Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - 2025 Off-season

[German Athens]

If that deal floated on the trade board could be done for Dame, I’m doing it:

Mke: Dejounte, Olynyk
Nop: Dame

Compete the best you can this year. I think you could probably still make the playoffs and maybe have a second round ceiling with a good coach.

Go into next off-season, Olynyk will have expired. If Lauri still hasn’t been traded, offer that mid-first, ‘31 1st, and ‘32 swap.

Dejounte KPJ
Trent Rollins
Dairy
Lauri
Giannis

That team could absolutely contend.

That deal doesn’t seem possible. Dame makes like $15M more than Murray and Kelly combined, Pels don’t have cap space to take on that extra salary, and are they that desperate to get rid of Murray one year early that they’ll pay Dame more over the next two years to not suit up? (Murray is due $96M and Dame is due $122M)

Dame makes 9m more than them combined next season, and spotrac sees it as a legal trade. I haven’t checked to see if this then makes NOP a tax team or anything like that, but at the outset it appears legal.

[th87]

So you guys who want to trade him because Horst can't build another contender with the current roster think Horst can pull off a trade with productive players and picks that he hits on in return? The same Horst that botched the Kuzma trade and whiffs on picks?

I want to trade him because he has 2 years before his player option and imo there is a 0% chance we can compete for a title over the next 2 years. So the only logical decision you can come to from that is we need to move him now while he has max value before he walks or his value is 60% of what it is now.

Clear as day for me but so was trading Midds for Butler bitd and wanting off Lopez years ago and nearly everyone was against me there too.

0% chance we compete for a title for maybe 25 more years if we do trade him.

This isn't the NFL, where a Herschel Walker trade sets you up for years. *Most* NBA draft picks never exceed expectations.

And you jettison a bigger-than-basketball native son of sorts for this chance at mediocrity. The optics would be insane and would be talked about by our grandkids.

[All The Bucks]

When Giannis isn't traded between now and opening night of the '25/26 season (and he won't be) we all need to spam the hell out of the General Board, X/Twitter, and every comment section of every NBA publication that Giannis is STILL a Milwaukee Buck who is going absolutely nowhere anytime soon

[jakecronus8]

It's Flagg or bust for me RE: a Giannis trade.

We need to at least have the hope of a guy becoming a star player in any return. The stuff being discussed (packages including Houston young players/giant packages of non premium picks etc) don't provide that. So any team we deal him to for me has to have the #1 pick or the assets to get the #1 pick. Otherwise I just keep him and see what develops.

[KidA24]

10 years ago today, Giannis tackled Mike Dunleavy after Dunleavy punched MCW in the jaw and slapped Giannis in the throat.

[tedbrogen]

If that deal floated on the trade board could be done for Dame, I’m doing it:

Mke: Dejounte, Olynyk
Nop: Dame

Compete the best you can this year. I think you could probably still make the playoffs and maybe have a second round ceiling with a good coach.

Go into next off-season, Olynyk will have expired. If Lauri still hasn’t been traded, offer that mid-first, ‘31 1st, and ‘32 swap.

Dejounte KPJ
Trent Rollins
Dairy
Lauri
Giannis

That team could absolutely contend.

That deal doesn’t seem possible. Dame makes like $15M more than Murray and Kelly combined, Pels don’t have cap space to take on that extra salary, and are they that desperate to get rid of Murray one year early that they’ll pay Dame more over the next two years to not suit up? (Murray is due $96M and Dame is due $122M)

Dame makes 9m more than them combined next season, and spotrac sees it as a legal trade. I haven’t checked to see if this then makes NOP a tax team or anything like that, but at the outset it appears legal.

Let’s assume it’s legal cap wise, why would the Pels trade Murray to pay Dame more in the next two years than Murray makes in the next three years? They can’t be that desperate to move off Murray’s contract one year earlier. Bucks would likely have to include draft compensation and moving any future picks beyond the next five years that are already gone would be dumb. Especially for a non-needle mover.

[BigO]

It's Flagg or bust for me RE: a Giannis trade.

We need to at least have the hope of a guy becoming a star player in any return. The stuff being discussed (packages including Houston young players/giant packages of non premium picks etc) don't provide that. So any team we deal him to for me has to have the #1 pick or the assets to get the #1 pick. Otherwise I just keep him and see what develops.

This is where I'm at. I agree that getting multiple players and draft picks rarely works. Think Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Milwaukee.

Here's what I would do:

1) Meet right away with Giannis (it's reported that is what they will be doing).

2) If he wants to stay in Milwaukee, give him the max extension you can right now.

3) If he refuses, you cannot wait another year when his value will be significantly less, with only one year to go.

4) Do whatever you can to get Flagg and whatever else you can get.

Under this scenario, Giannis calls the shots. If he signs an extension, fine. If not, that's all I need to know.

[jakecronus8]

It's Flagg or bust for me RE: a Giannis trade.

We need to at least have the hope of a guy becoming a star player in any return. The stuff being discussed (packages including Houston young players/giant packages of non premium picks etc) don't provide that. So any team we deal him to for me has to have the #1 pick or the assets to get the #1 pick. Otherwise I just keep him and see what develops.

This is where I'm at. I agree that getting multiple players and draft picks rarely works. Think Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Milwaukee.

Here's what I would do:

1) Meet right away with Giannis (it's reported that is what they will be doing).

2) If he wants to stay in Milwaukee, give him the max extension you can right now.

3) If he refuses, you cannot wait another year when his value will be significantly less, with only one year to go.

4) Do whatever you can to get Flagg and whatever else you can get.

Under this scenario, Giannis calls the shots. If he signs an extension, fine. If not, that's all I need to know.

Its such a weird spot to be in. I want Giannis to prosper and for the Bucks to eventual crawl out of the abyss. Best thing for all parties involved remains San Antonio winning the lottery and pulling the trigger on a Flagg for Giannis based deal. Figure out the rest of it asset wise but I'm pretty sure they could work a deal money wise to keep Wemby/Fox/Vassell with Giannis. Thats multiple rings. In return we get the hope of the future.

[ReginaldDwight]

Some people are arguing in bad faith on here because they want to "do Giannis a favor" or "protect his legacy" or "see him win another ring" Whats best for the Bucks is Giannis retiring a Buck and until the man makes it very very clear he doesn't intend to do that you don't move him. Thinking some team is going to give up Flagg and all their picks is a pipe dream and even that isn't a surefire way back to a title contending team. Some of y'all GA only fans are so obvious in your posting that its insulting to those of us who sat through the dark days of Bucks basketball. This board loves thinking worst case scenario but the best case is Giannis staying here for his career which he has always said is the goal.

[jakecronus8]

Some people are arguing in bad faith on here because they want to "do Giannis a favor" or "protect his legacy" or "see him win another ring" Whats best for the Bucks is Giannis retiring a Buck and until the man makes it very very clear he doesn't intend to do that you don't move him. Thinking some team is going to give up Flagg and all their picks is a pipe dream and even that isn't a surefire way back to a title contending team. Some of y'all GA only fans are so obvious in your posting that its insulting to those of us who sat through the dark days of Bucks basketball. This board loves thinking worst case scenario but the best case is Giannis staying here for his career which he has always said is the goal.

I had season tickets in a year where Brian Skinner was a starter. I will not be challenged on my Bucks misery gold medal.

[tedbrogen]

It's Flagg or bust for me RE: a Giannis trade.

We need to at least have the hope of a guy becoming a star player in any return. The stuff being discussed (packages including Houston young players/giant packages of non premium picks etc) don't provide that. So any team we deal him to for me has to have the #1 pick or the assets to get the #1 pick. Otherwise I just keep him and see what develops.

Seems not impossible to tell whoever wants Giannis, send your assets to whoever wins the lotto and get us the #1 overall.

Besides the Jazz, I’d assume most teams would at least consider monster offers for the #1 overall.

I’m in the same boat, Flagg or bust. He’s the only guy that has top five potential if he hits his ceiling that they could get in a trade. Picks beyond this year are lottery tickets and worthless when the Bucks already traded picks will be higher than those in almost all cases because without Giannis, this is a playin team at best, probably much much worse.

[Baddy Chuck]

From what I understand, Bucks have:

$14.1M TPMLE
$5.1M BAE
$7.2M TPE

Can also offer Trent/Porter 120% of current deals, which obviously won't be enough for either. They can split the $14.1M TPMLE into multiple players.

I am not sure what the ramificantions of Dame and if we get any salary relief based on his injury.

TPMLE is significantly lower, no?

[fansinceforever]

I have mentioned giving a damn about Giannis' legacy but I've also watched every game I can since '99 and had season Tix in 2013-2014 season before I moved.

Go look up the record that season before you come at me lol.

I'll consider it a possibility that the best outcome is for Giannis to stay here as soon as someone explains to me how we accomplish anything noteworthy while he's here. Simply having Giannis on a 43 win team isn't exactly a good outcome for anybody involved.

[soxperry]

From what I understand, Bucks have:

$14.1M TPMLE
$5.1M BAE
$7.2M TPE

Can also offer Trent/Porter 120% of current deals, which obviously won't be enough for either. They can split the $14.1M TPMLE into multiple players.

I am not sure what the ramificantions of Dame and if we get any salary relief based on his injury.

TPMLE is significantly lower, no?

We get the NTMLE at 14m and the other two things

But we are hard capped at the first apron

I think we get the additional 14 for Dame's injury but that can only be a one year deal. Still helps.

Kpj should be signable now

[blazza18]

Here is my offseason plan..

1. Keep Giannis. Fire Doc. Hire Jenkins. No need to explain these.

I would like an explanation on why we'd settle for Jenkins?

[DanoMac]

It's Flagg or bust for me RE: a Giannis trade.

We need to at least have the hope of a guy becoming a star player in any return. The stuff being discussed (packages including Houston young players/giant packages of non premium picks etc) don't provide that. So any team we deal him to for me has to have the #1 pick or the assets to get the #1 pick. Otherwise I just keep him and see what develops.

Yeah, pretty much feel the same way. Need a potential superstar back. Basically either Flagg or Holmgren + hella assets (I’m higher than Holmgren than a lot on this board I think)

[ShootingtheJ]

It's Flagg or bust for me RE: a Giannis trade.

We need to at least have the hope of a guy becoming a star player in any return. The stuff being discussed (packages including Houston young players/giant packages of non premium picks etc) don't provide that. So any team we deal him to for me has to have the #1 pick or the assets to get the #1 pick. Otherwise I just keep him and see what develops.

This is where I'm at. I agree that getting multiple players and draft picks rarely works. Think Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Milwaukee.

Here's what I would do:

1) Meet right away with Giannis (it's reported that is what they will be doing).

2) If he wants to stay in Milwaukee, give him the max extension you can right now.

3) If he refuses, you cannot wait another year when his value will be significantly less, with only one year to go.

4) Do whatever you can to get Flagg and whatever else you can get.

Under this scenario, Giannis calls the shots. If he signs an extension, fine. If not, that's all I need to know.

Giannis is doing the usual exit interview that he and every other player do every year. He's not eligible for an extension. If he's ever traded, the team acquiring him is planning on extending him, so his inherited contact is irrelevant.

I agree that Flagg is an exciting prospect, but what guarantee are you offering that he'd have even an once of loyalty to Milwaukee?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Some people are arguing in bad faith on here because they want to "do Giannis a favor" or "protect his legacy" or "see him win another ring" Whats best for the Bucks is Giannis retiring a Buck and until the man makes it very very clear he doesn't intend to do that you don't move him. Thinking some team is going to give up Flagg and all their picks is a pipe dream and even that isn't a surefire way back to a title contending team. Some of y'all GA only fans are so obvious in your posting that its insulting to those of us who sat through the dark days of Bucks basketball. This board loves thinking worst case scenario but the best case is Giannis staying here for his career which he has always said is the goal.

I had season tickets in a year where Brian Skinner was a starter. I will not be challenged on my Bucks misery gold medal.

The first second or third stint?

[emunney]

It's Flagg or bust for me RE: a Giannis trade.

We need to at least have the hope of a guy becoming a star player in any return. The stuff being discussed (packages including Houston young players/giant packages of non premium picks etc) don't provide that. So any team we deal him to for me has to have the #1 pick or the assets to get the #1 pick. Otherwise I just keep him and see what develops.

This is where I'm at. I agree that getting multiple players and draft picks rarely works. Think Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Milwaukee.

Here's what I would do:

1) Meet right away with Giannis (it's reported that is what they will be doing).

2) If he wants to stay in Milwaukee, give him the max extension you can right now.

3) If he refuses, you cannot wait another year when his value will be significantly less, with only one year to go.

4) Do whatever you can to get Flagg and whatever else you can get.

Under this scenario, Giannis calls the shots. If he signs an extension, fine. If not, that's all I need to know.

He can't sign an extension. The last extension he signed hasn't even kicked in yet.

I believe he'll be eligible to extend for two more years on Oct 23rd, the two year anniversary of when he signed the last one.

[tedbrogen]

Here is my offseason plan..

1. Keep Giannis. Fire Doc. Hire Jenkins. No need to explain these.

I would like an explanation on why we'd settle for Jenkins?

Yeah, I’d rather take a chance on Spoo’s top assistant or really anyone that hasn’t already been fired once.