Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION

[ShootingtheJ]

What about something like this to land up Beal? Feels reasonable for all sides. Maybe a future 1st to the Warriors?

https://tradenba.com/trades/5R2I-sSYK

MKE out: Bled, Brook, 2020 1st (Ind)
MKE in: Beal

Orl out: Fornier, 2020 1st
Orl in: Bled

GldSt out: #2 pick, Wiggins
GldSt in: Brook, Fornier

Wash out: Beal
Was in: Wiggins, #2 pick, MKE 2020 1st, Orl 2020 1st

Spicy. I think you could even take Orlando's 1st out of this.

I'm guessing the Warriors take us out of this too, and just get Beal for themselves.

If Beal was available, which he isn't, the Wizards would get some pretty amazing offers.

[ShootingtheJ]

I think the best player Warriors can get for Wiggins, #2 is Khris

Assume that both Wiggins and #2 are used at follow up (probably different) trades

Is it fair value for you ?

In this scenario ... he have failed to acquire any player like CP3, LaVine with Bledsoe as the main piece, and we are stucked and can't upgrade our backcourt.

What follow up trades do you suggest ?

My follow up trade would be Wiggins, #2, and #24 for Middleton, but they'd turn it down.

[Profound23]

Middleton to Clippers, Bledsoe and parts to OKC, Paul George and Chris Paul to Milwaukee

[bdpecore]

Pick ups UFAs :
C Isaiah Hartenstein
PG Jerian Grant (GLeague Was - 5th in GLeague at 3P% 43.5 1.6/3.8)
Buy a 2nd or pickup undrafted Sam Merrill
MLE: Saric

The Warriors are stealing value in this deal. There’s no way you can rid yourself of Wiggins contract without having to attach something of significant value to make it neutral value let alone getting two players who have positive value on top.

[emunney]

Pick ups UFAs :
C Isaiah Hartenstein
PG Jerian Grant (GLeague Was - 5th in GLeague at 3P% 43.5 1.6/3.8)
Buy a 2nd or pickup undrafted Sam Merrill
MLE: Saric

-57 wins!



This is an aggressively, irredeemably bad trade for us.

ETA Just realized we give up 2 picks in this! I've never seen somebody on this board earnestly post a trade that would be worse for us. Am I in hell?

[Fotis St]

Pick ups UFAs :
C Isaiah Hartenstein
PG Jerian Grant (GLeague Was - 5th in GLeague at 3P% 43.5 1.6/3.8)
Buy a 2nd or pickup undrafted Sam Merrill
MLE: Saric

-57 wins!



This is an aggressively, irredeemably bad trade for us.

ETA Just realized we give up 2 picks in this! I've never seen somebody on this board earnestly post a trade that would be worse for us. Am I in hell?

-57 WINS is the proof why you shouldn't trust those stats

So according to this stupid win +/- calculator ...

LaVine
JJ Redick
Khris
Giannis
Kornet

Wins 25 Games (82-57) at the most

[RiotPunch]

MKE: Terry Rozier, Danny Green, #32, #56
LAL: Eric Bledsoe, Robin Lopez
CHA: Kyle Kuzma, George Hill, DJ Wilson

24 - Xavier Tillman
32 - Malachi Flynn
56 - Nate Hinton

Matthews opts in
Waive Ersan
MLE - Moe Harkless (or Jae Crowder) & Jevon Carter
Re-sign Connaughton (early bird)
Noah Vonleh vet min

Rozier / Carter / Flynn
DiVincenzo / Matthews / Connaughton
Middleton / Green / Hinton
Giannis / Harkless / Thanasis
Lopez / Tillman / Vonleh

[DingleJerry]

They just traded for one of his best friends in Russell and both those guys are locked up through at least 2023. Throw in that they just got the #1 pick and don't really have any bad contracts anymore, and I'm not really buying any reason why Towns would want out of Minnesota at this point.

It's the Timberwolves. Of course Towns wants out.

Yea I'd agree with the overall point that MN probably isn't' moving him now. However, I'd probably tweak Ron's point and say they just did that move bringin in his buddy. So why would MN do all that to try and keep him happy, then trade him right away. This seemed to be their swing to try and keep him.

[emunney]

Pick ups UFAs :
C Isaiah Hartenstein
PG Jerian Grant (GLeague Was - 5th in GLeague at 3P% 43.5 1.6/3.8)
Buy a 2nd or pickup undrafted Sam Merrill
MLE: Saric

-57 wins!



This is an aggressively, irredeemably bad trade for us.

ETA Just realized we give up 2 picks in this! I've never seen somebody on this board earnestly post a trade that would be worse for us. Am I in hell?

-57 WINS is the proof why you shouldn't trust those stats

So according to this stupid win +/- calculator ...

LaVine
JJ Redick
Khris
Giannis
Kornet

Wins 25 Games (82-57) at the most

Nooooo you've got us starting Kornet?!

[raferfenix]

Plenty of caveats from Wolfson about how he doesn’t think Towns is going anywhere soon.

But also I wonder if the organization gets sick of him and tries to maximize his trade value and bail

Yes Wolves traded for Russell so he can play buddy ball with KAT.

But they also must be frustrated watching Butler leading the Heat to such great effect.

And none of this is to say we could or would target Towns. If he hits the trade block that would shake up the broader marketplace though assuredly.

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[AussieBuck]

Does Wiggins and #2 even get you expirings?

[KidA24]

Pick ups UFAs :
C Isaiah Hartenstein
PG Jerian Grant (GLeague Was - 5th in GLeague at 3P% 43.5 1.6/3.8)
Buy a 2nd or pickup undrafted Sam Merrill
MLE: Saric

-57 wins!



This is an aggressively, irredeemably bad trade for us.

ETA Just realized we give up 2 picks in this! I've never seen somebody on this board earnestly post a trade that would be worse for us. Am I in hell?

-57 WINS is the proof why you shouldn't trust those stats

So according to this stupid win +/- calculator ...

LaVine
JJ Redick
Khris
Giannis
Kornet

Wins 25 Games (82-57) at the most

It's not just next year, the wins are summed and the draft picks have an expected win value.

[TingusP]

Mavs fan coming in peace.

Would the Bucks have any interest in Seth Curry for Ilyasova + 24? I don't think Dallas does this straight up, but it could be useful in some three team deals. Just curious to get your opinion as Seth seems like a decent fit with other strong defensive guards around him.

[RiotPunch]

Mavs fan coming in peace.

Would the Bucks have any interest in Seth Curry for Ilyasova + 24? I don't think Dallas does this straight up, but it could be useful in some three team deals. Just curious to get your opinion as Seth seems like a decent fit with other strong defensive guards around him.

Would prefer RoLo + Wilson + 24, but yeah I'd be down.

[DrWood]

Does Wiggins and #2 even get you expirings?

Maybe even a late lottery pick and a role player expiring.

[bdpecore]

Mavs fan coming in peace.

Would the Bucks have any interest in Seth Curry for Ilyasova + 24? I don't think Dallas does this straight up, but it could be useful in some three team deals. Just curious to get your opinion as Seth seems like a decent fit with other strong defensive guards around him.

I’d also make this trade. I get Riot Punch’s idea of sending out RoLo and Wilson since we can simply waive Eraan to clear more payroll but don’t see the fit In Dallas with Porzingis, Kleber, Bobsn and Powell already on their roster.

[Fotis St]

Nooooo you've got us starting Kornet?!

Well unfortunately my beloved Brook Lopez, fell off a cliff last season ... from nearly 37% 3P ... he dropped to 31% ... less than 1% more than Giannis shot the 3P. That is totally unacceptable and yes I would include him in a trade for backcourt upgrade.

I think Kornet can replace 90 % of what Brook provided , cause of his 3P shooting. Getting Saric or Jabari Parker would be nice playing the 4 while Giannis plays the 5. Even a guy like Baynes on minimum to match Adebayo's strength. I would sign Hartenstein of course too, Wilson should get traded or waived, I really don't understand why the **** we renounced his 3rd Rookie contract Year ? I guess stubbornness and incompetence is Bucks culture in FO and Coaching

[trwi7]

-57 wins!



This is an aggressively, irredeemably bad trade for us.

ETA Just realized we give up 2 picks in this! I've never seen somebody on this board earnestly post a trade that would be worse for us. Am I in hell?

-57 WINS is the proof why you shouldn't trust those stats

So according to this stupid win +/- calculator ...

LaVine
JJ Redick
Khris
Giannis
Kornet

Wins 25 Games (82-57) at the most

Nooooo you've got us starting Kornet?!

If we started 110 Kornets would we break even in wins? #musicals

[Chuck Diesel]

Could do worse than Solomon Hill for some small deal. Runs to the corners. Looks like the guy who rode the tractor around Miller Park.

[JayMKE]

I liked Kornet a couple years ago when he was on the Knicks as a young cheap big to bring in and develop as a potential successor for Brook. Can shoot, block shots, good size. Not sure how I feel about depending on him tho.