair he has only done that for one season though.

[LUKE23]

True, but it was while he was in his developmental stage. Last year was an injury riddled mess. I just don't think you can "fake" that kind of defense. You either have the ability to play at that level, or you don't. For him, it will just come down to focus and not ability.

[skones]

To say Sanders impact is overstated is crazy. Sanders of last year? Sure. Sanders at peak performance? No way. We win less than 30 games in 2012-13 without him. When he's right he's arguably the best paint defender in basketball and this is backed by a lot of advanced metrics.

Now, maybe he doesn't get it back, and last year is what we see moving forward. I have no idea why that would be assumed though.

How is it crazy saying his impact is overstated when you give him 8 games (STILL on the high end IMO and at only one season of play), and some here are making jumps as large as 15-25 games between he and Parker as additions. Realistically, even the top rookies don't make anywhere close to that type of impact. You're basically assuming DRASTIC improvement from all of your young players.

[LUKE23]

Because last year and this year have basically no similarities. Different coach, different owners, added Parker, Giannis is in year 2, Sanders/Ersan have basically zero chance to be as bad as last year, etc. People are acting like we made no roster changes and Drew is back again, and we are going to tank the entire season after the first 25 games, and we are going to get nothing out of Sanders and Ersan.

Why anyone would bring up our win total last year with how much has changed is beyond me.

[Badgerlander]

To be fair our "defensive" scheme was laughable last year, not to mention some of the starting lineups that were trotted out there in front of Larry. Sanders was literally the only guy playing any semblance of D on the floor early on and usually got in foul trouble because guys were driving the lane at will.

[Nycballa2k]

Sanders is a turd and Giannis has done nothing and shown nothing. Good prospect that is it. He is unknown on what he will do in the NBA. Giannis is Bucks fans overrated player of the year or two. Where every year everyone overrates and over values a player on the Bucks and claims them untradable.

Before Giannis it was Henson. Everyone would say I wouldn't trade Henson for a top 5 pick in the draft. Henson is a valuable untradable player. Even though Henson has done nothing in the NBA.

Giannis was a good pick for the middle of the first round will he work we'll see.

Sanders was literally the best post defender in the NBA the season before last get out of here with that nonsense.

And there is legit reason to be excited for Giannis. near 7 footers with his athleticism, ball handling and court vision don't grow on trees

Sorry I don't put stock into players/thugs. And Giannis went around #15 in the draft for a reason. I hope Giannis develops into a fine player but don't act like all prospects are locks. Allot has to happen in his development throughout many years to turn into the player he is projected to be.

Henson got the same treatment when he was drafted. O we found a gem in the draft. Henson is going to be a beast. What! Henson did nothing in year one? O wait to year two he will bust out. Maybe in year three?

Prospects are prospects for a reason.

I don't put stock into thugs, I put stock into game changing post defenders who were by far the best at it their last healthy season with the team

[coolhandluke121]

I know it's tempting to want Bledsoe and think we're close, but that's the same thing we've done so many times over the years - think we're closer than we really are and justify a move for immediate help when it would probably be more prudent to wait. We're fans and we tend to rationalize by saying "so-and-so will get healthy, this other guy was just in a slump last year, these two young guys will get a lot better... so let's go sign _______ _________ because we could be a 50-win team with him."

First off, if every little thing has to go right for you to be a 50-win team, then you're better off tanking. Secondly, those guys who have nagging injuries and slumps tend to be prone to future nagging injuries and slumps. Great teams are build around stars with a knack for producing night in and night out and a gift for staying healthy. Thirdly, great teams win 50 games when things go wrong. Their supporting casts are better than the best team the Bucks have had since FTD.

I'd accept Bledsoe as an asset grab as long as they didn't give up much. Would be great if they could just offer the max and Phoenix doesn't match. But in the long run, I know I'll be happier tanking. I don't know if they can do that if Sanders and Ersan are healthy all year though. It's a really tough call.

[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

Assuming we don't give up a future first to get Bledsoe, it's really a no-brainer and everyone should be on board. If you have to give up a 1st that is when I really start thinking long and hard about passing. Between the 1st, a large contract, and a small sample size that includes a major injury, the risk is probably too high in my opinion. Simply acquiring Bledsoe is not anti-tank or a "win-now" move though. It is simply acquiring another very good young asset.

[skones]

Assuming we don't give up a future first to get Bledsoe, it's really a no-brainer and everyone should be on board. If you have to give up a 1st that is when I really start thinking long and hard about passing. Between the 1st, a large contract, and a small sample size that includes a major injury, the risk is probably too high in my opinion. Simply acquiring Bledsoe is not anti-tank or a "win-now" move though. It is simply acquiring another very good young asset.

But how valuable is that asset on a contract he doesn't deserve and likely never will?