Giannis' Development

[VooDoo7]

Reminds me of all the "let's draft Thanasis!" talk two years ago. I'm vehemently opposed to drafting players' relatives on the same team. Maybe it's an irrational fear, but I just don't see how it's ever a good idea unless he's some top-tier lottery prospect. Seems too much of a conflict of interest to me.

So how do you feel about owners hiring their buddy to coach their team?

And then that coach signing his own buddies to play for him?

Talk about conflict of interest.

[midranger]

Yep, those same stats that projected OJ Mayo to be a superstar.

The point being if he didn't share the same last name as Giannis nobody around these parts would even mention the idea of drafting him

The point being that AAU stats are not always an accurate way to project someone's career trajectory.

I think if you tear up AAU, there is no guarantee of NBA success. But if you completely and utterly suck in AAU and high school like Kostas, it's probably a damn near certainty that you won't be a successful NBA player.

[greekbuck34]

Giannis posted some amazing new photos from his childhood on his facebook page!
On two of them he wears my team's jersey in Greece, Olympiakos.
On another he has a cornrows haircut!





More here.

http://nba.sport24.gr/article/3970009/oi-anamniseis-tou-antetokounmpo

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^amazing

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The point being if he didn't share the same last name as Giannis nobody around these parts would even mention the idea of drafting him

The point being that AAU stats are not always an accurate way to project someone's career trajectory.

I think if you tear up AAU, there is no guarantee of NBA success. But if you completely and utterly suck in AAU and high school like Kostas, it's probably a damn near certainty that you won't be a successful NBA player.

Nah. Too soon. The kid will probably be a 7 footer with ball skills coming from elite bloodlines. I'll be surprised if he doesn't have at least a solid NBA career.

[Ayt]

The point being that AAU stats are not always an accurate way to project someone's career trajectory.

I think if you tear up AAU, there is no guarantee of NBA success. But if you completely and utterly suck in AAU and high school like Kostas, it's probably a damn near certainty that you won't be a successful NBA player.

Nah. Too soon. The kid will probably be a 7 footer with ball skills coming from elite bloodlines. I'll be surprised if he doesn't have at least a solid NBA career.

This is an exceptionally stupid way to evaluate prospects.

[Chapter29]

Jabari's scoring will be up too. Giannis may not see a 20ppg average either.

Ahhh so 16ppg max would you say??

I really don't know. I would guess higher than that, but we will effectively have 3 guys who are very capable scorers and who knows what we get out of our new PG.

Giannis is going to start being a very good - great player in this league next year. Just needs a better jumper. He may get 20 on average and he certainly will be capable I am sure, but we do have to share the ball with 2 other good scorers.

[Nightfall]

On two of them he wears my team's jersey in Greece, Olympiakos.

This shows how poor they were. He would wear whatever "crap" he could find

[GeoBar]

Some interesting notes from a podcast today with Greece's national team coach F.Katsikaris and Giannis' agent G.Panou.
1.F.Katsikaris
"Really impressed with the high level of basketball Giannis is playing now".
"He is there because of 3 reasons...talent+work+personality".
"The important thing is not which position Giannis will play but who are the players around him"
"He is definetely an on-ball player"
"I wanted to give the ball in his hands from last year but we didn't have enough time as a national team to work as much as we want on this"
"This summer we will see pretty much a Giannis' team but we have a major problem as a team because we don't have elite shooters.So we have to find a balance.In any case that's what kind of basketball players Giannis needs around him."
'It is time for him to step up and change this National team's philosophy.This new philosophy is my philosophy also".
"Its a big dilemma for a player like Giannis to choose between shooting or driving to the basket because he knows how easy is for him with one-two steps can dunk the ball"
"Yeah i know he has weaknesses on shooting.But ii wanna ask you this..If Giannis didn't have a single weakness at this age for what kind of player we should be talking about right now?"
"His physical abilities are out of this world"-his passing abilities are underatted"
2.G.Panou(his agent)
About when Giannis impressed him for first time
"It was a game against Panathinaikos(U18).Saragosa B.C.'s scouter was there to check him out.What Giannis did in the first half was insane..he scored with every possible way..he was every where on the court..at the halftime scouter left for 5 min and he came back with the contract in his hands and told me..."i go nowhere if i dont get this contract with Giannis' signature on it".
"I wanna say something for first time.Bucks' plan last year hold back Giannis' and Jabaris' development.This wasn't the plan.But because they won the change it.They are on this plan right now".

Sorry for the long post...maybe i post more notes later with G.Panou answers..they sound quite interesting.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

I think if you tear up AAU, there is no guarantee of NBA success. But if you completely and utterly suck in AAU and high school like Kostas, it's probably a damn near certainty that you won't be a successful NBA player.

Nah. Too soon. The kid will probably be a 7 footer with ball skills coming from elite bloodlines. I'll be surprised if he doesn't have at least a solid NBA career.

This is an exceptionally stupid way to evaluate prospects.

Kind of weird that Giannis was playing in a professional league in Greece well enough to get noticed for the draft, yet Kostas barely is the best player at Domician despite the bloodlines. That must kick in at 19.

I'm surprised more D-1 schools aren't taking a flyer. He's 6'11' and athletic and with 3 years of D-1 training I got to think he projects as a great defensive big. As a bonus, you will get Giannis hanging around the program every once in a while.

[RRyder823]

Nah. Too soon. The kid will probably be a 7 footer with ball skills coming from elite bloodlines. I'll be surprised if he doesn't have at least a solid NBA career.

This is an exceptionally stupid way to evaluate prospects.

Kind of weird that Giannis was playing in a professional league in Greece well enough to get noticed for the draft, yet Kostas barely is the best player at Domician despite the bloodlines. That must kick in at 19.

I'm surprised more D-1 schools aren't taking a flyer. He's 6'11' and athletic and with 3 years of D-1 training I got to think he projects as a great defensive big. As a bonus, you will get Giannis hanging around the program every once in a while.

Wouldn't that be a HUGE red flag that he just isn't any good given his measurables?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

This is an exceptionally stupid way to evaluate prospects.

Kind of weird that Giannis was playing in a professional league in Greece well enough to get noticed for the draft, yet Kostas barely is the best player at Domician despite the bloodlines. That must kick in at 19.

I'm surprised more D-1 schools aren't taking a flyer. He's 6'11' and athletic and with 3 years of D-1 training I got to think he projects as a great defensive big. As a bonus, you will get Giannis hanging around the program every once in a while.

Wouldn't that be a HUGE red flag that he just isn't any good given his measurables?

In case you missed my first line, I fully admit I don't think he is that good. That said, I've seen videos of him and he moves pretty well and seems to have a decent personality based on what I heard. I know scholarships are at a premium but a school like MU ends up eating a schollie every year because of transfers and missed recruits. I would rather have a project like Kostas at the end of the bench and just hope he becomes a great defensive rotational player by his junior or senior year. 6'11" guys don't grow on trees.

[Ron Swanson]

This is an exceptionally stupid way to evaluate prospects.

Kind of weird that Giannis was playing in a professional league in Greece well enough to get noticed for the draft, yet Kostas barely is the best player at Domician despite the bloodlines. That must kick in at 19.

I'm surprised more D-1 schools aren't taking a flyer. He's 6'11' and athletic and with 3 years of D-1 training I got to think he projects as a great defensive big. As a bonus, you will get Giannis hanging around the program every once in a while.

Wouldn't that be a HUGE red flag that he just isn't any good given his measurables?

Not saying that Kostas is going to be an NBA player, but Porzingis didn't get any offers from D-1 schools and was only comically "recruited through Facebook by some D-II schools". I don't know if he's received offers from D1 programs, but it's not a really a solid indicator either way.

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I think if you tear up AAU, there is no guarantee of NBA success. But if you completely and utterly suck in AAU and high school like Kostas, it's probably a damn near certainty that you won't be a successful NBA player.

Nah. Too soon. The kid will probably be a 7 footer with ball skills coming from elite bloodlines. I'll be surprised if he doesn't have at least a solid NBA career.

This is an exceptionally stupid way to evaluate prospects.

If anyone can speak to exceptionally stupid ways to evaluate prospects, it's you. Since this is the Giannis thread, care to revisit your brilliant evaluations of him?

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Kind of weird that Giannis was playing in a professional league in Greece well enough to get noticed for the draft, yet Kostas barely is the best player at Domician despite the bloodlines. That must kick in at 19.

I'm surprised more D-1 schools aren't taking a flyer. He's 6'11' and athletic and with 3 years of D-1 training I got to think he projects as a great defensive big. As a bonus, you will get Giannis hanging around the program every once in a while.

Wouldn't that be a HUGE red flag that he just isn't any good given his measurables?

Not saying that Kostas is going to be an NBA player, but Porzingis didn't get any offers from D-1 schools and was only comically "recruited through Facebook by some D-II schools". I don't know if he's received offers from D1 programs, but it's not a really a solid indicator either way.

Was KP ever going to play college through? Kostas is right here for the picking and UW and MU are passing on him. I'm pretty sure he would go to MU if offered.

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Lol @ placing your faith in a prospect based on what colleges think of them. It's ludicrous that UW and Marquette, at the very least, haven't offered him anything. If you thought pro scouting was often bad, these college guys are buffoons.

[Ron Swanson]

Wouldn't that be a HUGE red flag that he just isn't any good given his measurables?

Not saying that Kostas is going to be an NBA player, but Porzingis didn't get any offers from D-1 schools and was only comically "recruited through Facebook by some D-II schools". I don't know if he's received offers from D1 programs, but it's not a really a solid indicator either way.

Was KP ever going to play college through? Kostas is right here for the picking and UW and MU are passing on him. I'm pretty sure he would go to MU if offered.

Maybe, we can't really know for sure. He didn't receive any scholarships from D1 schools and colleges recruit overseas guys all the time. Enes Kanter was supposed to play at Kentucky his freshman year but was ineligible due to his receiving compensation from his pro club.

[DarvinHam]

Lol @ placing your faith in a prospect based on what colleges think of them. It's ludicrous that UW and Marquette, at the very least, haven't offered him anything. If you thought pro scouting was often bad, these college guys are buffoons.

Hey, maybe in offer is forthcoming. But, I'm struggling to think of the last great WI HS kid that failed to get an offer from UW or Marquette to really turn into something in the pros... ( I have no idea what offers Sprewell got).

[coolhandluke121]

I think we should draft Giannis's mom. Because bloodlines.

[M-C-G]

Giannis posted some amazing new photos from his childhood on his facebook page!

Why did he post a young picture of John Henson on this one??? haha