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[ShootingtheJ]

I think Kuzma defends well here. And is a very fine third option. Sims plays a bigger role capably than we think. Porter becomes a great bench scorer. And we get the chance to add a buyout guy or two while securing Rollins roster spot. I like the moves.

I think Kuzma will be unpopular here because everyone already hates him but will probably be fine as a distant 3rd guy here.

The other two I have low expectations for. If either of them pan out to be playable on a consistent basis, that's a major win.

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I disagree, the brand of basketball will be faster and more exciting on both ends. Keep the ball flowing mostly through Dame and we'll be fine.. we can run with the young teams now and still have great talent.. winning streaks will make everyone love everyone

We'll play slower. Dame walks the ball up, Khris sprinted it up and was willing to pass ahead. There's stats that show this. Kuzma doesn't handle the ball. No more of those easy lobs to Giannis for quick baskets.

[jmuelly]

What's the difference between Jabari Parker Bucks career & Kyle Kuzma?


Not advocating for this trade, but all over X it’s just negativity. The attachment to Middleton is strong I get it, but flip this situation around. If we had Kuz and took on Middleton in his current state to try and improve our closing window, ya’ll be mad too. “Bucks look to improve by trading Kuzma for aging, oft injured Khris Middleton.” I understand getting hung up on a prospect or a pick as a fan but from a management prospect they need to win now, not in 3 years.

TBH it’s almost comical that some peoples lives are so affected by this. I love this team, loved them long before Giannis, but holy smokes some people need to find a hobby or something. This isn’t 2k, you can’t just force your damaged goods on someone and get great value back. With or without this trade, or any trade it was going to be an uphill battle.

[PG Graveyard]

I honestly question the hoops intuition of anybody who doesn't think Kevin Porter Jr. is an all-star level talent. I'm just not excited that watching Bucks basketball has joined the same ambivalent family of experiences as watching Chinatown and listening to Ignition (Remix).

I recall you selling me on him in summer of 2023 but then the domestic stuff came out. He should be motivated and if he has legit cleaned up his life he can really help us still. I thought he changed the game against us in LA a couple weeks ago. No doubt the Bucks are a more athletic team today now

[jmuelly]

I honestly question the hoops intuition of anybody who doesn't think Kevin Porter Jr. is an all-star level talent. I'm just not excited that watching Bucks basketball has joined the same ambivalent family of experiences as watching Chinatown and listening to Ignition (Remix).

I recall you selling me on him in summer of 2023 but then the domestic stuff came out. He should be motivated and if he has legit cleaned up his life he can really help us still. I thought he changed the game against us in LA a couple weeks ago. No doubt the Bucks are a more athletic team today now

Players capable of running the floor with Giannis is not something we are accustomed to.

[randy84]

I'm not sure the Bucks are any closer to a championship than they were before the trade, but I don't think they are any further away either. I knew this wasn't the season when the Milwaukee Journal came out earlier in the year and talked about how much salary flexibility the Bucks would have next year. So at least I get to watch some different player this year. Not that I like any of them.

Horst is a great GM for the splashy trade and if you allow him to sell all his picks and waste a lot of money on player options. But he is a horrible GM at forecasting and understanding where the league is going. The league went young and fast and he was still clinging to his nostalgic old and plodding championship team.

And Bud for Doc is still the worst thing to happen to this team.

[Wonka]

I'm not sure the Bucks are any closer to a championship than they were before the trade, but I don't think they are any further away either. I knew this wasn't the season when the Milwaukee Journal came out earlier in the year and talked about how much salary flexibility the Bucks would have next year. So at least I get to watch some different player this year. Not that I like any of them.

Horst is a great GM for the splashy trade and if you allow him to sell all his picks and waste a lot of money on player options. But he is a horrible GM at forecasting and understanding where the league is going. The league went young and fast and he was still clinging to his nostalgic old and plodding championship team.

And Bud for Doc is still the worst thing to happen to this team.

I think we are right where we were, if not a bit further away. We got younger and more athletic, sure. But without the needed follow up moves, our rotation is still going to be dominated by our slow vets. We acquired two non-shooting, non defensive, non-winning players. These guys have had their best seasons for teams that don’t win, because that’s the type of players they are and the type of ceiling their impact has. PPGz on bad teams. We have one dependable shooter in our starting lineup now. It’s like an early 2000s lineup in terms of spacing. It’s a nightmare waiting to happen.

These moves are underwhelming on their own, but with Brook and Bobby still around, they become nonsensical. Horst is throwing darts at a board. And before all his cronies come out, yes, I know we were financially strapped. Blah blah blah. Doesn’t excuse him being bad at his job.

[BigO]

Don't think we solved literally any issues plaguing the team and gave up and depreciated assets even more. We'll see where this "flexibility" lends itself next season because that's the last shot before we have to blow it up for sure.

Ummmm... we needed a 2nd pg... boom... we needed a 3rd banana that's physically available more often.. boom.. athletic big.. boom.. 2nd apron.. boom ... 4 lingering problems and we have the buyout market..

Be disappointed but hyperbole isn't necessary

We needed good players, and none of them are good players. KPJ might have some fun stretches, but his volatility is a challenge.

Kuzma is not a 3rd banana, he's Bobby with a different build.

BP is much more efficient and a much better rebounder.

[-Jragon-]

Does anyone expect KPJ to get meaningful minutes for us? Over who?

He'll get a crack at those Rollins minutes. Some of those AJax minutes, too. Just a guess.

I'm actually wondering if Sims gets any burn if everyone is healthy.

Hopefully KPJ let's Rollins play the 2 and thereby eliminates Pat's playing time.

I would say Sims would play more on those days where Brook is getting ran off and has his low minute days.

Hopefully Sims lowers Bobby's minutes, but if he sucks neither will happen - I don't know this guy

[BigO]

I am now on the fire Horst bangwagon, even though I have no idea of who to replace him with. Tell me when the first meeting is.

Khris Middleton was much more valuable to the Bucks than any other team and I've said that multiple times. I'd even have given up the most underrated Buck, Bobby Portis, to keep Khris.

As an aside, I didn't watch the game the other night, but I see BP had 17 "fake" rebounds and 23 points after sitting out a bunch of games. Missing Portis probably cost the Bucks two to three games. Will the haters ever apologize? Come on, you'll feel much better.

[neiLz]

Not sure if this was covered but pelton had a piece:

Although the Milwaukee Bucks can't sign a player who was making more than $12.8 million, their series of moves this week allowed them to offer other buyout candidates up to $3.2 million using their taxpayer midlevel exception.

What does this mean? whom out there would be available?

Also - **** Kevin Porter Jr. Someone i will root against until he's out of duh league.

[Wonka]

Ummmm... we needed a 2nd pg... boom... we needed a 3rd banana that's physically available more often.. boom.. athletic big.. boom.. 2nd apron.. boom ... 4 lingering problems and we have the buyout market..

Be disappointed but hyperbole isn't necessary

We needed good players, and none of them are good players. KPJ might have some fun stretches, but his volatility is a challenge.

Kuzma is not a 3rd banana, he's Bobby with a different build.

BP is much more efficient and a much better rebounder.

Agreed. Are some guys really going to pretend that Kyle Kuzma is better than Bobby Portis now? That's what we’re doing lol?

[landoc88]

The faster the Bucks move on from John Horst the better they will be. How much time does Horst have left on his contract? Please be done and gone after this season.

[machu46]

I think Kuzma defends well here. And is a very fine third option. Sims plays a bigger role capably than we think. Porter becomes a great bench scorer. And we get the chance to add a buyout guy or two while securing Rollins roster spot. I like the moves.

I think Kuzma will be unpopular here because everyone already hates him but will probably be fine as a distant 3rd guy here.

The other two I have low expectations for. If either of them pan out to be playable on a consistent basis, that's a major win.

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I disagree, the brand of basketball will be faster and more exciting on both ends. Keep the ball flowing mostly through Dame and we'll be fine.. we can run with the young teams now and still have great talent.. winning streaks will make everyone love everyone

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[Frank Nova]

The frustrating thing for me is Brook Lopez still. The barometer for this team being the cup championship is total fools gold and that has nothing to do with the actual circumstances of that game. It’s because our main competition is still the Boston Celtics who are a better team than OKC when push comes to shove. And as we all know, Brook Lopez is unplayable in that series if we make it that far. So what good is all this really? We need a deep playoff run or “major changes” are coming but we did nothing to strengthen our chances against the top 3 teams in the eastern conference and Brook Lopez is a easily the biggest issue in that regard. He’s unplayable vs Boston, he can’t guard Jarrett Allen or Big Kat and we’re 0-8 on the year vs those teams. We trade Middleton for a better athlete to create a better pace but again, back to Lopez, we have the slowest moving big in the league that we’re still very dependent on. That makes absolutely zero sense.

[machu46]

I think Kuzma will be unpopular here because everyone already hates him but will probably be fine as a distant 3rd guy here.

The other two I have low expectations for. If either of them pan out to be playable on a consistent basis, that's a major win.

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I disagree, the brand of basketball will be faster and more exciting on both ends. Keep the ball flowing mostly through Dame and we'll be fine.. we can run with the young teams now and still have great talent.. winning streaks will make everyone love everyone

We'll play slower. Dame walks the ball up, Khris sprinted it up and was willing to pass ahead. There's stats that show this. Kuzma doesn't handle the ball. No more of those easy lobs to Giannis for quick baskets.

Kuzma handled the ball a pretty good amount for Washington (granted, somebody had to) and tried to get out in transition a pretty good amount too.

[Wonka]

Ummmm... we needed a 2nd pg... boom... we needed a 3rd banana that's physically available more often.. boom.. athletic big.. boom.. 2nd apron.. boom ... 4 lingering problems and we have the buyout market..

Be disappointed but hyperbole isn't necessary

You're the Costco family of NBA trades. We get it. Boom. Boom. Boom.

The issue is, none of these guys are good at basketball lol. Much like the real life Costco guys, they’re cheap entertainment. Kevin Porter Jr. isn't a 2nd point guard. He's an inefficient chucker who doesn’t play D and who Clipper fans are very happy to be rid of. Same with Kuzma, Wizards fans are thrilled to be rid of him and calling him a third banana is laughable at best.

Maybe a lot of you guys haven’t watched these guys play a whole lot other than cherry-picking their best YouTube game highlights…but you’re going to have plenty of tape now lol. It’s never a good sign when both fan bases are excited just to be rid of these guys. “Addition by subtraction” have been the phrases I’ve seen thrown out most about these two.

Excited about Sims, though!

[Wonka]

The frustrating thing for me is Brook Lopez still. The barometer for this team being the cup championship is total fools gold and that has nothing to do with the actual circumstances of that game. It’s because our main competition is still the Boston Celtics who are a better team than OKC when push comes to shove. And as we all know, Brook Lopez is unplayable in that series if we make it that far. So what good is all this really? We need a deep playoff run or “major changes” are coming but we did nothing to strengthen our chances against the top 3 teams in the eastern conference and Brook Lopez is a easily the biggest issue in that regard. He’s unplayable vs Boston, he can’t guard Jarrett Allen or Big Kat and we’re 0-8 on the year vs those teams. We trade Middleton for a better athlete to create a better pace but again, back to Lopez, we have the slowest moving big in the league that we’re still very dependent on. That makes absolutely zero sense.

The simple answer is that we are no longer a contender. It’s sad but that’s what it is at this point in time. Hopefully, this offseason goes well but yeah. We aren't anywhere near built for a significant run. It’s the first time I think this has been clearly signaled. We have a lot riding on the offseason as we usually do, but this one will be a bit more anxiety inducing I bet.

[BigO]

I disagree, the brand of basketball will be faster and more exciting on both ends. Keep the ball flowing mostly through Dame and we'll be fine.. we can run with the young teams now and still have great talent.. winning streaks will make everyone love everyone

We'll play slower. Dame walks the ball up, Khris sprinted it up and was willing to pass ahead. There's stats that show this. Kuzma doesn't handle the ball. No more of those easy lobs to Giannis for quick baskets.

Kuzma handled the ball a pretty good amount for Washington (granted, somebody had to) and tried to get out in transition a pretty good amount too.

Have no posters watched the playoffs?

Playoff basketball is much more of a half court game and always has been. The idea that getting Kuzma will increase our chances in the playoffs is a dream.

KM was a great shooter and excellent playmaker. He was hurt all last regular season and was still the best Buck in the playoffs. He should have been kept unless there was inside knowledge that he couldn't last the season.

As a matter of principle (I have no idea what principle, except having a chance in the playoffs), I'm taking a break from watching the games for a while. I may be good luck, since they won the other night.

But I'll still read here.I know my priorities.

[machu46]

Ummmm... we needed a 2nd pg... boom... we needed a 3rd banana that's physically available more often.. boom.. athletic big.. boom.. 2nd apron.. boom ... 4 lingering problems and we have the buyout market..

Be disappointed but hyperbole isn't necessary

You're the Costco family of NBA trades. We get it. Boom. Boom. Boom.

The issue is, none of these guys are good at basketball lol. Much like the real life Costco guys, they’re cheap entertainment. Kevin Porter Jr. isn't a 2nd point guard. He's an inefficient chucker who doesn’t play D and who Clipper fans are very happy to be rid of. Same with Kuzma, Wizards fans are thrilled to be rid of him and calling him a third banana is laughable at best.

Maybe a lot of you guys haven’t watched these guys play a whole lot other than cherry-picking their best YouTube game highlights…but you’re going to have plenty of tape now lol. It’s never a good sign when both fan bases are excited just to be rid of these guys. “Addition by subtraction” have been the phrases I’ve seen thrown out most about these two.

Excited about Sims, though!

I have watched a ton of Kuzma since the Wizards are my local team. If we're trying to make him our star player ahead of Giannis and Dame, then yeah, we're in serious trouble. It's a leap of faith because we haven't seen him have to blend in with other talented players since he was on a rookie contract, but he has the kind of skillset that should fit in just fine as a #3 guy. Good enough for this team to win a title? Almost certainly not. But I think he'll likely be an upgrade over 2025 Middleton and don't think his presence is what's limiting us from winning a title; it's just the fact that our team isn't good enough outside of our top guys.

[Vasquectomy]

The Clippers possibly missing a bench spark in their loss to the Pacers at home tonight?

Didn’t check the box score. MBC wasn’t active yet?