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Hawks have 13 guys in protocols and 2 injured.
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emunney wrote:mediocrityrules wrote:Yeah the Boston board in meltdown at the moment. I remember those dark days.
Saw Cs fans on twitter complaining about Udoka not playing the 10 day guys. If that's the problem, that's not The Problem.
It is impossible to judge anything right now. Complete roulette wheel as to what guys your team has available to play versus what guys the opponent has.
That said, both Boston and Philly each need a big shakeup trade.
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Bucksmaniac wrote:skones wrote:All I've got is that Bulls fans are absolutely delusional with how good they are and what their ceiling is.
I think you’re delusional if you think we’re much better than the Bulls. Difference that separates is playoff/championship experience other than DeRozan who has plenty, but talent wise they have arguably a big 4 to our Big 3, of course Giannis is much better than their best.
They have 1 game on us while we've lost over 100 games due to injury/covid from our top rotation players. They're a feel good story, just like the Hawks were last year. We're just on an entirely different tier.
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paulpressey25 wrote:emunney wrote:mediocrityrules wrote:Yeah the Boston board in meltdown at the moment. I remember those dark days.
Saw Cs fans on twitter complaining about Udoka not playing the 10 day guys. If that's the problem, that's not The Problem.
It is impossible to judge anything right now. Complete roulette wheel as to what guys your team has available to play versus what guys the opponent has.
That said, both Boston and Philly each need a big shakeup trade.
Boston, Indiana, Philly, Portland all need to just put all their player names in a hat and randomly redistribute.
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Bulls are very good but let’s be real, Giannis would absolutely **** on the Bulls in a playoff series. Caruso and Lonzo are really fun defensive players but outside of that they are laughably ill equipped to handle a locked in Giannis in a playoff series.
Full strength Miami is clearly the 3rd best playoff team in the East imo. Possible exception would be if Philly actually pulls off a good Simmons trade.
Full strength Miami is clearly the 3rd best playoff team in the East imo. Possible exception would be if Philly actually pulls off a good Simmons trade.
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Bulls remind me more of the Knicks last year than the Hawks - pretty good years from older players, LaVine was better than Randle was (and probably remains so) - I could see them getting the 4 seed and possibly losing their first series when their playoff bums revert to being playoff bums (here's looking at you, DDR and Vucevic) against a fairly evenly-matched 5 seed.
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Yeah, people really taking the "exceeded expectations" hot takes a bit too far in the early season. Bulls are probably a legitimately good offensive team with the additions they made, but not convinced that their 10th ranked defense isn't still fluky as hell with how they scheme it (basically play 4 guards/wings around Vuc who's a non rim-protector).
And then there's this weird national media notion (although getting more popular on this site too) that the Warriors are "in a class of their own" as contenders which is just laughable. I mean, good on them for being more fortunate health wise than basically every other contender (they've had their preferred starting-5 in 29 of 33 possible games so far), but who seriously thinks that the Jazz and Suns couldn't just as easily come out of the West? Let alone any 3 of those teams being "favorites" against us in a potential Finals series.
And then there's this weird national media notion (although getting more popular on this site too) that the Warriors are "in a class of their own" as contenders which is just laughable. I mean, good on them for being more fortunate health wise than basically every other contender (they've had their preferred starting-5 in 29 of 33 possible games so far), but who seriously thinks that the Jazz and Suns couldn't just as easily come out of the West? Let alone any 3 of those teams being "favorites" against us in a potential Finals series.
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skones wrote:Bucksmaniac wrote:skones wrote:All I've got is that Bulls fans are absolutely delusional with how good they are and what their ceiling is.
I think you’re delusional if you think we’re much better than the Bulls. Difference that separates is playoff/championship experience other than DeRozan who has plenty, but talent wise they have arguably a big 4 to our Big 3, of course Giannis is much better than their best.
They have 1 game on us while we've lost over 100 games due to injury/covid from our top rotation players. They're a feel good story, just like the Hawks were last year. We're just on an entirely different tier.
We have the easiest SOS in the NBA right now. Bulls have had an easier one too but that’s a factor so I’m not going to be cocky about our chances vs the other East teams just yet. I hope Indy sneaks into the Playoffs though and we do well enough to draw them 1st round because I think even the 1st round matchups won’t be easy for the top East teams but I think we’d sweep Indy.
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emunney wrote:Hawks have 13 guys in protocols and 2 injured.
And they played the team the NBA delayed games for due to overload of players in protocols.
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Bucksmaniac wrote:skones wrote:Bucksmaniac wrote:
I think you’re delusional if you think we’re much better than the Bulls. Difference that separates is playoff/championship experience other than DeRozan who has plenty, but talent wise they have arguably a big 4 to our Big 3, of course Giannis is much better than their best.
They have 1 game on us while we've lost over 100 games due to injury/covid from our top rotation players. They're a feel good story, just like the Hawks were last year. We're just on an entirely different tier.
We have the easiest SOS in the NBA right now. Bulls have had an easier one too but that’s a factor so I’m not going to be cocky about our chances vs the other East teams just yet. I hope Indy sneaks into the Playoffs though and we do well enough to draw them 1st round because I think even the 1st round matchups won’t be easy for the top East teams but I think we’d sweep Indy.
We have a title, and we have Giannis. That's really all you need to know to know that we're on another tier than a Chicago team led by Zach Lavine and Demar Derozan.
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Bucksmaniac wrote:skones wrote:Bucksmaniac wrote:
I think you’re delusional if you think we’re much better than the Bulls. Difference that separates is playoff/championship experience other than DeRozan who has plenty, but talent wise they have arguably a big 4 to our Big 3, of course Giannis is much better than their best.
They have 1 game on us while we've lost over 100 games due to injury/covid from our top rotation players. They're a feel good story, just like the Hawks were last year. We're just on an entirely different tier.
We have the easiest SOS in the NBA right now. Bulls have had an easier one too but that’s a factor so I’m not going to be cocky about our chances vs the other East teams just yet. I hope Indy sneaks into the Playoffs though and we do well enough to draw them 1st round because I think even the 1st round matchups won’t be easy for the top East teams but I think we’d sweep Indy.
The Bulls are a helluva lot better this year, that being said, they do not concern me in the slightest come playoff time. As Skones said, we're by far the better team when healthy.
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Bulls are allowing the 2nd most shots at the rim in the league but they also string out possessions. One of the better teams in the league at making the opponent shoot late in the shot clock.
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WeekapaugGroove wrote:I wouldn't call the bulls serious contenders but really who the **** knows. It's not like we've seen this group together in a playoff series and most of their key guys have never been in the playoffs at all. Most of the time that's not a recipe for success but it's not completely out of the question that a guy like Lavine would blow up in a series.
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I'm really interested in seeing how their defense holds up in the playoffs.
paulpressey25 wrote:emunney wrote:mediocrityrules wrote:Yeah the Boston board in meltdown at the moment. I remember those dark days.
Saw Cs fans on twitter complaining about Udoka not playing the 10 day guys. If that's the problem, that's not The Problem.
It is impossible to judge anything right now. Complete roulette wheel as to what guys your team has available to play versus what guys the opponent has.
That said, both Boston and Philly each need a big shakeup trade.
I'd keep Brown and Tatum together. What they really need is an actual point guard.
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This is probably the last year before Ingles, Conley and Bogdanovic start looking a bit too old. I think this is their year and they will finally come out of the West.
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Yeah bulls could really use a health Williams as a defensive stopper.Ayt wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:I wouldn't call the bulls serious contenders but really who the **** knows. It's not like we've seen this group together in a playoff series and most of their key guys have never been in the playoffs at all. Most of the time that's not a recipe for success but it's not completely out of the question that a guy like Lavine would blow up in a series.
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I'm really interested in seeing how their defense holds up in the playoffs.paulpressey25 wrote:emunney wrote:
Saw Cs fans on twitter complaining about Udoka not playing the 10 day guys. If that's the problem, that's not The Problem.
It is impossible to judge anything right now. Complete roulette wheel as to what guys your team has available to play versus what guys the opponent has.
That said, both Boston and Philly each need a big shakeup trade.
I'd keep Brown and Tatum together. What they really need is an actual point guard.
My comment on them probably stems from how people talked about the bucks, for a lot of fans and media they weren't viewed as a 'true contender.' It's just a lazy take for any team we haven't seen do it before, and since only one team a year wins it it's usually right by default.
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Ayt wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:emunney wrote:
Saw Cs fans on twitter complaining about Udoka not playing the 10 day guys. If that's the problem, that's not The Problem.
It is impossible to judge anything right now. Complete roulette wheel as to what guys your team has available to play versus what guys the opponent has.
That said, both Boston and Philly each need a big shakeup trade.
I'd keep Brown and Tatum together. What they really need is an actual point guard.
I've been - well, not really a fan, but a proponent - of that duo for many years. And I guess specifically a fan of Brown.
But I'm starting to lose it. And his response to Horford's comments make me think that he might just not 'get it'. And Tatum might not either. Both have so much talent, but they both just want their shots. And it seems to be getting worse, not better.
Think they may need to be separated, put into a good team structure - which it continues to appear Boston does not have - and be a clear #2.
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Ayt wrote:WeekapaugGroove wrote:I wouldn't call the bulls serious contenders but really who the **** knows. It's not like we've seen this group together in a playoff series and most of their key guys have never been in the playoffs at all. Most of the time that's not a recipe for success but it's not completely out of the question that a guy like Lavine would blow up in a series.
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I'm really interested in seeing how their defense holds up in the playoffs.paulpressey25 wrote:emunney wrote:
Saw Cs fans on twitter complaining about Udoka not playing the 10 day guys. If that's the problem, that's not The Problem.
It is impossible to judge anything right now. Complete roulette wheel as to what guys your team has available to play versus what guys the opponent has.
That said, both Boston and Philly each need a big shakeup trade.
I'd keep Brown and Tatum together. What they really need is an actual point guard.
Yep. Their offense does not look good. Another shooter or two would also help.
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MikeIsGood wrote:Ayt wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:
It is impossible to judge anything right now. Complete roulette wheel as to what guys your team has available to play versus what guys the opponent has.
That said, both Boston and Philly each need a big shakeup trade.
I'd keep Brown and Tatum together. What they really need is an actual point guard.
I've been - well, not really a fan, but a proponent - of that duo for many years. And I guess specifically a fan of Brown.
But I'm starting to lose it. And his response to Horford's comments make me think that he might just not 'get it'. And Tatum might not either. Both have so much talent, but they both just want their shots. And it seems to be getting worse, not better.
Think they may need to be separated, put into a good team structure - which it continues to appear Boston does not have - and be a clear #2.
The response to Horford is weird, since it was just such a cliche thing to say. I’m trying to interpret it:
1. Does he hate Horford?
2. Does he think “looking in the mirror” is beyond him and that other pieces need to be fixed, while he believes he is playing the right way?
3. Does he doubt the ability of others to “look into the mirror” and doubt that they will take accountability? And would this directed at guys like Tatum and Smart?
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Rubio's got a torn ACL. Ooof.
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Huge bummer
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