2024 NBA Draft Thread - June 26/27

[M-C-G]

I’d really like Ryan Dunn type defender on this team. Just might have to lock him in the gym to work on corner 3s all season.

[BUCKnation]

FWIW if Shannon's not a bad person, he's probably a very good pick. Lot like Norm Powell, but a better ball handler, and a blur in the open floor.

He’s like a smaller giannis in any form of transition.

Outside of Edey in the tournament, he was pretty easily the best guy i actually watched last season.

[ShootingtheJ]

FWIW if Shannon's not a bad person, he's probably a very good pick. Lot like Norm Powell, but a better ball handler, and a blur in the open floor.

He’s like a smaller giannis in any form of transition.

Outside of Edey in the tournament, he was pretty easily the best guy i actually watched last season.

Yeah, he fits the NBA perfectly. Dangerous scorer.

[ShootingtheJ]

I’d really like Ryan Dunn type defender on this team. Just might have to lock him in the gym to work on corner 3s all season.

I'm super encouraged by the progress AJJ made, hope Dunn can do close to the same. Dunn is an awesome lob catcher and finisher, and he beats his man easily when he attacks off the dribble, so I'd like to see him play outside of Virginia's offense. I think he's more than a Roberson.

[German Athens]

Trade 23 for 34, 40 and something else of value.

Draft Dunn, Shannon, and the best big available.

[ShootingtheJ]

Yea, the only 1st rd pick from Horst that could constitute playing it safe was Donte. And he's a borderline core player now, who was a meaningful contributor to a contender immediately. Lively's in the finals now. So talk about revisionist history.

Going back to that Donte case, it kind of reinforces it's a false dichotomy the pick needs to be 12 like Thon was, or he doesn't have core upside. Why doesn't Holmes have realistic core upside? He's a threat in any area on the court & you can run it thru him in the post. He's got more core upside than Chomche AND is better now. Two birds, one stone, instead of no stones, no birds.

It's often a false dichotomy of help now or later. We can look case-by-case, & be more nuanced. That would entail acknowledging the reality the landscape is different this year due to circumstance. You have more good older guys because of covid, NIL, & transfers from smaller colleges because they can play right away under new rules. Knecht goes from fringe prospect to top 10.

The more I look at Holmes, the more I like him. Watching him with Dayton, I was unimpressed with him as a rim protector. However, looking at his defensive stats when he's matched up in switches, and you see his real value. Truly a switchable big, which is far more valuable in the playoffs.

Offensively, he was stuck in the post a ton, which is difficult with his build. He's only 235 pounds with narrow hips, that's not traditionally a post guy, even though he was good at it.

Now the interesting thing about him is the few possessions he wasn't posting. Great small sample numbers as both a pick and roll roller, fader, and even ball handler. Beats his man easily when he faces up and attacks off the dribble.

Dayton didn't have any other pro talent, super impressive that he dragged that team as fast as he did.

He's a hidden gem hidden in plain sight.

[ShootingtheJ]

Trade 23 for 34, 40 and something else of value.

Draft Dunn, Shannon, and the best big available.

Based on the deals of the last few drafts, we'd likely be able to get 29 and 32 for 23.

I'd be afraid to move down and miss Holmes though. Landing those 3 would be a home run

[ShootingtheJ]

Trade 23 for 34, 40 and something else of value.

Draft Dunn, Shannon, and the best big available.

Based on the deals of the last few drafts, we'd likely be able to get 29 and 32 for 23.

I'd be afraid to move down and miss Holmes though. Landing those 3 would be a home run

Some past examples include in 2022 #19 was dealt for #22 & #29, and in 2023, #31 was dealt for #34 & #39.

[Bernman]

How high could we get for 33 & Beauchamp? I think that's the better question. We need more real 1sts not less, for swings.

Ideally we'd get one immediately before or after our own to not have to sweat the other guy falling. PHX selects 22nd & Bud could have an affinity for Beauchamp. Right after NYK has their own consecutive picks. Might not want both guaranteed.

W/ the picks, I'd be looking for a quality big like Holmes (maybe Edey) & then a high upside perimeter player such as Carrington, Djurisic, or Shannon (if we're satisfied w/ his innocence). I'd draft Da Silva, but looks very unlikely to be there anymore.

[ShootingtheJ]

How high could we get for 33 & Beauchamp? I think that's the better question. We need more real 1sts not less, for swings.

Ideally we'd get one immediately before or after our own to not have to sweat the other guy falling. PHX selects 22nd & Bud could have an affinity for Beauchamp. Right after NYK has their own consecutive picks. Might not want both guaranteed.

W/ the picks, I'd be looking for a quality big like Holmes (maybe Edey) & then a high upside perimeter player such as Carrington, Djurisic, or Shannon (if we're satisfied w/ his innocence). I'd draft Da Silva, but looks very unlikely to be there anymore.

There's going to be good players available at the top of the 2nd round, and they get $1.1 million 1st year contracts. Those will help us dodge the 2nd apron. Get another early 2nd.

Marjon could be exactly what we need, don't bail on him too early.

[yb90]

Are there any Andrew Nemhard/Brogdon type guards in this draft that can come in playing 25+ minutes a night at the top of the 2nd rd?

[ShootingtheJ]

Are there any Andrew Nemhard/Brogdon type guards in this draft that can come in playing 25+ minutes a night at the top of the 2nd rd?

Totally different player, but Terrence Shannon is that guy. Experienced attack off the bounce scorer. There's just the other questions with him.

[yb90]

Are there any Andrew Nemhard/Brogdon type guards in this draft that can come in playing 25+ minutes a night at the top of the 2nd rd?

Totally different player, but Terrence Shannon is that guy. Experienced attack off the bounce scorer. There's just the other questions with him.

If this is out of character and the evidence shows that another person who has past cases was there in the club that night in the area of the young Lady where she described where the alleged assault happened then Shannon is a good pick at 33.

Having said the above if that's the kind of player the Bucks want I would still do my research on Porter Jr and pick him up on a team friendly deal. He is only a few months older than Shannon with actual evidence of nba ability.

[midranger]

How high could we get for 33 & Beauchamp? I think that's the better question. We need more real 1sts not less, for swings.

31?

I’m uncertain if he’s a very slight positive or his salary is a frank negative to teams.

[midranger]

Are there any Andrew Nemhard/Brogdon type guards in this draft that can come in playing 25+ minutes a night at the top of the 2nd rd?

Totally different player, but Terrence Shannon is that guy. Experienced attack off the bounce scorer. There's just the other questions with him.

If this is out of character and the evidence shows that another person who has past cases was there in the club that night in the area of the young Lady where she described where the alleged assault happened then Shannon is a good pick at 33.

Having said the above if that's the kind of player the Bucks want I would still do my research on Porter Jr and pick him up on a team friendly deal. He is only a few months older than Shannon with actual evidence of nba ability.

JFC. Porter Jr? Is he not in jail?

[yb90]

Totally different player, but Terrence Shannon is that guy. Experienced attack off the bounce scorer. There's just the other questions with him.

If this is out of character and the evidence shows that another person who has past cases was there in the club that night in the area of the young Lady where she described where the alleged assault happened then Shannon is a good pick at 33.

Having said the above if that's the kind of player the Bucks want I would still do my research on Porter Jr and pick him up on a team friendly deal. He is only a few months older than Shannon with actual evidence of nba ability.

JFC. Porter Jr? Is he not in jail?

Kevin Porter Jr played in Greece for Paok

[midranger]

If this is out of character and the evidence shows that another person who has past cases was there in the club that night in the area of the young Lady where she described where the alleged assault happened then Shannon is a good pick at 33.

Having said the above if that's the kind of player the Bucks want I would still do my research on Porter Jr and pick him up on a team friendly deal. He is only a few months older than Shannon with actual evidence of nba ability.

JFC. Porter Jr? Is he not in jail?

Kevin Porter Jr played in Greece for Paok

He can stay there.

[Frank Nova]

Tristen Newton and Dillon Jones feel like 2 instant impact guys that I hope we are targeting at 33.

[yb90]

JFC. Porter Jr? Is he not in jail?

Kevin Porter Jr played in Greece for Paok

He can stay there.

I definitely understand that stance but that's why if I was the Bucks I would need to research if what his former girlfriend proclaimed about the NYPD exaggerating the charges.

[Bernman]

There's going to be good players available at the top of the 2nd round, and they get $1.1 million 1st year contracts. Those will help us dodge the 2nd apron. Get another early 2nd.

You're talking in the hundreds of thousands in salary. It makes little difference, especially compared to trading one or two of the bigger contracts. Long-term it's going to help a lot more in that regard if the guys a starter on a cheap contract. I like the guys projected mid 20's quite a bit more when it comes to having a realistic shot at being a core player.

Marjon could be exactly what we need, don't bail on him too early.

Can't bail on a guy I was never a fan of in the 1st place, and he's only hurt his case since then. The outside shot looks good. Besides that? Let him be someone else's role player dice roll.