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Post#681 » by sdn40 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:01 am

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sdn40 wrote:Maybe it's not Milwaukee, Giannis, or Bledsoe. Maybe the problem lies with Brogdon. Maybe he's a stuck up prick. Or maybe it's nothing at all. The fact is, fans like to think they know about these guys, but they really don't. We may never find out.
I find his segregation comment hilarious and stupid, but best to not go there.


You did, and it confirms a lot.


That my opinion is less valuable than Brogdon's ?
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Post#682 » by th87 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:02 am

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sdn40 wrote:Maybe it's not Milwaukee, Giannis, or Bledsoe. Maybe the problem lies with Brogdon. Maybe he's a stuck up prick. Or maybe it's nothing at all. The fact is, fans like to think they know about these guys, but they really don't. We may never find out.
I find his segregation comment hilarious and stupid, but best to not go there.


You did, and it confirms a lot.


That my opinion is less valuable than Brogdon's ?


And less informed.
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Post#683 » by sdn40 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:05 am

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sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
You did, and it confirms a lot.


That my opinion is less valuable than Brogdon's ?


And less informed.


Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then
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Post#684 » by Chuck Diesel » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:06 am

I stopped trying to read into these guy’s off court personalities/life relationships to one another after Damir Markota was brought in solely to act as a “buddy” for a seemingly depressed Andrew Bogut. For anyone trying to surmise whether Brogdon had issues with Bledsoe or Giannis or whoever, he also seemed fairly tight with Donte, DJ and Pat. None of that **** means anything anyway. I’m sure we all know people who absolutely hate one another but would never miss “liking” each other’s instagram posts and ****. Every locker room dynamic has cliques and there’s no way for us to know anything on a deeper level than that.
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Post#685 » by WRau1 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:11 am

I had a one on one interaction with Brogdon last year and he was a complete dick. Out of all the Bucks (on this current squad) that I have met, and I have met a bunch, Wilson is surprisingly the most fun. He's a good dude.
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Post#686 » by th87 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:15 am

sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
That my opinion is less valuable than Brogdon's ?


And less informed.


Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then


This is in reference to the last sentence of your original post.
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Post#687 » by thonnisbeastley » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:26 am

sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
That my opinion is less valuable than Brogdon's ?


And less informed.


Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then

I think he's referring to the fact that you said it's best not to go there, while still calling his comment hilarious and stupid.
Or perhaps he was referring to the fact that you're less informed about his comment, considering it's widely known that Milwaukee is one of if not the most segregated cities in the country.
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Post#688 » by emunney » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:28 am

Pacers actually have one of our seconds (2021). Bet that's one of them.
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Post#689 » by TroyD92 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:31 am

sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
That my opinion is less valuable than Brogdon's ?


And less informed.


Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then


Ignoring Brogdon, if you don’t think his comments about Milwaukee’s segregation are true then I don’t even know where to begin. To be fair though, every major city is segregated in form or another.
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Post#690 » by sdn40 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:40 am

thonnisbeastley wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
And less informed.


Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then

I think he's referring to the fact that you said it's best not to go there, while still calling his comment hilarious and stupid.
Or perhaps he was referring to the fact that you're less informed about his comment, considering it's widely known that Milwaukee is one of if not the most segregated cities in the country.


Yeah - I get it. I went there and wouldn't go there. But if I made blanket statements about Atlanta without ever going there I'd be hilarious and stupid too. Segregation is a highly charged word and most likely a dead end conversation or argument. If Malcom was told he couldn't live in certain parts of Milwaukee, and felt threatened by it, then of course I think it's wrong. I doubt that happened. If he was told he couldn't afford rent or a house due to his income / rent ratio, that's not segregation, that's life.
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Post#691 » by bucksfansince88 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:43 am

TroyD92 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
And less informed.


Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then


Ignoring Brogdon, if you don’t think his comments about Milwaukee’s segregation are true then I don’t even know where to begin. To be fair though, every major city is segregated in form or another.


It’s true Milwaukee is indeed an extremely segregated city but it’s not the northern home of the Klan like Indiana is. I wish Malcolm all the best!
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Post#692 » by th87 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:45 am

sdn40 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then

I think he's referring to the fact that you said it's best not to go there, while still calling his comment hilarious and stupid.
Or perhaps he was referring to the fact that you're less informed about his comment, considering it's widely known that Milwaukee is one of if not the most segregated cities in the country.


Yeah - I get it. I went there and wouldn't go there. But if I made blanket statements about Atlanta without ever going there I'd be hilarious and stupid too. Segregation is a highly charged word and most likely a dead end conversation or argument. If Malcom was told he couldn't live in certain parts of Milwaukee, and felt threatened by it, then of course I think it's wrong. I doubt that happened.


There have been numerous studies that consider Milwaukee number 1 in segregation. A person with public policy knowledge who also would be directly affected would certainly be aware of this.
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Post#693 » by htr » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:46 am

The henson and sterling brown thing both haooened when brogdon was here. And cnn did a sunday show talking about milwaukee as the most segregated city in the country like a month ago which cant help
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Post#694 » by sdn40 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:48 am

th87 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:I think he's referring to the fact that you said it's best not to go there, while still calling his comment hilarious and stupid.
Or perhaps he was referring to the fact that you're less informed about his comment, considering it's widely known that Milwaukee is one of if not the most segregated cities in the country.


Yeah - I get it. I went there and wouldn't go there. But if I made blanket statements about Atlanta without ever going there I'd be hilarious and stupid too. Segregation is a highly charged word and most likely a dead end conversation or argument. If Malcom was told he couldn't live in certain parts of Milwaukee, and felt threatened by it, then of course I think it's wrong. I doubt that happened.


There have been numerous studies that consider Milwaukee number 1 in segregation. A person with public policy knowledge who also would be directly affected would certainly be aware of this.


I'm quite aware of the studies. Again, it's all about how the term segregation is defined.
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Post#695 » by thonnisbeastley » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:51 am

sdn40 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
Less informed than "I heard this" and "I heard that." Alrighty then

I think he's referring to the fact that you said it's best not to go there, while still calling his comment hilarious and stupid.
Or perhaps he was referring to the fact that you're less informed about his comment, considering it's widely known that Milwaukee is one of if not the most segregated cities in the country.


Yeah - I get it. I went there and wouldn't go there. But if I made blanket statements about Atlanta without ever going there I'd be hilarious and stupid too. Segregation is a highly charged word and most likely a dead end conversation or argument. If Malcom was told he couldn't live in certain parts of Milwaukee, and felt threatened by it, then of course I think it's wrong. I doubt that happened.

Yeah, except Malcolm lived in Milwaukee for multiple years before making that comment. It's hardly a blanket statement. The city is very obviously segregated in terms of living situations and suburbs. If you disagree with that sentiment and consider it an ill informed blanket statement, then you are in fact the ill informed on this topic.
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Post#696 » by sdn40 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 5:55 am

thonnisbeastley wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:I think he's referring to the fact that you said it's best not to go there, while still calling his comment hilarious and stupid.
Or perhaps he was referring to the fact that you're less informed about his comment, considering it's widely known that Milwaukee is one of if not the most segregated cities in the country.


Yeah - I get it. I went there and wouldn't go there. But if I made blanket statements about Atlanta without ever going there I'd be hilarious and stupid too. Segregation is a highly charged word and most likely a dead end conversation or argument. If Malcom was told he couldn't live in certain parts of Milwaukee, and felt threatened by it, then of course I think it's wrong. I doubt that happened.

Yeah, except Malcolm lived in Milwaukee for multiple years before making that comment. It's hardly a blanket statement. The city is very obviously segregated in terms of living situations and suburbs. If you disagree with that sentiment and consider it an ill informed blanket statement, then you are in fact the ill informed on this topic.


“Not at all. Before I came to Milwaukee I’d heard the city was the most segregated in the country. I’d heard it was racist."
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Post#697 » by th87 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 6:05 am

sdn40 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
Yeah - I get it. I went there and wouldn't go there. But if I made blanket statements about Atlanta without ever going there I'd be hilarious and stupid too. Segregation is a highly charged word and most likely a dead end conversation or argument. If Malcom was told he couldn't live in certain parts of Milwaukee, and felt threatened by it, then of course I think it's wrong. I doubt that happened.

Yeah, except Malcolm lived in Milwaukee for multiple years before making that comment. It's hardly a blanket statement. The city is very obviously segregated in terms of living situations and suburbs. If you disagree with that sentiment and consider it an ill informed blanket statement, then you are in fact the ill informed on this topic.


“Not at all. Before I came to Milwaukee I’d heard the city was the most segregated in the country. I’d heard it was racist."


Before he came to Milwaukee, he "heard" the studies and likely heard about the cop shootings. What about his statement is inaccurate in the least?
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Post#698 » by sdn40 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 6:11 am

th87 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:Yeah, except Malcolm lived in Milwaukee for multiple years before making that comment. It's hardly a blanket statement. The city is very obviously segregated in terms of living situations and suburbs. If you disagree with that sentiment and consider it an ill informed blanket statement, then you are in fact the ill informed on this topic.


“Not at all. Before I came to Milwaukee I’d heard the city was the most segregated in the country. I’d heard it was racist."


Before he came to Milwaukee, he "heard" the studies and likely heard about the cop shootings. What about his statement is inaccurate in the least?


Never said it was or wasn't inaccurate. Again, it all comes back to the definition of segregation.

The enforced separation of different racial groups in a country, community, or establishment.
Is Milwaukee segregated by that definition ?
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Post#699 » by soxperry » Tue Jul 2, 2019 6:31 am

sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
“Not at all. Before I came to Milwaukee I’d heard the city was the most segregated in the country. I’d heard it was racist."


Before he came to Milwaukee, he "heard" the studies and likely heard about the cop shootings. What about his statement is inaccurate in the least?


Never said it was or wasn't inaccurate. Again, it all comes back to the definition of segregation.

The enforced separation of different racial groups in a country, community, or establishment.
Is Milwaukee segregated by that definition ?


You're either being disingenuous or just not used to talking to intelligent people. Either way its not a great look.
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Post#700 » by sdn40 » Tue Jul 2, 2019 6:40 am

soxperry wrote:
sdn40 wrote:
th87 wrote:
Before he came to Milwaukee, he "heard" the studies and likely heard about the cop shootings. What about his statement is inaccurate in the least?


Never said it was or wasn't inaccurate. Again, it all comes back to the definition of segregation.

The enforced separation of different racial groups in a country, community, or establishment.
Is Milwaukee segregated by that definition ?


You're either being disingenuous or just not used to talking to intelligent people. Either way its not a great look.


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