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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#781 » by LuessiT » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:21 pm

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pilprin wrote:I don’t know if MKE keeps the player at 24…but it seems like a top of round 2 pick would be pretty valuable if we can acquire one. Gillispie or Christie…even a Baldwin type could be there. Just feels like this roster could use two young guys and hope one is a rotational guy by mid season


Orlando has 32 and 35. I could see something where we trade back and probably off load a guy like George Hill in the process.


This is a bad idea. Takes away from the tax MLE and you get only 3 years. Picking #30 is so much better than #31 for us for example, even if we were to get the same guy.
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Post#782 » by M-C-G » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:21 pm

Another guy I'd like to see, maybe the shooting % wasn't there this year but has a boatload of skills

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Post#783 » by Badgerlander » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:22 pm

Word is that Tari has been struggling in workouts and we all know how much our team overvalued the private workout. Who knows maybe he slides but there are a few good gms on the clock ahead of us
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#784 » by M-C-G » Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:25 pm

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pilprin wrote:I don’t know if MKE keeps the player at 24…but it seems like a top of round 2 pick would be pretty valuable if we can acquire one. Gillispie or Christie…even a Baldwin type could be there. Just feels like this roster could use two young guys and hope one is a rotational guy by mid season


Orlando has 32 and 35. I could see something where we trade back and probably off load a guy like George Hill in the process.


This is a bad idea. Takes away from the tax MLE and you get only 3 years. Picking #30 is so much better than #31 for us for example, even if we were to get the same guy.


Fair point, I was just thinking John Hammond down there in Orlando loves to wheel and deal. I have a slightly harder time seeing any trade partners left in the first round behind us.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#785 » by machu46 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:01 pm

pilprin wrote:I don’t know if MKE keeps the player at 24…but it seems like a top of round 2 pick would be pretty valuable if we can acquire one. Gillispie or Christie…even a Baldwin type could be there. Just feels like this roster could use two young guys and hope one is a rotational guy by mid season

The issue with trading down for 2nds is that with the contracts we usually give them, it’ll eat into what we can offer on the TPMLE (of course we also may not intend to use the whole thing anyways)


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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#786 » by machu46 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:02 pm

M-C-G wrote:Another guy I'd like to see, maybe the shooting % wasn't there this year but has a boatload of skills


I don’t really mind gambling on the scoring upside but everything else about his game worries me more than the shooting percentages.


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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#787 » by M-C-G » Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:32 pm

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M-C-G wrote:Another guy I'd like to see, maybe the shooting % wasn't there this year but has a boatload of skills


I don’t really mind gambling on the scoring upside but everything else about his game worries me more than the shooting percentages.


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I haven't made time to watch college bb in years, so I really am at the mercy of what I read and what I watch in videos. I have seen people advocate for a Jordan Clarkson type and feel like he can get to the rim and finish at a pretty high level. Also seems to have the tools to be be pretty good at whatever you want him to do or become.

I'm less worried about that shot because based on that one video, I saw probably 15 shots that I would classify as very difficult or very deep shots from 3. And if that is just what he made, I would have to assume he takes a lot of those and misses as well, which might mean he was really taking difficult shots 25% of the time.

Anyway, I am assuming the team likes him given they are bringing him back for another visit so close to the draft.
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Post#788 » by MVP2110 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:47 pm

Out of curiosity, if you knew you could draft Brook Lopez where would you take him in the 1st?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#789 » by LuessiT » Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:52 pm

MVP2110 wrote:Out of curiosity, if you knew you could draft Brook Lopez where would you take him in the 1st?


I mean what Brook Lopez are we talking about? Cause rookie Brook Lopez is unplayable in this day and age. Current version of Brook?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#790 » by German Athens » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:40 pm

MVP2110 wrote:Out of curiosity, if you knew you could draft Brook Lopez where would you take him in the 1st?

Looking at college stats and trying my best to remember the player he was at Stanford.

He was a big that had nice touch from midrange and in. I think evaluating him today, you’d feel decent about his chances of becoming a decent three point shooter due to his touch, and about 79% free throw shooting on good volume.

He had a pretty tiny block rate, and mediocre rebounding rate. He didn’t look like a defender.

He wasn’t a passer.

So, in essence, you’d have a guy who you think could potentially be a scorer from all three levels, but won’t be able to pass, or likely defend at the most important defensive position.

You may buy into his size (9’5” standing reach) giving him good rim protection eventually, but you aren’t sold on it.

I’m thinking he’d get drafted at like 20 today, but I personally wouldn’t tough that player until the early second round. I would have ended up being wrong, and with his defensive development, in a re-draft, would have been a lottery pick.


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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#791 » by Badgerlander » Sun Jun 19, 2022 4:48 pm

Yoan Makoundou seems like a fun guy to grab if we pick up a 2nd
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#792 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:40 am

MVP2110 wrote:Out of curiosity, if you knew you could draft Brook Lopez where would you take him in the 1st?


I'd take someone else, because he's too slow for today's NBA
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#793 » by chonestown » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:56 am

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MVP2110 wrote:Out of curiosity, if you knew you could draft Brook Lopez where would you take him in the 1st?


I'd take someone else, because he's too slow for today's NBA


Relatedly, I think the argument can be made he's too tall for today's NBA.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#794 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:18 am

Badgerlander wrote:Yoan Makoundou seems like a fun guy to grab if we pick up a 2nd



Yes, this is the type of center we should be looking for. 6'9", 7'3" wingspan, quick feet, can jump. He's a late bloomer because he started playing late, but we could hide him on the roster as the 14th guy is we can get quality 1-12.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#795 » by Badgerlander » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:48 am

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Badgerlander wrote:Yoan Makoundou seems like a fun guy to grab if we pick up a 2nd



Yes, this is the type of center we should be looking for. 6'9", 7'3" wingspan, quick feet, can jump. He's a late bloomer because he started playing late, but we could hide him on the roster as the 14th guy is we can get quality 1-12.


Eh I don’t think he is a center but certainly a bouncy forward and we struggled to find even 10 quality guys last year. I’m almost expecting to carry 4 guys that would barely make a g league team on our roster this year
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#796 » by DrWood » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:50 am

MVP2110 wrote:Out of curiosity, if you knew you could draft Brook Lopez where would you take him in the 1st?

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#797 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:27 am

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Badgerlander wrote:Yoan Makoundou seems like a fun guy to grab if we pick up a 2nd



Yes, this is the type of center we should be looking for. 6'9", 7'3" wingspan, quick feet, can jump. He's a late bloomer because he started playing late, but we could hide him on the roster as the 14th guy is we can get quality 1-12.


Eh I don’t think he is a center but certainly a bouncy forward and we struggled to find even 10 quality guys last year. I’m almost expecting to carry 4 guys that would barely make a g league team on our roster this year



He measures a replica of Kevon Looney, who is one of the best modern defensive centers in the game.
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Post#798 » by German Athens » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:33 pm

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#799 » by skones » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:44 pm

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He measures a replica of Kevon Looney, who is one of the best modern defensive centers in the game.


Lol, no he is not. The guy's a "meh" player all around and is playing a role because Golden State doesn't have any other money to spend.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#800 » by LuessiT » Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:54 pm

skones wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:

He measures a replica of Kevon Looney, who is one of the best modern defensive centers in the game.


Lol, no he is not. The guy's a "meh" player all around and is playing a role because Golden State doesn't have any other money to spend.


Imo he's smart and very coachable, but on any other team he's a minimum player.

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