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[machu46]

Feel like you should adjust the metric if those are the results.

Well it isn't saying anything about whether or not they defended them well. All it says is that when Andre played, he defended the other teams best player, which, duh, it's the only reason he was on the court.

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[Frank Nova]

Ajax will just be starting his third season.

I haven’t given up on him.

He needs to decrease the defensive lapses, finish at least a bit better in traffic, and keep working on his shot.

Bucks absolutely could use a hyper athletic wing. Idk what happened where Doc went from force feeding him minutes over GTJ and everyone else to being glued to the end of the bench but hopefully he earns another shot.

Far from any sort of consistency but there were moments last season Jackson Jr. looked the part of a disruptive defender and high energy athlete. If he can just become more Pj Tucker-ish and less Dan Gadzuric he can have a meaningful and positive role on the team.

[German Athens]

I’d like to see us incorporate more wheel elements in our offense this year, copying Memphis.

Moving the direction of the drive makes way more sense to sense to me than standing in a box. Ultimately, all the boxes will get filled, but the defense has to remain engaged off-ball, because their primary assignment isn’t stationary.

[German Athens]

Cam Johnson feels like the easiest fit and trade to make. I’d absolutely love him here, but I just wish he was a little healthier and not about to turn 30.

If we could break up the ‘31 1st into 3 1sts, and use 2 on him, that would be great.

[Frank Nova]

I’d like to see us incorporate more wheel elements in our offense this year, copying Memphis.

Moving the direction of the drive makes way more sense to sense to me than standing in a box. Ultimately, all the boxes will get filled, but the defense has to remain engaged off-ball, because their primary assignment isn’t stationary.

Any sorta of movement besides dribble handoff picks would be welcomed with open arms. Doc and company have zero imagination running an offense.

[German Athens]

I’d like to see us incorporate more wheel elements in our offense this year, copying Memphis.

Moving the direction of the drive makes way more sense to sense to me than standing in a box. Ultimately, all the boxes will get filled, but the defense has to remain engaged off-ball, because their primary assignment isn’t stationary.

Any sorta of movement besides dribble handoff picks would be welcomed with open arms. Doc and company have zero imagination running an offense.

I don’t mind dribble handoffs, but ideally the player who’s coming around the screen can shoot or curl and get to the rim.

Theoretically, that’s why Kuzma would be useful. Outside him, we don’t really have an athletic wing with size. Honestly, Pat might be our best wing player at doing what we’d need those plays to be. He’s an assertive driver, and makes quick decisions.

Offenses should incorporate elements of all sorts of different styles (“play random”), and not just be one thing. We didn’t do many dribble handoffs under Bud, and then it felt like it was something we did every possession under Doc. Can we just move the sliders to somewhere in the middle for once?

[Frank Nova]

I’d like to see us incorporate more wheel elements in our offense this year, copying Memphis.

Moving the direction of the drive makes way more sense to sense to me than standing in a box. Ultimately, all the boxes will get filled, but the defense has to remain engaged off-ball, because their primary assignment isn’t stationary.

Any sorta of movement besides dribble handoff picks would be welcomed with open arms. Doc and company have zero imagination running an offense.

I don’t mind dribble handoffs, but ideally the player who’s coming around the screen can shoot or curl and get to the rim.

Theoretically, that’s why Kuzma would be useful. Outside him, we don’t really have an athletic wing with size. Honestly, Pat might be our best wing player at doing what we’d need those plays to be. He’s an assertive driver, and makes quick decisions.

Offenses should incorporate elements of all sorts of different styles (“play random”), and not just be one thing. We didn’t do many dribble handoffs under Bud, and then it felt like it was something we did every possession under Doc. Can we just move the sliders to somewhere in the middle for once?

Yeah I agree. I didn’t mean I had a problem with DHOs, that just seems to be the only semblance of movement to the offense. Cutting to the basket as an off ball player is non existent because Giannis has the ball and you’re theoretically just “in the way”. All the movement comes from the ball handler and around the perimeter and it’s always minimal at best. That’s why dudes are constantly standing around waiting to see what Giannis is about to do. I mean it’s Giannis so it makes sense but with just a little more creativity in designed movement, we could get better looks at the rim from all 3 levels. It’s 5 out motion every time down the floor unless Giannis runs a DHO for a quick 3, that’s the entire offense and it’s lazy and unimaginative as can be.

[German Athens]

Does anyone know what’s wrong with the nba play type data? All of a sudden, Giannis isn’t on the list for transition which is clearly wrong. He probably had 6 possessions per game.

[machu46]

Does anyone know what’s wrong with the nba play type data? All of a sudden, Giannis isn’t on the list for transition which is clearly wrong. He probably had 6 possessions per game.

Are you filtering on playoffs instead of regular season? It defaults to playoffs I believe.

Otherwise no idea. I've noticed players missing from their data in the past as well.

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[buckboy]

I don't think there's any way to judge whether the Giannis-Dame pairing really couldn't work. We never had a good coach to try it.

i think it's more accurate to say that injuries were the biggest factor in them not realizing their potential as teammates. even with Dame taking a step down from his peak, and even with Doc at the helm, just having those guys being able to do their thing at the same time would have been awesome. The Dame we got in the playoffs before he got hurt again was not Dame. We saw the real Dame last playoffs.

oh well. there's really nothing to say about it anymore but oh well.

The main takeaway from the last three playoffs is injuries. Giannis missing two of them and Dame missing a substantial amount and obviously Middleton.

Some think that the main lesson is that the Bucks need to get younger and more athletic? I don't think so, unless those young and athletic guys are also good basketbal players.

Both on this site and in Horst's comments the word athleticism is a constant. It got us AJJ and AJ Johnson and Kuzma. The least athletic of the AJs looks like he might be the best one.

**4. The Bucks repeat if Middleton doesn't miss the playoffs.

[paulpressey25]

Been reading this thread for a month now. Still haven’t seen any trade ideas or FA signings that are both realistic and move the needle.

[engelmartin]

Apparently the pelicans are gauging interest for everyone on their roster? I’d love Jose Alvarado, especially for cheap. It seems like every playoff team has that little sparkplug guard now (McConnell, Pritchard, Caruso, etc). Well and the fact we haven’t had an actual backup point guard in like a decade unless you count Delon Wright/Cam Payne (putrid)

[KidA24]

Apparently the pelicans are gauging interest for everyone on their roster? I’d love Jose Alvarado, especially for cheap. It seems like every playoff team has that little sparkplug guard now (McConnell, Pritchard, Caruso, etc). Well and the fact we haven’t had an actual backup point guard in like a decade unless you count Delon Wright/Cam Payne (putrid)

[Bernman]

I saw our friendly regular visitor post this on the general board:

Giannis is stringing this alone to put pressure on the Bucks front office. Giannis is staying in Milwaukee.

Put pressure on them to do what exactly?

Exactly.

Upgrade their team how exactly? They have possibly the worst trade assets in the league.

[engelmartin]

Apparently the pelicans are gauging interest for everyone on their roster? I’d love Jose Alvarado, especially for cheap. It seems like every playoff team has that little sparkplug guard now (McConnell, Pritchard, Caruso, etc). Well and the fact we haven’t had an actual backup point guard in like a decade unless you count Delon Wright/Cam Payne (putrid)

Those were the days

[BigO]

Apparently the pelicans are gauging interest for everyone on their roster? I’d love Jose Alvarado, especially for cheap. It seems like every playoff team has that little sparkplug guard now (McConnell, Pritchard, Caruso, etc). Well and the fact we haven’t had an actual backup point guard in like a decade unless you count Delon Wright/Cam Payne (putrid)

In terms of moving the needle, Pritchard, Alvarez and McConnelll don't move the needle (unless they're playing the Bucks). Caruso does move the needle and he doesn't come cheap.

I'd love the Bucks to get the kid from Gonzaga, Ryan Nembhardt,the brother of the Pacers guard, Andrew Nembhardt.

He's an Alvarez type player, except with more skill. Not a needle mover, but as a late second rounder or undrafted free agent, he'd be good.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Been reading this thread for a month now. Still haven’t seen any trade ideas or FA signings that are both realistic and move the needle.

we went from a .500ish ballclub..... to the top record in the league in one year.... bud with the likes of lopez, patc, hill and ersan showed up and a lightbulb went on.

thats basically what we need to be focused on imo. a system change with a couple key guys that can implement that system....and then the right addition by subtraction with the rest of the roster.

thats my take anyway. its not like trading for dame did more favors than that offseason did

[machu46]

Been reading this thread for a month now. Still haven’t seen any trade ideas or FA signings that are both realistic and move the needle.

Realistically I don't think we're really capable of making a move that clearly moves the needle. More likely we have to hope an addition is better than expected. Like when we originally got Brook and he blossomed into a huge difference maker for example.

Like this year, I feel like someone like Tre Jones could potentially be a really nice pickup for us but if we were to sign him, certainly nobody would be like "Wow, watch out for the Bucks!"

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[LUKE23]

we went from a .500ish ballclub..... to the top record in the league in one year.... bud with the likes of lopez, patc, hill and ersan showed up and a lightbulb went on.

thats basically what we need to be focused on imo. a system change with a couple key guys that can implement that system....and then the right addition by subtraction with the rest of the roster.

thats my take anyway. its not like trading for dame did more favors than that offseason did

Umm, that team had a prime Middleton, and their non-superstars were much younger, with a much better coach. This situation is nothing like that. Dame and Kuzma are negative assets this offseason. Smith, Livingston, Ajax are nothing as of now. Green is only young guy that is a net positive play.

It's just a way different situation and a lot more is needed to be added than in any prior season with prime GA.

[Bernman]

we went from a .500ish ballclub..... to the top record in the league in one year.... bud with the likes of lopez, patc, hill and ersan showed up and a lightbulb went on.

thats basically what we need to be focused on imo. a system change with a couple key guys that can implement that system....and then the right addition by subtraction with the rest of the roster.

thats my take anyway. its not like trading for dame did more favors than that offseason did

Umm, that team had a prime Middleton, and their non-superstars were much younger, with a much better coach. This situation is nothing like that. Dame and Kuzma are negative assets this offseason. Smith, Livingston, Ajax are nothing as of now. Green is only young guy that is a net positive play.

It's just a way different situation and a lot more is needed to be added than in any prior season with prime GA.

They had Middleton the prior season too, and he played all 82 games.

Outside Giannis, the only "young" player we could have banked on significant improvement for, or we got, was from Brogdon. DiVo was a rook, & bit player. This yr, if we retained guys, we'd have Rollins, KPJ, Green, & Sims.

And we actually have substantially more resources in FA possessing the non tax MLE. So there's similar, albeit maybe not the same room for growth, so long as we can Doc ala Kidd, which is really a choice we can make any time, unlike w/ personnel where we're bound by finite talent & rules.