Stein: Strong possibility Bucks active due to slow start

[Nebula1]

Bucks have to be sellers this time, right? Right? RIGHT?



"Milwaukee doesn't want me"

[breakchains]

terrifying/infuriating

[H2tObes]

this was inevitable

[randy84]

I could see a Ersan to Houston, Asik to 76ers, Turner to Bucks, type trade.

[vlietinho]

terrifying/infuriating

Yeah.

An Ersan for a pick trade kind of thing would be ok though

[Wooderson]

He messing with you. Whatever most people are against he will always take the opposite side. And when the deal goes down no matter what happens he will like it (Gooden, Maggette, Jackson...) because we will hate it.

However, no need to panic. We all should have been mentally prepared for this as we knew it was coming. It was assumed the idiots in charge would look for a win now move. All we can do now is pray we aren't sending out youth for vets that bring us 35 wins and the 8th seed. Pray Hammond pulls another deck chairs on the Titanic trade where players are traded but it doesn't make us better or worse than we currently are now. Just stay calm and pray hard and pray often.

I think his dislike for Sanders is part of it too. An Asik deal probably signals an imminent Sanders trade if he's not a part of the original deal. Acquiring Asik would also reduce the Bucks bargaining position in Larry-centric deal. The Bucks being the Bucks tells me we will probably end up with a Ryan Anderson/Asik front court at the expense of Larry/Ersan.

[InsideOut]

He messing with you. Whatever most people are against he will always take the opposite side. And when the deal goes down no matter what happens he will like it (Gooden, Maggette, Jackson...) because we will hate it.

However, no need to panic. We all should have been mentally prepared for this as we knew it was coming. It was assumed the idiots in charge would look for a win now move. All we can do now is pray we aren't sending out youth for vets that bring us 35 wins and the 8th seed. Pray Hammond pulls another deck chairs on the Titanic trade where players are traded but it doesn't make us better or worse than we currently are now. Just stay calm and pray hard and pray often.

I think his dislike for Sanders is part of it too. An Asik deal probably signals an imminent Sanders trade if he's not a part of the original deal. Acquiring Asik would also reduce the Bucks bargaining position in Larry-centric deal. The Bucks being the Bucks tells me we will probably end up with a Ryan Anderson/Asik front court at the expense of Larry/Ersan.

The sad part is that Stein reports the Bucks will be active and virtually everyone assumes it will end up being a horrendous deal for us. We have zero confidence in the front office to do anything correctly. I guess 30 years of Kohl and Hammond's 6 year track record will do that to a fan. If these guys do anything to win now at the expense of the future I'll stop following them other than for fantasy basketball reasons. If they can't figure out what needs to happen this season then all hope is lost until Kohl and the entire front office are gone.

[paulpressey25]

Does your confidence that we won't make a win now trade and include Giannis extend to our 2014 1st round pick as well? Just curious what u think...

Giannis won't be dealt. That front office is desperately positioning him as the reason why they need to stay in power. He's the only positive PR thing they have at the moment.

The 2014 pick won't be dealt either, unless it has top ten protection on it.

The bigger fear for me is that we get a couple guys like Deng or Asik who add another ten wins to the total and kill our draft position.

[Nebula1]

Does your confidence that we won't make a win now trade and include Giannis extend to our 2014 1st round pick as well? Just curious what u think...

Giannis won't be dealt. That front office is desperately positioning him as the reason why they need to stay in power. He's the only positive PR thing they have at the moment.

The 2014 pick won't be dealt either, unless it has top ten protection on it.

The bigger fear for me is that we get a couple guys like Deng or Asik who add another ten wins to the total and kill our draft position.

I don't think Asik adds any more wins that Sanders does. Sanders (from what we've seen) is better than Asik, although Asik to Milwaukee seems to be gaining more and more traction.

I can't imagine they'd truly target a Deng with Butler already there, but who knows with this franchise.

[LUKE23]

He messing with you. Whatever most people are against he will always take the opposite side. And when the deal goes down no matter what happens he will like it (Gooden, Maggette, Jackson...) because we will hate it.

However, no need to panic. We all should have been mentally prepared for this as we knew it was coming. It was assumed the idiots in charge would look for a win now move. All we can do now is pray we aren't sending out youth for vets that bring us 35 wins and the 8th seed. Pray Hammond pulls another deck chairs on the Titanic trade where players are traded but it doesn't make us better or worse than we currently are now. Just stay calm and pray hard and pray often.

Yep.

[Max Green]

I'm giving the FO the benefit of doubt and assuming we will be sellers. The only evidence I have is that Neal & Ridnour have both had their minutes cut drastically the last couple of games, and Hammond had to have learned something from the Tobias debacle.

[raferfenix]

The front office doesn't deserve any sort of benefit of the doubt, but the notion that we would make moves after having the win now 'plan' blow up so spectacularly doesn't necessarily mean we will make more win now moves.

[LUKE23]

I have no idea why anyone would give the front office the benefit of the doubt, personally. I'm not even convinced Hammond built this team to tank. I'll be nervous until the trade deadline passes.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

He messing with you. Whatever most people are against he will always take the opposite side. And when the deal goes down no matter what happens he will like it (Gooden, Maggette, Jackson...) because we will hate it.

However, no need to panic. We all should have been mentally prepared for this as we knew it was coming. It was assumed the idiots in charge would look for a win now move. All we can do now is pray we aren't sending out youth for vets that bring us 35 wins and the 8th seed. Pray Hammond pulls another deck chairs on the Titanic trade where players are traded but it doesn't make us better or worse than we currently are now. Just stay calm and pray hard and pray often.

I think his dislike for Sanders is part of it too. An Asik deal probably signals an imminent Sanders trade if he's not a part of the original deal. Acquiring Asik would also reduce the Bucks bargaining position in Larry-centric deal. The Bucks being the Bucks tells me we will probably end up with a Ryan Anderson/Asik front court at the expense of Larry/Ersan.

thats 100% of what it is. sanders on a competeive team has some merit. on a tanking team, with a massive contract, then gtfo of here with this guy. and dont even let me get started about ersan. holy crap here hes been going like he does again.

i have been in agreement with the board 100% since the first week of the season that we need to tank this mess out all the way. im also under no illusion that we will, or should, be competitive for not only this season but at least next season as well.

this board has preached a sell off and tank since forever. the idea that here we are and we would hold onto these 2 guys has my head spinning.

asik has the most value league wide of the 3. and asik has the best contract of the 3. the idea that we could package some veteran contracts at houston that could help them win this year in exchange for a top notch playoff caliber center with a shortterm contract who we could then potentially showcase.... it makes perfect sense.

if any young guys go out id gag of course. this is an asset sell off. of course id like the highest value possible. but regardless, the timing needs to be now(before this years deadline).... not later.

[Matches Malone]

Very gut wrenching news. I'm pretty pessimistic when it comes to this front office making any kind of trade. My only hope is that Morway helps Hammond not make a complete fool out of himself. We can only hope that with Neal and Ridnour seeing their minutes cut back the last two games, that we will be selling off some of the veterans on this team without suffering any of the young assets or picks.

[LUKE23]

You can tank with Sanders. The fact of the matter is that you never mentioned trading Sanders once until you got butt hurt over his bar altercation. We should be looking to trade vets for worse vets with similar deals or youth that isn't ready. You don't trade a young defensive anchor at his lowest trade value.

[CanadaBucks]

Actually after reading the Stein article a Milsap/Asik/Ilyasova 3-way trade could be interesting for all involved.

[turbo2k]

If we trade any youth or picks for a middling vet I am completely done with this team until we get new ownership/management. This would be the completely last straw for me if they did did a Tobias trade redux.

[Matches Malone]

If we trade any youth or picks for a middling vet I am completely done with this team until we get new ownership/management. This would be the completely last straw for me if they did did a Tobias trade redux.

Yep, I'm with you. Any deal where we trade a young piece as a "filler" or even a pick and I will be done with the team for awhile.

[Wooderson]

asik has the most value league wide of the 3. and asik has the best contract of the 3. the idea that we could package some veteran contracts at houston that could help them win this year in exchange for a top notch playoff caliber center with a shortterm contract who we could then potentially showcase.... it makes perfect sense.

if any young guys go out id gag of course. this is an asset sell off. of course id like the highest value possible. but regardless, the timing needs to be now(before this years deadline).... not later.

How in the world do you know that Asik has the most value of the 3? Almost every competitive team has a center in place already. And whoever acquires Asik is going to have to dish out $15 million next year. How many teams are going to sacrifice assets for an older center on a more expensive short-term contract? Morey has made it 100% aware that he wants Asik gone in 10 days, yet there are barely any rumblings of interest outside of this most recent article.

If the Bucks acquire Asik, they are going to keep him until the end of his contract. This trade would be made in order to keep the team competitive, yet somehow you think they are going to deal him for a future asset? So we acquire Asik and he either walks or we massively overpay.

No thanks, I'll keep Sanders if the only option is Asik. He's better and younger.