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GoldenAntlers · Post #761 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Sun Oct 29, 2023 9:37 pm

I believe either this season or next will be peak Giannis.

blazza18 · Post #762 » by **blazza18** » Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:23 pm

Fotis spittin’ some truths

ShootingtheJ · Post #763 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:26 am

Bucksmaniac wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:Maybe wait until after he peaks to talk about his decline.

I’m with those who say he’s nearing the end of his peak due to his best attributes being associated with his athleticism and physical traits. Hopefully he somehow becomes a significantly better shooter the next few years, or changes his game owing to a better basketball IQ.

Players last longer than ever because of the advancements in sports science. Giannis doesn't rely on springs. He's got another 8 years of greatness left. Just look at Lebron.

skones · Post #764 » by **skones** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:54 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Bucksmaniac wrote:
GoldenAntlers wrote:Maybe wait until after he peaks to talk about his decline.

I’m with those who say he’s nearing the end of his peak due to his best attributes being associated with his athleticism and physical traits. Hopefully he somehow becomes a significantly better shooter the next few years, or changes his game owing to a better basketball IQ.

Players last longer than ever because of the advancements in sports science. Giannis doesn't rely on springs. He's got another 8 years of greatness left. Just look at Lebron.

One of the biggest outliers of all time when it comes to age relative to performance, and one of the greatest basketball minds this league has ever seen, is the template everyone will follow because of advancements in sports science?

That's not how it works. Giannis doesn't have the bball IQ and his knees have long needed consistent monitoring. "Just look at Lebron" isn't a thing.

Ron Swanson · Post #765 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:05 pm

Lebron and Tom Brady are the unicorns that shouldn't/can't be emulated, but people also overrate this idea that once Giannis' athleticism declines he's gonna no longer be a superstar. Once the hops aren't quite there, then the "Giannis needs to play more 5" crowd will finally be right. You transition him to the late career Tim Duncan or Admiral role where he'll still be a game-wrecker, just more on defense. Dude's length and coordination aren't gonna suddenly disappear.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #766 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:13 pm

Please tell me our court looks better than this?
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/38772965/how-bold-new-nba-season-tournament-courts-came-fruition

DingleJerry · Post #767 » by **DingleJerry** » Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:18 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Lebron and Tom Brady are the unicorns that shouldn't/can't be emulated, but people also overrate this idea that once Giannis' athleticism declines he's gonna no longer be a superstar. Once the hops aren't quite there, then the "Giannis needs to play more 5" crowd will finally be right. You transition him to the late career Tim Duncan or Admiral role where he'll still be a game-wrecker, just more on defense. Dude's length and coordination aren't gonna suddenly disappear.

Pretty much agree with the overall point here. Nitpick on the "finally" aspect as that's a different discussion.

Lebron proved that it 'could' happen but that doesn't mean anyone should be expecting it from anyone else. As of now he's the complete outlier.

drone3 · Post #768 » by **drone3** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:32 am

Got my eye on Norm Powell.. What would it take

ShootingtheJ · Post #769 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:03 pm

drone3 wrote:Got my eye on Norm Powell.. What would it take

More salary then we can send out right now

chonestown · Post #770 » by **chonestown** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:28 pm

Do you think posting is a portal into an individual's soul?

I grapple with this.

jute2003 · Post #771 » by **jute2003** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:57 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:I believe either this season or next will be peak Giannis.

I think his peak has passed.

Ron Swanson · Post #772 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:13 pm

No idea if Danny Green has anything left in the tank (probably not), but he played for Nurse/Griffin in Toronto during their championship run, so there's some familiarity there. Wouldn't surprise me if they brought him in for a look.

tedbrogen · Post #773 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:58 pm

I’d wave Beasily to get a look at Danny Green but that’s more of my willingness to wave Beasily for anyone because the team would be better giving his minutes to anyone in the roster besides RoLo and maybe Livingston.imo

slos · Post #774 » by **slos** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:25 pm

My guess is that Beasley starts just because he is the most NBA proven player between Marjon/AJJ/Green. But it will not last for long and maybe it's a smart thing not rushing the rookies into the starting lineup. Let them prove themselves first in more limited roles coming from the bench. Having said that I will blame Marjon/AJJ/Green if Beasley ends up starting in the second half of the season too and not coach Griffin. The spot is open for them. They need to earn it.

skones · Post #775 » by **skones** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:31 pm

tedbrogen wrote:I’d wave Beasily to get a look at Danny Green but that’s more of my willingness to wave Beasily for anyone because the team would be better giving his minutes to anyone in the roster besides RoLo and maybe Livingston.imo

Let's just say that torn ACL looks like it's a donezo thing for him.

Dick Tate · Post #776 » by **Dick Tate** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:33 pm

I don't believe the starting SG for the 2024 playoffs is currently on the roster.

tedbrogen · Post #777 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:35 pm

Beasily is third on the team in minutes and killing the team when he is out there. The offense looks stagnant because teams are leaving him open and he isn’t pulling the trigger/hitting wide open threes.

Just force feed those minutes to Marjon, Green, and AJJ immediately and hope one of them can be in the rotation in the playoffs. Because if Beasily is in the rotation in the playoffs, they WILL NOT be winning anything.

Copy this post and bring me my receipts if I am wrong because I am certain Beasily is a bad NBA player.

MVP2110 · Post #778 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:35 pm

slos wrote:My guess is that Beasley starts just because he is the most NBA proven player between Marjon/AJJ/Green. But it will not last for long and maybe it's a smart thing not rushing the rookies into the starting lineup. Let them prove themselves first in more limited roles coming from the bench. Having said that I will blame Marjon/AJJ/Green if Beasley ends up starting in the second half of the season too and not coach Griffin. The spot is open for them. They need to earn it.

If Beas is still starting in the second half of the year and he hasn't significantly improved upon what he's shown so far I will absolutely blame Griffin for that

tedbrogen · Post #779 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:35 pm

skones wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:I’d wave Beasily to get a look at Danny Green but that’s more of my willingness to wave Beasily for anyone because the team would be better giving his minutes to anyone in the roster besides RoLo and maybe Livingston.imo

Let's just say that torn ACL looks like it's a donezo thing for him.

Even better, it’ll get to the phase of force feeding minutes to AJJ sooner so maybe he can be ready for the playoffs.

tedbrogen · Post #780 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:37 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
slos wrote:My guess is that Beasley starts just because he is the most NBA proven player between Marjon/AJJ/Green. But it will not last for long and maybe it's a smart thing not rushing the rookies into the starting lineup. Let them prove themselves first in more limited roles coming from the bench. Having said that I will blame Marjon/AJJ/Green if Beasley ends up starting in the second half of the season too and not coach Griffin. The spot is open for them. They need to earn it.

If Beas is still starting in the second half of the year and he hasn't significantly improved upon what he's shown so far I will absolutely blame Griffin for that

I already blame him for giving Beasily 30+mpg. Someone show me actual NBA stats that support Beasily deserving any minutes.