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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#762 » by GoBrewersGo » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:23 pm

I hope the team will release more renderings of the playing area/seating bowl. The lone one they've released just looks like a typical, ho-hum arena. Supposedly the game viewing experience will be significantly better. The upper-deck/nose-bleeds look smaller and there are more seats in the lower bowl than the BC too. Peter Feigin said it would have an Indiana type of game viewing experience. To me, it's hard to tell from that lone photo. Indiana's arena has the coolest looking bowl. Still excited about the new arena though. Just hope they release more playing area photos. Everything else about the arena looks cool! Can't wait until Saturday!
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#763 » by MKEGrinders » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:41 pm

Paul Retweeted about a press conference between the Bucks and Milwaukee Tool tomorrow... Naming Rights perhaps? I think it makes sense for whoever buys the rights that they will want it all over on Saturday.
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Post#764 » by EastSideBucksFan » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:11 pm

MKEGrinders wrote:Paul Retweeted about a press conference between the Bucks and Milwaukee Tool tomorrow... Naming Rights perhaps? I think it makes sense for whoever buys the rights that they will want it all over on Saturday.



Milwaukee Tool doesn't have the money.

I'm going to guess an exclusivity deal for the tools used to build the arena.

I think MillerCoors and Potowotami are still the leaderboard on naming rights.
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#765 » by MKEGrinders » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:19 pm

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MKEGrinders wrote:Paul Retweeted about a press conference between the Bucks and Milwaukee Tool tomorrow... Naming Rights perhaps? I think it makes sense for whoever buys the rights that they will want it all over on Saturday.



Milwaukee Tool doesn't have the money.

I'm going to guess an exclusivity deal for the tools used to build the arena.

I think MillerCoors and Potowotami are still the leaderboard on naming rights.


Thanks for the response. Just thought it would have been good timing before the groundbreaking. Suprised whoever buys the rights didn't have it done before Saturday.
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#766 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:28 pm

I believe the Bucks have said they hope to announce naming rights by the end of the year. Of course it could happen sooner.
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Re: New Arena Design and Construction -Groundbreaking Details - Pg 38 

Post#767 » by GoBrewersGo » Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:40 pm

On Milwaukee Tool's wikipedia page, it says they are owned by a billion dollar investment company called Techtronic, based out of Hong Kong.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Electric_Tool_Corporation

Would that be enough to fund an arena's naming rights? I have no clue. I would guess the same that they are supplying the tools used to build the arena.
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Post#770 » by CountMe3Outs » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:44 am

I think we have much to look forward to in the new "Bucks" arena, particularly with regard to seating comfort and geometry. It may prove to be a venue people will actually want to return to, rather than merely tolerate due to lack of alternatives.

Recent Populous arena designs have straight seating sections along length of the basketball court sidelines, with the end seating zones focused on the center baselines. This is a vast improvement in seating geometry over the "extended octagon" configuration of the Bradley Center, where in many areas the seats are aimed far off-court. There will also be a maximum concentration of seats close to the playing floor (INTIMACY), as the seating is "top-loaded", as in many theaters. Also, expanding the lower bowl outward allows the pitch of the upper seating to be relaxed, with comparable sightlines.

Based on Feigin's revelation that the new arena willl be about 30 feet shorter than the BC (or about 415 feet), and assuming end-zones are indeed focused on the mid-baselines, could mean seating rows spaced 33-34 inches in the upper section (compared with 31-32 inches in the BC), and lower bowl seating rows spaced 34-35 inches (compared to less than 34 inches in the BC) :D .

Unlike the "basketball-centric, short-octagon" arenas (Indiana, Phoenix, San Antonio, Brooklyn) the Poulous configuration affords good seating angles for a variety of small-floor as well as long-floor events. The new arena's geometry wll be as good as (or better) as the optimal "elliptical" configuration used in Madison Square Garden and the L.A. Forum (now a prime concert venue).

I do appreciate the Pettt's gift to the community, but we should indeed be much better off (less neck strain and better circulation in our lower extremities) in the new venue. I am not directtly involved with the design, but I do follow details of these facilties closely. This time, we will not regret the outcome.
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Post#771 » by Zeezprah » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:48 am

i don't understand why the potowatomi would want to waste their money on naming rights. legal gambling really doesn't need a ton of advertising for the most part (especially when it's not in vegas where's there's competition next door). don't see why they'd spend all the money; ROI isn't there imo.

still think northwestern mutual and bmo harris will be there til the end. will be interesting.

kind of weird they've limited it to local places though. like for naming rights? just get who gives you the most money within the league guidelines. still think there's companies with deeper pockets overseas who'd be interesting in getting their name plastered on the court of only 1 of 30 nba teams. especially an up and coming one.
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Post#772 » by 0BobLobLaw0 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:15 am

Zeezprah wrote:i don't understand why the potowatomi would want to waste their money on naming rights. legal gambling really doesn't need a ton of advertising for the most part (especially when it's not in vegas where's there's competition next door). don't see why they'd spend all the money; ROI isn't there imo.

still think northwestern mutual and bmo harris will be there til the end. will be interesting.

kind of weird they've limited it to local places though. like for naming rights? just get who gives you the most money within the league guidelines. still think there's companies with deeper pockets overseas who'd be interesting in getting their name plastered on the court of only 1 of 30 nba teams. especially an up and coming one.


NM have already said they have no interest and they're out.


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Post#773 » by MKEGrinders » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:39 pm

"Milwaukee Tool Construction Site" LOL
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Post#774 » by trwi7 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:13 pm

So they bought naming rights for the construction site? Are they (Please Use More Appropriate Word)?
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Post#775 » by mcfromage » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:44 pm

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Post#776 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:52 pm

Naming rights for the construction site. Love it
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Post#777 » by Aaron It Out » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:07 pm

CountMe3Outs wrote:I think we have much to look forward to in the new "Bucks" arena, particularly with regard to seating comfort and geometry. It may prove to be a venue people will actually want to return to, rather than merely tolerate due to lack of alternatives.

Recent Populous arena designs have straight seating sections along length of the basketball court sidelines, with the end seating zones focused on the center baselines. This is a vast improvement in seating geometry over the "extended octagon" configuration of the Bradley Center, where in many areas the seats are aimed far off-court. There will also be a maximum concentration of seats close to the playing floor (INTIMACY), as the seating is "top-loaded", as in many theaters. Also, expanding the lower bowl outward allows the pitch of the upper seating to be relaxed, with comparable sightlines.

Based on Feigin's revelation that the new arena willl be about 30 feet shorter than the BC (or about 415 feet), and assuming end-zones are indeed focused on the mid-baselines, could mean seating rows spaced 33-34 inches in the upper section (compared with 31-32 inches in the BC), and lower bowl seating rows spaced 34-35 inches (compared to less than 34 inches in the BC) :D .

Unlike the "basketball-centric, short-octagon" arenas (Indiana, Phoenix, San Antonio, Brooklyn) the Poulous configuration affords good seating angles for a variety of small-floor as well as long-floor events. The new arena's geometry wll be as good as (or better) as the optimal "elliptical" configuration used in Madison Square Garden and the L.A. Forum (now a prime concert venue).

I do appreciate the Pettt's gift to the community, but we should indeed be much better off (less neck strain and better circulation in our lower extremities) in the new venue. I am not directtly involved with the design, but I do follow details of these facilties closely. This time, we will not regret the outcome.


Great post, thanks for the info. If you're following the development of this arena closely then I'd be very interested in any little tidbits you learn.
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Post#778 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:05 am

trwi7 wrote:So they bought naming rights for the construction site? Are they (Please Use More Appropriate Word)?


So you are blindly criticizing a successful local tool company for taking an opportunity to be a partner with the most publicized construction project in the last decade without having any idea if they paid 10k or 10m? And they are the (Please Use More Appropriate Word) ones?


This thing is going to take a while to be built, will have a ton of news stories associated with it and takes up a huge part of downtown. For the right price I think it's a great idea. Wonder if the Bucks hold off announcing naming rights as part of this agreement. Since there isn't a naming rights sponsor right now, the media will probably reference the construction site name.
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Post#779 » by LittleRooster » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:52 am

CountMe3Outs wrote:I think we have much to look forward to in the new "Bucks" arena, particularly with regard to seating comfort and geometry. It may prove to be a venue people will actually want to return to, rather than merely tolerate due to lack of alternatives.

Recent Populous arena designs have straight seating sections along length of the basketball court sidelines, with the end seating zones focused on the center baselines. This is a vast improvement in seating geometry over the "extended octagon" configuration of the Bradley Center, where in many areas the seats are aimed far off-court. There will also be a maximum concentration of seats close to the playing floor (INTIMACY), as the seating is "top-loaded", as in many theaters. Also, expanding the lower bowl outward allows the pitch of the upper seating to be relaxed, with comparable sightlines.

Based on Feigin's revelation that the new arena willl be about 30 feet shorter than the BC (or about 415 feet), and assuming end-zones are indeed focused on the mid-baselines, could mean seating rows spaced 33-34 inches in the upper section (compared with 31-32 inches in the BC), and lower bowl seating rows spaced 34-35 inches (compared to less than 34 inches in the BC) :D .

Unlike the "basketball-centric, short-octagon" arenas (Indiana, Phoenix, San Antonio, Brooklyn) the Poulous configuration affords good seating angles for a variety of small-floor as well as long-floor events. The new arena's geometry wll be as good as (or better) as the optimal "elliptical" configuration used in Madison Square Garden and the L.A. Forum (now a prime concert venue).

I do appreciate the Pettt's gift to the community, but we should indeed be much better off (less neck strain and better circulation in our lower extremities) in the new venue. I am not directtly involved with the design, but I do follow details of these facilties closely. This time, we will not regret the outcome.


Awesome post, I appreciate all the detail. I think I was more concerned with leg room since, as you noted, it's cramped. Would you have the figures on the Bradley Center leg room vs. potential new arena--if there exists such numbers?
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Post#780 » by CountMe3Outs » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:51 pm

Awesome post, I appreciate all the detail. I think I was more concerned with leg room since, as you noted, it's cramped. Would you have the figures on the Bradley Center leg room vs. potential new arena--if there exists such numbers?


My in-situ measurements (with ushers wondering what I was doing) on BC row spacing were 31.5 inches between rows (upper section) and 33.5 inches in the lower section.

Saturday, June 18th's groundbreaking presents a PRIME opportunity for someone to ask Bucks officials what the
actual row spacings will be in the new arena.

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