Bucks Trade Ideas Thread 2018

[paulpressey25]

As we focus on the CHA trades think we need to keep in mind that the Hornets goal will be getting the 8th seed this year. They are exactly like Kohl, hence in position for us to take advantage of it.

Under that rubric, they probably aren't giving up Kemba, Dwight, Lamb or MKG since those guys are main cogs. I'd also assume they like Zeller and aren't giving him away either despite injury.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHO/2018.html

Other main cogs: Marvin Williams has slipped and his contract is awful. Batum has slipped and his contract is awful.

Feels to me like you'd have to give up Brogdon or Middleton to get them to bite in order to get Monk in some package.

[DingleJerry]

KOQ or Willy from the Knicks using our exceptions is really all they need to fill the gap at the 5. Toss them a 2nd or Wilson, whatever thing like that they need. They don't even play Willy, shouldn't cost much. Don't need to some massive overhaul trade.

[Badgerlander]

Everyone here literally complains about anyone but Giannis in isolation. If you're 6'3 with a poor wingspan, you have very little positional versatility. If you have little positional versatility, you either should be A) a good defender at that position and a knockdown shooter or B) a dynamic shot creator off the dribble (note that attacking a close out with one or two dribbles does not classify as "dynamic" IMO). Monk is neither.

I mean sure if we are talking ideal player then yeah I want the pie in the sky ideal guy that we dont have the assets to get so its pointless even talking about. We are talking swapping failed lotto picks here. Monk can do most of what Middleton can do around the arc and is a better 3pt shooter off the dribble which we havent had since Knight. With guys like Giannis, Jabari, and Bledsoe attacking the paint, adding another guy that can shoot long 2s and 3s would be great.

Middleton
3-10 .451
10-16 .524
16 < 3.489
3 .341

Monk
3-10 .400
10-16 .313
16 < 3 .225
3 .339

Monk provides slightly better shooting off the dribble from deep (a bad shot), sure, but those gains don't offset the dramatic disparity before overall shooting percentages. You're not adding a guy who can shoot long 2s and 3s. You're swapping out a guy who's better at it to one who's worse.

EDIT: This is all with regards to a Middleton centric proposal. Your Snell/Henson/Thon for Zeller/Monk/MKG is the definition of pipe dream.

Monk showed that he could do it in college as I pointed out with the shot charts, but sure he hasnt shown it yet in the NBA. Trading MIddleton is lunacy.

[ReasonablySober]

As we focus on the CHA trades think we need to keep in mind that the Hornets goal will be getting the 8th seed this year. They are exactly like Kohl, hence in position for us to take advantage of it.

Under that rubric, they probably aren't giving up Kemba, Dwight, Lamb or MKG since those guys are main cogs. I'd also assume they like Zeller and aren't giving him away either despite injury.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHO/2018.html

Other main cogs: Marvin Williams has slipped and his contract is awful. Batum has slipped and his contract is awful.

Feels to me like you'd have to give up Brogdon or Middleton to get them to bite in order to get Monk in some package.

Did you even read the Woj report? They're in sell mode.

[DingleJerry]

Kemba on that cheap contract should be attractive to someone. Spurs need a new PG long term. Cavs of course need a PG. Give them IT back and whatever else

[humanrefutation]

I like MKG as a defensive presence off of the bench. Dwight is still a very good defender and rebounder - Telly/Delly/Thon for Dwight works for me.

[Siefer]

Would love MKG, especially if we played him in small ball lineups. See if we can get him for Thon, Delly, and a 2nd.

[PG Graveyard]

Dwight belongs on this bucks team. I’m starting to feel ok about it. At the very least he wouldn’t get pushed around and embarrassed like our current center rotation.

[Chapter29]

All this team needs is to stop playing Thon and Delly, imo these trades involving Bledsoe or Middleton (unless it's in a package for a legit star) are unnecessary. Just need a backup C, get Jabari back, and stop playing Delly entirely.

This is 100% correct for now.

We probably need a legit star to win it all, but for right now get a backup C so that Maker can sit and lets see what Parker brings to the table.

Stop playing Maker and Delly all together.

[engelmartin]

All this team needs is to stop playing Thon and Delly, imo these trades involving Bledsoe or Middleton (unless it's in a package for a legit star) are unnecessary. Just need a backup C, get Jabari back, and stop playing Delly entirely.

This is 100% correct for now.

We probably need a legit star to win it all, but for right now get a backup C so that Maker can sit and lets see what Parker brings to the table.

Stop playing Maker and Delly all together.

We should really bring Munford up already.

[paulpressey25]

Did you even read the Woj report? They're in sell mode.

I read a different report this morning from a guy in CHA who said MJ might buy.

[ReasonablySober]

Trust Woj.

[emunney]

I think you can put the two together and conclude that they're looking for a deal and will move where the wind blows them.

[Triple 7]

I'm hesitant to make any deals that will extend Kidd's leash. Say they make a move. Whether they improve or don't for the remainder of the season, Kidd still gets more leash next year in a, "Let's see what he can do with these new pieces, after some time to gel," type of situation.

[raferfenix]

Surprised to see MKG is only 24.

Can he rebound?

Maybe we just move Giannis to center and run with a Jabari / MKG / Giannis frontline.

If Monk is part of the cost for us taking on MKG's contract we gain a shooter too (depending on who else goes out of course). If MKG is taking Henson's minutes it's not like we'd be losing a shooter either.

[jr lucosa]

I look at the Hornets situation, them being 18-25 with an overly veteran team, not many pieces with upside, most the team in their prime or on the way down.

That's a bleak situation to be buying from even for MJ, but who knows.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Did you even read the Woj report? They're in sell mode.

I read a different report this morning from a guy in CHA who said MJ might buy.

bonnells article yesterday?

[leroyjw10]

I look at the Hornets situation, them being 18-25 with an overly veteran team, not many pieces with upside, most the team in their prime or on the way down.

That's a bleak situation to be buying from even for MJ, but who knows.

Right? We've got a bad situation, but $23M per for Howard, $22M per for Batum, $13M per for Williams and $13M per for MKG? Yowza.

[paulpressey25]

bonnells article yesterday?

Yes and there also was a CHA blogger who analyzed the last five trade deadlines. Can't find the piece right now.

They're like Kohl. Will do whatever moves them on Feb 7th.

My preference:

a) Small deal for only Monk. Would offer Thon and DJ (both) if that did it.

b) Consider larger deal of Middleton/Delly for Dwight/Monk. Not thrilled with this deal at all, but Delly's contract is toxic and Monk has rookie contract upside. You'd just have to hope Jabari can hit jumpshots. We'd lose floor spacing.

[Ron Swanson]

I'd trade them something for Steve Clifford.