Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin

[Ron Swanson]

I think at the very least we can put this absurd notion that "Giannis will ask out if you trade his best friend(s)" thing to bed. If/when dude asks for a trade, it'll be because he doesn't think there's a path to contend for championships with this roster, not because his brother and best friend aren't on the team.

Wouldn't trading his best friend and releasing his brother give him more ammo to ask for a trade? These moves matter.

So hold onto Khris' deteriorating body for another couple seasons and waste a roster spot on a 32-year old Thanasis as he rehabs his torn Achilles? You really think that's the best course of action here?

[Wonka]

I think at the very least we can put this absurd notion that "Giannis will ask out if you trade his best friend(s)" thing to bed. If/when dude asks for a trade, it'll be because he doesn't think there's a path to contend for championships with this roster, not because his brother and best friend aren't on the team.

Wouldn't trading his best friend and releasing his brother give him more ammo to ask for a trade? These moves matter.

So hold onto Khris' deteriorating body for another couple seasons and waste a roster spot on a 32-year old Thanasis as he rehabs his torn Achilles? You really think that's the best course of action here?

No no no, absolutely not. I think Giannis might think that though

[soxperry]

He's a 6'9" version of Marjon. PBJ isn't nearly explosive enough and looks like he hasn't found his way into an NBA weight room yet. I guess a 6'9" Marjon is better than a 6'5" Marjon?

Imagine if MarJon were slower, less athletic in any metric, and a worse shooter. There's Baldwin. Solid BBIQ allegedly, I haven't seen it.

The Bucks should strap him into a chair, pry his eyelids open, and force him to watch a 24/7 loop of Kyle Anderson highlights.

I did see Kyle Anderson while watching him. But mostly because he's a weird lookin dude

[Wonka]

I still feel ill

[Bernman]

Khris, 1 way or another, probably ends up on a playoff team, for an expiring contract, & I bet they don't have to attach any asset as significant as AJJo, let alone a 1st rd pick swap to boot. Maybe a 2nd or 2.

Why didn't we just deal directly w/ 1 of those teams, w/ a 3rd bad team whose not in the apron to facilitate? In exchange we could have gotten a flawed player back, who's likely better than Kuzma. Trading the non-expiring to DC meant they'd ask for considerably more. Plus, the alternative way meant Khris couldn't end up on an east rival.

Horst is a terrible trade strategist. Appearing desperate didn't help our return either. He's a minnow in a sea of sharks.

[PG Graveyard]

Khris, 1 way or another, probably ends up on a playoff team, for an expiring contract, & I bet they don't have to attach any asset as significant as AJJo, let alone a 1st rd pick swap to boot. Maybe a 2nd or 2.

Why didn't we just deal directly w/ 1 of those teams, w/ a 3rd bad team whose not in the apron to facilitate? In exchange we could have gotten a flawed player back, who's likely better than Kuzma. Trading the non-expiring to DC meant they'd ask for more. Plus, the alternative way meant Khris couldn't end up on an east rival.

Horst is a terrible trade strategist. Appearing desperate didn't help our return either. He's a minnow in a sea of sharks.

I will take that bet.

[BucksFanSD]

Imagine two years ago trading Middleton for Kuz lmao. This franchise is cooked

This is what the fan base wanted though. No way the fan base would have traded Khris two years ago and Horst knew better than to piss off the fan base. Not to mention Giannis. It is what it is. I got used to this day two years ago so it is not hitting me hard much right now at all.

[Sigra]

Khris, 1 way or another, probably ends up on a playoff team

I dont think so. Khris is done playing serious basketball unfortunatly. He will be tank comander the rest of his contract and then he will be the legend in our stories that we will tell our grandsons.

[tedbrogen]

PBJ only has to be better than Robbins to be of use this season. Super low bar.

[Licensed to Il]

Imagine two years ago trading Middleton for Kuz lmao. This franchise is cooked

This is what the fan base wanted though. No way the fan base would have traded Khris two years ago and Horst knew better than to piss off the fan base. Not to mention Giannis. It is what it is. I got used to this day two years ago so it is not hitting me hard much right now at all.

I mean, I think 2/3 of this board has been pitching Khris trades for the last two seasons.

[Bernman]

Khris, 1 way or another, probably ends up on a playoff team, for an expiring contract, & I bet they don't have to attach any asset as significant as AJJo, let alone a 1st rd pick swap to boot. Maybe a 2nd or 2.

Why didn't we just deal directly w/ 1 of those teams, w/ a 3rd bad team whose not in the apron to facilitate? In exchange we could have gotten a flawed player back, who's likely better than Kuzma. Trading the non-expiring to DC meant they'd ask for more. Plus, the alternative way meant Khris couldn't end up on an east rival.

Horst is a terrible trade strategist. Appearing desperate didn't help our return either. He's a minnow in a sea of sharks.

I will take that bet.

IDK ATM, but it's an incontrovertibly bad process, that doesn't warrant the benefit of the doubt. Don't needlessly overpay & trade players to someone they have (more) negative value to.

We learned from the Lillard-Jrue & Crowder trades Horst doesn't think of this. It's a crucial part of being a GM.

[tedbrogen]

Midds isn’t getting bought out because they’d also have to pay him almost all of his PO for next season.

They’ll keep him as an expiring and then use him in a trade this offseason or next deadline. The team he goes to MIGHT buy him out next season right before the deadline to sign with a contender, if they are out of the playoffs hunt and want to do him a favor. Or the Wiz will buy him out then if they can’t use his salary slot in a trade.

If you’re worried about Midds burning us in the playoffs 15 months from now, I don’t know what to tell you.

[tedbrogen]

Imagine two years ago trading Middleton for Kuz lmao. This franchise is cooked

This is what the fan base wanted though. No way the fan base would have traded Khris two years ago and Horst knew better than to piss off the fan base. Not to mention Giannis. It is what it is. I got used to this day two years ago so it is not hitting me hard much right now at all.

I mean, I think 2/3 of this board has been pitching Khris trades for the last two seasons.

And clearly most of us were overstating his value since they had to attach an asset to move him.

[BucksFanSD]

Imagine two years ago trading Middleton for Kuz lmao. This franchise is cooked

This is what the fan base wanted though. No way the fan base would have traded Khris two years ago and Horst knew better than to piss off the fan base. Not to mention Giannis. It is what it is. I got used to this day two years ago so it is not hitting me hard much right now at all.

I mean, I think 2/3 of this board has been pitching Khris trades for the last two seasons.

This season, post ankle surgeries, not playing, yes. Last season...maybe? I guess time has flown by and it was three years ago I was hoping the Bucks offered Khris to the Kings for a Haliburton package and got almost no support.

[emunney]

Imagine two years ago trading Middleton for Kuz lmao. This franchise is cooked

This is what the fan base wanted though. No way the fan base would have traded Khris two years ago and Horst knew better than to piss off the fan base. Not to mention Giannis. It is what it is. I got used to this day two years ago so it is not hitting me hard much right now at all.

I mean, I think 2/3 of this board has been pitching Khris trades for the last two seasons.

I actually stopped the last two seasons because I felt it was too late. He's been worth to us than anything he could reasonably bring back in a trade. We can hearken back to the days of Middleton for Haliburton though, and the things people said about that idea. (Let's not hearken back to the days of Middleton for Dragan Bender, that would be entirely too much hearkening imo)

[Baddy Chuck]

This sucks.

[yb90]

Khris, 1 way or another, probably ends up on a playoff team, for an expiring contract, & I bet they don't have to attach any asset as significant as AJJo, let alone a 1st rd pick swap to boot. Maybe a 2nd or 2.

Why didn't we just deal directly w/ 1 of those teams, w/ a 3rd bad team whose not in the apron to facilitate? In exchange we could have gotten a flawed player back, who's likely better than Kuzma. Trading the non-expiring to DC meant they'd ask for considerably more. Plus, the alternative way meant Khris couldn't end up on an east rival.

Horst is a terrible trade strategist. Appearing desperate didn't help our return either. He's a minnow in a sea of sharks.

Not this year but this summer or next trade deadline. If he stays healthy he will put up good numbers to start next season similar to how Zach Lavine put up better numbers after a healthy offseason. Khris will never be a high volume guy but he will give you efficient mid volume numbers offensively.

[Matches Malone]

I'm in the depression stage of grief. I can't believe we traded for Kuzma and attached AJ.

[soxperry]

they better play Khris's music every time he hits a shot his first time back

[tedbrogen]

Khris, 1 way or another, probably ends up on a playoff team, for an expiring contract, & I bet they don't have to attach any asset as significant as AJJo, let alone a 1st rd pick swap to boot. Maybe a 2nd or 2.

Why didn't we just deal directly w/ 1 of those teams, w/ a 3rd bad team whose not in the apron to facilitate? In exchange we could have gotten a flawed player back, who's likely better than Kuzma. Trading the non-expiring to DC meant they'd ask for considerably more. Plus, the alternative way meant Khris couldn't end up on an east rival.

Horst is a terrible trade strategist. Appearing desperate didn't help our return either. He's a minnow in a sea of sharks.

Not this year but this summer or next trade deadline. If he stays healthy

Narrator: he won’t