Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[clutchiness]

I just hope Jabari doesn't tell Lazry/Edens that HE wants to be president of basketball operations...

Why do you keep calling him Lazry? Are you trying to be funny, or are you making a genuine mistake?

I do it because i know you find it endearing.

[xTitan]

windhorst asked why bucks would want kidd: "this, I don't understand...it seems like mark lazry wants his friend...the situation in milwaukee will require a lot of skill..."

He is 100% correct, this move is baffling, you need to hire someone who has had success building a small market team into a winner or has been a key cog in the process. Lasry needs quit acting like a jock sniffer and more like an intelligent businessman. What worries me the most about all of this is that new ownership DIDN'T have a plan at all, flying by the seat of their pants and when this jag became available they were horribly reactionary. If this Kidd thing goes down all we have are richer versions of Herbie, and that is sad.

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Your point?

[machu46]

Why in the F would we give up anything, even if it is "just" 2nd round picks??

I think this was brought up by Wich but could there be tampering accusations brought up by the Nets? I dunno but it may be too late to wait it out then sign him after he's fired.

Yeah, we'll have to wait for more details to come out. The way that it was reported, that Kidd reached out to us to interview for the job after getting permission from Brooklyn would make us innocent, but obviously there could be more to the story.

[raferfenix]

The best argument for giving Kidd this kind of high profile role he is very much unqualified for would be that he could entice superstar free agents to come to Milwaukee if he is the one running the show.

In today's NBA that is becoming more and more important. The best players are making their own decisions so having "one of their own" in charge could be enticing.

Of course the Bucks have no history of signing high profile free agents this side of Bobby Simmons. But if all of a sudden we would pull one in, it could be a Reggie White kind of moment for the franchise.

[ampd]

I'd be grudgingly ok with it if this was just as a coach, but as an executive also? We can't seriously be considering giving up draft picks for this?

The question here really is, is this really building the foundation for a successful organization? Our front office needs to be cleaned out for sure, but this is the kind of swing for the fences move that seems out of place for an organization looking to rebuild and play the long game out of the ashes of 20 years of failure.

Maybe a down side of the NBA buyback provision in the sale of the team is this whole thing is basically a free roll for Lasry and Edens. There is no risk to them to taking huge risks with the franchise, beyond they won't be likely to get a second chance with another one.

Hopefully most of this is from Kidd's camp and this turns out to be a lot different than what is being reported.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Why are Hammond and drew still employed? I dislike the two of them but it's a little ridiculous they are still employed during this circus. Doesn't seem like the right or most professional way to handle things by the new owners. Just fire the dudes and put them out of their misery.

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[emunney]

Still waiting for the first example of the guy with no player personnel experience who gets a top personnel job and is great at it. The closest I can find is Dumars, though the last 5 years have not been kind to his reputation. Other examples would be Billy King, Elgin Baylor, Phil Jackson, Stan Van Gundy. Who am I missing?

[JayMKE]

He is 100% correct, this move is baffling, you need to hire someone who has had success building a small market team into a winner or has been a key cog in the process. Lasry needs quit acting like a jock sniffer and more like an intelligent businessman. What worries me the most about all of this is that new ownership DIDN'T have a plan at all, flying by the seat of their pants and when this jag became available they were horribly reactionary. If this Kidd thing goes down all we have are richer versions of Herbie, and that is sad.

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This proves what? that there's 30 GM's in the league and finding a good one is very hard to do? You're never going to have sure bet in anything, but there's a general consensus we'd like someone with a front office background than than a former player a year removed from the court?

Let a long get a guy the entire league is laughing about.

It proves as much of what anybody posting pictures of Michael Jordan is proving.

[Wise1]

Kidd's first order of business as Milwaukee Bucks POBO....nail Mallory Lasry.

SMH at this entire post. From the post itself, to calling Mallory Edens Mallory Lasry.

You know wut um seh. lol My bad.

[bizarro]

Still waiting for the first example of the guy with no player personnel experience who gets a top personnel job and is great at it.

Ainge, my friend. He had no personnel experience. He's been pretty damn fantastic if you ask me. He had 3.25 seasons as a coach and then took a several year absence before he came on w/ the Celtics if I recall correctly.

[JayMKE]

Still waiting for the first example of the guy with no player personnel experience who gets a top personnel job and is great at it.

[xTitan]

The best argument for giving Kidd this kind of high profile role he is very much unqualified for would be that he could entice superstar free agents to come to Milwaukee if he is the one running the show.

In today's NBA that is becoming more and more important. The best players are making their own decisions so having "one of their own" in charge could be enticing.

Of course the Bucks have no history of signing high profile free agents this side of Bobby Simmons. But if all of a sudden we would pull one in, it could be a Reggie White kind of moment for the franchise.

Not going to happen, besides the new ownership group has already said draft and develop is the way for them to go.

[xTitan]

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This proves what? that there's 30 GM's in the league and finding a good one is very hard to do? You're never going to have sure bet in anything, but there's a general consensus we'd like someone with a front office background than than a former player a year removed from the court?

Let a long get a guy the entire league is laughing about.

It proves as much of what anybody posting pictures of Michael Jordan is proving.

Proves you have no logical response to my post, which actually makes sense.

[ampd]

The best argument for giving Kidd this kind of high profile role he is very much unqualified for would be that he could entice superstar free agents to come to Milwaukee if he is the one running the show.

In today's NBA that is becoming more and more important. The best players are making their own decisions so having "one of their own" in charge could be enticing.

Of course the Bucks have no history of signing high profile free agents this side of Bobby Simmons. But if all of a sudden we would pull one in, it could be a Reggie White kind of moment for the franchise.

Not going to happen, besides the new ownership group has already said draft and develop is the way for them to go.

Considering the equivalent to signing Reggie White (probably the best DE ever) in the middle of his prime would be like signing Durant, yeah its not likely.

[Bucks_MacGyver]

I think the owners know kidd is not qualified, this is just a move to have a known name in charge for the fans who don't watch the NBA but know who Jason Kidd is and plus what the other people have been saying about attracting free agents. Stop looking at this from a basketball point of view you guys look crazy..

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[PkrsBcksGphsMqt]

If you read Woj's article it makes it even tougher to see this as a good move for the organization. I'll trust Lasry and Edens though.

[xTitan]

I think the owners know kidd is not qualified, this is just a move to have a known name in charge for the fans who don't watch the NBA but know who Jason Kidd is and plus what the other people have been saying about attracting free agents. Stop looking at this from a basketball point of view you guys look crazy..

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The problem with that thought is this market will definitely care about Kidd's sketchy past, this is the Midwest.

[emunney]

Glad to hear these examples. Nelson seems like the biggest success for this model as he was hired as GM and HC pretty much right after he stopped playing.

[JimmyTheKid]

Why is it a crime all of a sudden to express our concerns that Kidd might not be qualified to do this position? We should let an unqualified person fail before we judge? What the hell? Why not hire me? Or you? Don't judge, let me fail first.

"Express our concerns?" Ok, you may want to read through this thread again. It's full blown meltdown mode. Again, how did Hammond and all of his "qualifications" work out for our organization?


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[JayMKE]

I think the owners know kidd is not qualified, this is just a move to have a known name in charge for the fans who don't watch the NBA but know who Jason Kidd is and plus what the other people have been saying about attracting free agents. Stop looking at this from a basketball point of view you guys look crazy..

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The problem with that thought is this market will definitely care about Kidd's sketchy past, this is the Midwest.

Don't seem to mind any of the Packers or Brewers personal problems, nobody really noticed we had a rapist on our team, nobody was calling for Larry Harris's head when he got a DWI while GM as the Bucks. I don't think anybody cares.