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Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:53 pm
by Sigra
LUKE23 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think CV/Alexander/Mason's expiring for Prince or RJ is that great of a deal for us if that is indeed what goes down.
Alot of you guys are going to be disappointed come draft night...
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:57 pm
by NeedsMoreCheese
How is it that the one guy that can actually read between the lines and figure out what Wichmae is talking about is the one that isnt a native speaker of English? Im amazed by that.
At least someone picked up on Wichmaes hints nice job Sigra.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 9:59 pm
by xTitan
The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:01 pm
by paulpressey25
Sigra is a brilliant dude. He saw the Michael Redd Godfather thing a year ahead of time.
I can't go all the way back but who was the poster that wichmae quoted and what was his deal?
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:03 pm
by Sigra
xTitan wrote:The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).
and you are the guy that wichmae talked privatly so you know the truth. Deal out it is indeed
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:06 pm
by randy84
xTitan wrote:The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).
I hope you are right. I mean if we have to wait five years for Alexander to develop into a good role player, its going to be a long rebuilding process.
I would prefer to go with Bogut, Yi, Prince, Redd, and Mo, or better yet Bogut, Yi, G.Wallace, Redd and Mo.
I could actually watch those teams.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:07 pm
by Sigra
paulpressey25 wrote:I can't go all the way back but who was the poster that wichmae quoted and what was his deal?
The poster was aaprigs311 and he said this: "Trade Mo/CV for a banger. I think that's our best shot at contending now rather than down the road. I think we've all had enough of the waiting game. I hope whatever trade is made helps us NOW."
wichmae bolded this "I hope whatever trade is made helps us NOW"
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:10 pm
by europa
Trading for a proven vet has been my No. 1 hope for the draft since lotto night. If Ilhan is correct and wichmae is talking about a trade involving the 8th pick and a player like Prince or Jefferson I'm driving the bandwagon there.
Villanueva/8/Dez for Prince/29
All aboard.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:14 pm
by randy84
europa wrote:Trading for a proven vet has been my No. 1 hope for the draft since lotto night. If Ilhan is correct and wichmae is talking about a trade involving the 8th pick and a player like Prince or Jefferson I'm driving the bandwagon there.
Villanueva/8/Dez for Prince/29
All aboard.
Giddyup
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:15 pm
by mcfromage
I'd prefer CV/Dez/8 for RJ/21 then take Speights or Douglas-Roberts at 21.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:17 pm
by europa
mcfromage wrote:I'd prefer CV/Dez/8 for RJ/21 then take Speights or Douglas-Roberts at 21.
I'd prefer Prince because he's significantly better defensively but I'd sign off on this trade as well. Either one would work for me.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:19 pm
by paulpressey25
I'll take Prince over RJ. Healthier and a better defender.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:20 pm
by xTitan
Sigra wrote:xTitan wrote:The Bucks won't trade up...more likely to deal out...that's my prediction;).
and you are the guy that wichmae talked privatly so you know the truth. Deal out it is indeed
Not all of my old people are gone my friend
....actually anything can happen at this point....sooooooo many people want to deal, just a gut feeling that this team needs vets to win and I think Hammond wants to win now......now if everyone likes the deals being bantered about, thats another story.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:25 pm
by Chapter29
Nice posts Sigra!
It will be interesting to look at come Thursday night.
I tend to agree that a trade of our pick and a player is very likely. I have been in favor of that from the get go. Whether its to move up and take a shot at a player or to take an established veteran.
CV, 8 and Mason for Prince? Hmmmm.
At first I was like, duh. Then I thought about it and just for grins took a look at his stats. They really aren't that good. Now I know he is a good player and a great defender, but man that's quite a bit to give up. Not sure. I really like Prince and in the end he is likely the best player in the deal. An ideal fit for us.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:27 pm
by fam3381
mcfromage wrote:I'd prefer CV/Dez/8 for RJ/21 then take Speights or Douglas-Roberts at 21.
I'd be very disappointed if we take on RJ's big contract without dumping any of our bad contracts. That deal's a no-brainer for the Nets IMO, and puts us in the luxury tax in 09/10 probably.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:30 pm
by paulpressey25
I can't see it being Tayshaun. It seems like both guys (Dumars/Hammond) would not necessarily want Hammond's first deal to be with each other. And in the same division. The pick/Dez/Simmons for RJ could be plausible IMO.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:31 pm
by steger_3434
I have mixed feeling on Prince. For one we are beyond horrible at the SF position and Prince is a good defender. On the other hand, though, I think Prince's play is overrated by the team he's on. That team is laced with strong veterans in Billups, Sheed, and McDyss. The team as a whole is good defensive team, which more than likely makes Prince a better defender than he actually is. Put him with this sorry ass team and his D won't seem quite as good.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:32 pm
by europa
I don't think a trade for Prince will happen either. I agree it's unlikely Dumars and Hammond would make a major move like that with one another. But it's fun to dream.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:34 pm
by paulpressey25
I'd really prefer to go after Josh Howard. He can defend and fill it up.
For a trade that would probably tick most everyone off here in some respect one might be Redd/8 for Josh Howard/Stackhouse/Brandon Bass.
Re: 06/19 ESPN & DX.com Speculation
Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:35 pm
by xTitan
Hammond has said a couple times he would not feel comfortable dealing with Joe at this point in time and I understand that completely. I also think that Dumars wants to make a big splash if he deals Prince and the Bucks don't have that big splash player.