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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - IT has bad hip, trade in question pg 13 

Post#721 » by MidnightBuck » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:20 am

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MidnightBuck wrote:The difference is Durant could shoot, Giannis can't. We need an instant-offense point guard. Kyrie shooting 30 times a game will be him taking away all of Giannis' low percentage perimeter looks and leaving him with what he does best - scoring in transition and making unbelievable plays on mismatches.

i mean sure this is a valid and tested way to play bsketball, but it's not the only way.

Our offense is simple but it's actually quite efficient, almost fail-proof: start by giving the ball to Giannis, see if he can find a lane to attack the basket, if he can't he drives anyway to force the double team and then kicks to the open player, who gets an open 3 or attacks the closeout. Or maybe does a dribble hand off to Snell, or some other simple play. These things work 50-60% of the time because we have just the right players for it. If this fails, the remaining 40% of the time you just give the ball to Khris who mostly comes up with something good, and if that fails too you bring some instant offense off the bench, usually Monroe or sometimes Beasley.

The reason this fell through against Toronto was because Khris was gassed after missing most of his training camp and half the season, Thon was still too raw, Beasley kind of disappeared after his injury and our D still needed finetuning. All these things are getting slowly better. Give it one year, just one.

I appreciate the optimism, but you basically just described ISO basketball.

Each and every year this style of basketball is becoming less and less viable. Giannis especially has difficulty with ISO because he can't shoot which really showed in the Toronto series. We dominated through the first three games because Toronto hadn't figured this out. Casey made an adjustment, gave Giannis room on the perimeter, and the rest is history.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#722 » by MidnightBuck » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:24 am

On another note, I like Ainge, but I think he drastically messed the Celtics up for a long time to come. He built a team that's just barely good enough to NOT win a championship - especially with the impending GSW dynasty.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - IT has bad hip, trade in question pg 13 

Post#723 » by Pachinko_ » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:25 am

MidnightBuck wrote:I appreciate the optimism, but you basically just described ISO basketball.

Hey, it's the NBA, teams are not capable of anything more advanced :dontknow:
Certainly our coach isnt.

MidnightBuck wrote:Each and every year this style of basketball is becoming less and less viable. Giannis especially has difficulty with ISO because he can't shoot which really showed in the Toronto series. We dominated through the first three games because Toronto hadn't figured this out. Casey made an adjustment, gave Giannis room on the perimeter, and the rest is history.

I read those games differently, I thought a) Giannis had no problems whatsoever getting what he wanted and totally raped them, and b) we failed for the reasons I mentioned, mostly Khris not having the legs for POs.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#724 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:25 am

I blame John Hammond.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - IT has bad hip, trade in question pg 13 

Post#725 » by MidnightBuck » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:32 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
MidnightBuck wrote:I appreciate the optimism, but you basically just described ISO basketball.

Hey, it's the NBA, teams are not capable of anything more advanced :dontknow:
Certainly our coach isnt.

MidnightBuck wrote:Each and every year this style of basketball is becoming less and less viable. Giannis especially has difficulty with ISO because he can't shoot which really showed in the Toronto series. We dominated through the first three games because Toronto hadn't figured this out. Casey made an adjustment, gave Giannis room on the perimeter, and the rest is history.

I read those games differently, I thought a) Giannis had no problems whatsoever getting what he wanted and totally raped them, and b) we failed for the reasons I mentioned, mostly Khris not having the legs for POs.

Absolutely agreed about Coach Kidd, I'm starting to believe more and more that he's the Mark Jackson to our Warriors. Unfortunately, hedge fund billionaires will neither admit their mistake nor cross their good buddy.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#726 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:32 am

Ron Swanson wrote:I blame John Hammond.

Now you're thinking.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#727 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:33 am

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chonestown wrote:Hayward and Kyrie. Name a more iconic duo.

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Post#728 » by chonestown » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:38 am

Ah yes, the serialized adventures of Starsky and Hutch. Bit before my time, I'm afraid.

Y'know, now would be a perfect time for someone to paste an image from Sledge Hammer. Hint-hint.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#729 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:40 am

Glad the Bucks got into this. The offer they put on the table was fair and I wouldn't have gone further.

All that said, anticipating the Bucks getting off to a terrible start along with the Nets and there being plenty of banter here to move Mids and Brog to CLE for the Nets pick. It is just the life of a Bucks fans.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#730 » by chonestown » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:42 am

Ron Swanson wrote:I blame John Hammond.


The greatest hits of yesteryear. Today.

Boy, does this me back all the way to the year twenty-ought seventeen. Simpler times, so much promise, back before pa lost his job at the foundry and before ma got hooked on Chewels.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#731 » by trwi7 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:47 am

chonestown wrote:Hayward and Kyrie. Name a more iconic duo.


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Post#732 » by trwi7 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:53 am

chonestown wrote:Boy, does this me back all the way to the year twenty-ought seventeen. Simpler times, so much promise, back before pa lost his job at the foundry and before ma got hooked on Chewels.


It is actually spelled aught and in the way you used it here, the year would be 20017. 20-aught (0)-17.

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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#733 » by chonestown » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:00 am

trwi7 wrote:
chonestown wrote:Boy, does this me back all the way to the year twenty-ought seventeen. Simpler times, so much promise, back before pa lost his job at the foundry and before ma got hooked on Chewels.


It is actually spelled aught and in the way you used it here, the year would be 20017. 20-aught (0)-17.

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Some, not me, might call you a pedant. OTOH, I just wanted to use aught irregardless.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#734 » by chonestown » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:01 am

trwi7 wrote:
chonestown wrote:Hayward and Kyrie. Name a more iconic duo.


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Good Burger > Turdburger.*

*Turdburger is what I call the Hayward-Irving partnership.
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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#735 » by trwi7 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:06 am

Kenan and Kel's theme song has better duos too.

Siegfried and Roy, Abbott and Costello, Magic and Kareem or Penn and Teller. Somebody's in trouble, aww here it goes. On Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick.
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Post#736 » by Nowak008 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:12 am

Max Green wrote:Disappointed.

We've could've taken the next step if we were able to trade for Kyrie.


The Chucker Play No Defense Guard Fan Club is disappointed. :cry:
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Post#737 » by Nowak008 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:14 am

Ron Swanson wrote:I blame John Hammond.


Good call. If we had more assets, we wouldn't have to gut the entire team to acquire Kyrie.
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Post#738 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:16 am

Nowak008 wrote:
Max Green wrote:Disappointed.

We've could've taken the next step if we were able to trade for Kyrie.


The Chucker Play No Defense Guard Fan Club is disappointed. :cry:

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Post#739 » by Nowak008 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:18 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Nowak008 wrote:
Max Green wrote:Disappointed.

We've could've taken the next step if we were able to trade for Kyrie.


The Chucker Play No Defense Guard Fan Club is disappointed. :cry:

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Re: ATL - Kyrie trade - Cav's approve trade - pg 35 

Post#740 » by Ron Swanson » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:18 am

Nowak008 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:I blame John Hammond.


Good call. If we had more assets, we wouldn't have to gut the entire team to acquire Kyrie.


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