Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[Profound23]

We are into sports, especially basketball....and ESPECIALLY Bucks basketball to be here on this forum.

We are not the average fan. We will support the new stadium no matter what.

The average (or below average fan) knows Jason Kidd. I talked about this when the story broke late last night and even early today with fans that are not very knowledgeable about basketball. They know Jason Kidd and see this as a HUGE thing. It is exciting to them.

I don't know how I feel about it, but those who think this doesn't have anything to do with a new arena don't really have a clue. I have talked to a bunch of people over the past 14 hours about this and they have all said this persuades their decision. It may sound foolish, but it's true.

[emunney]

Why is it a crime all of a sudden to express our concerns that Kidd might not be qualified to do this position? We should let an unqualified person fail before we judge? What the hell? Why not hire me? Or you? Don't judge, let me fail first.

"Express our concerns?" Ok, you may want to read through this thread again. It's full blown meltdown mode. Again, how did Hammond and all of his "qualifications" work out for our organization?


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Poorly. That doesn't mean it was the wrong approach.

[Aaron It Out]

Windhorst has no idea what he's talking about. Bowen is equally dumb.

[machu46]

Windhorst has no idea what he's talking about. Bowen is equally dumb.

What exactly is this in reference to?

[emunney]

We are into sports, especially basketball....and ESPECIALLY Bucks basketball to be here on this forum.

We are not the average fan. We will support the new stadium no matter what.

The average (or below average fan) knows Jason Kidd. I talked about this when the story broke late last night and even early today with fans that are not very knowledgeable about basketball. They know Jason Kidd and see this as a HUGE thing. It is exciting to them.

I don't know how I feel about it, but those who think this doesn't have anything to do with a new arena don't really have a clue. I have talked to a bunch of people over the past 14 hours about this and they have all said this persuades their decision. It may sound foolish, but it's true.

I agree with you. This is a profile expander for the team. I just think there are better ways to do it, like building a sustainable winner. I'm sure the hope is that this kills both birds.

I would also add as a response to people who've been saying he won't be accepted here because of his past crimes, I think that's nonsense. Most people don't even know about that stuff. People that do are more than willing to forgive if they think he brings credibility to the team/city. Maybe it goes sour if he does something bad during his tenure, but probably not. Wins and losses will determine 95% of all attitudes toward him, as they did with DWI Larry Harris.

At any rate, I'm not going to belabor this any more. I don't think it's a good move, but it looks like it's happening, so I'll just try to be hopeful about it. I would rather hire a shady unknown than a known loser.

[xTitan]

Windhorst has no idea what he's talking about. Bowen is equally dumb.

What did he say on that segment that wasn't true?

[Faede]

I still fail to see how Kidd would be taking over control of personnel decisions. That would still be in the realm of the the GM and the owners would still have complete oversight. Hiring a gm? Sure (and again, the owners would have oversight). But even with operations control, the president does not magically become the GM.

[Aaron It Out]

Windhorst has no idea what he's talking about. Bowen is equally dumb.

What exactly is this in reference to?

Sorry, watching SportsCenter. Windhorst basically said Milwaukee hasn't had success in the past because it's a small market, makes no mention of Herb Kohl. Said they'll never be able to attract FA. Bowen just kind of trashed Milwaukee saying he doesn't understand why anyone would want to go there. All while showing a graphic of the Bucks starting lineup containing Ilyasova at the 4 and Giannis on the bench.

Windhorst also said there have been no talks to other coaches in Brooklyn, even though the poster on the Nets board who called Kidd to Nets in the middle of the draft said they have been talking to Marc Jackson. He's just a fanboy who's been following LeBron around his whole career and that's how he got the job at ESPN.

[WRau1]

A lot of my friends that aren't currently into the NBA are very enthused at the possibility of Kidd joining the Bucks.

[Aaron It Out]

Bowen also had really **** things to say about Milwaukee when he was traded here. He could have kept his mouth shut and just retired but he had to talk trash even though he knew he was never going to play here.

[th87]

My main concern with him is that he's a sociopath with the people-skills of a Targaryen. Bridges will be burned, futures will be destroyed, and assets will be squandered based on his well-documented capriciousness.

Actual ability is further down on my list of concerns.

[glenn]

I've started and deleted several posts, either because I don't know what I really think, or because I didn't feel like picking a fight. So here's a list of things I think I think.

1) It worries me that Kidd doesn't have executive experience, even if there are others that have been successful (Ainge/Nelson).

2) Do I support domestic violence and drunk driving? Absolutely not. But the abuse charge is over a decade old, and we live in a state where I hear people swapping DWI stories without shame or embarrassment over lunch.

3) The Nets PR team obviously are trying to get in front of this, smearing Kidd as much as possible since their risk backfired on them.

4) It's baffling that there are people on this board that already have a list of grievances RE the new owners. Give me a **** break.

5) This will have no impact on a stadium getting built.

[SkilesTheLimit]

A lot of my friends that aren't currently into the NBA are very enthused at the possibility of Kidd joining the Bucks.

Very predictable.

I said last night the casual fan is going to eat this up.

[humanrefutation]

A lot of my friends that aren't currently into the NBA are very enthused at the possibility of Kidd joining the Bucks.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread. This is going to have an impact on casual fans who remember Jason Kidd as the HOF PG. If Wes and Marc are serious about getting an arena deal lined up within a year from now, I can see why they would want to bring in someone like Kidd to attract the attention of the media. The hope is that he would grease the skids for a deal quickly before Kidd demonstrates himself to be unqualified to be POBO.

[WRau1]

A lot of my friends that aren't currently into the NBA are very enthused at the possibility of Kidd joining the Bucks.

Very predictable.

I said last night the casual fan is going to eat this up.

yup, first thing I said when I heard the report.

L&E aren't idiots, they know what they're doing. They'll let Kidd have his position in the FO and parade him around town to drive up support for a new arena. They'll put basketball people in position of power. These are two completely self made guys, they didn't get there by making stupid, uneducated decisions.

[WRau1]

A lot of my friends that aren't currently into the NBA are very enthused at the possibility of Kidd joining the Bucks.

I mentioned this earlier in the thread. This is going to have an impact on casual fans who remember Jason Kidd as the HOF PG. If Wes and Marc are serious about getting an arena deal lined up within a year from now, I can see why they would want to bring in someone like Kidd to attract the attention of the media. The hope is that he would grease the skids for a deal quickly before Kidd demonstrates himself to be unqualified to be POBO.

Yup, even my sister knows who Kidd is.

[raferfenix]

For all his faults Kidd absolutely puts us on the map locally and nationally. Whether that would turn out to be worth it is a different question though.

So what do we think he would do with our roster?



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[Miasma]

Apparently flew in over night by private jet.

[El Duderino]

As long as we don't give up any 1st round picks I'm more then fine with hiring Kidd as POBO. I understand he doesn't have any experience in a FO besides being a Head Coach for 1 year, but he's been involved with the NBA for the last 20 years, I'm pretty sure he has an idea on what the responsibilities are for the POBO and how to execute them. Also in that span of 20 years I'm sure he has identified who the Good GM's and Coaches are and I"m willing to give him the benefit of doubt that he will surround himself with highly qualified people.

If Kidd gets the president title, he's going to be the GM with final say over any moves. He's not going to become president and let a socalled "GM" underneath him have final say on any trades, draft picks, or free agent signings.

Mix in if Kidd also is the head coach along with president, he'll never have the time needed to travel around during the college ball season to scout players. Scout guys overseas like a real GM does. To study the CBA inside and out.

Remember when the Packers gave Mike Sherman GM responsibilities along with the head coach role even though he had never even been a scout before, much less say an assistant GM. He proved to be in over his head, sucked as GM, and eventually the team got worse and worse. He also burned out. Here he was at the combine sleeping.

[LoveDaBoo]

My main concern with him is that he's a sociopath with the people-skills of a Targaryen. Bridges will be burned, futures will be destroyed, and assets will be squandered based on his well-documented capriciousness.

Actual ability is further down on my list of concerns.

Sociopathic former point-guard you say?