PG Warriors: Bucks Choke

rilamann · Post #81 » by **rilamann** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:31 am

And as much as I can't stand Forbes and the fact Bud refuses to keep him on the bench. If there was one situation where I'd say put Forbes in the game, it would be down 1 with 7 seconds left. Forbes was actually hitting his shots tonight too. Typical coach Bud though, he plays Forbes, but in the one situation where Forbes should be in the game, Bud leaves him on the bench.

Swingman72 · Post #82 » by **Swingman72** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:34 am

Pat's 67th in 3pt percentage and has scored a grand total of 310 points this year. Yeah, a real barn burner. Also with that logic, maybe we should go get the #1 3pt percentage leader in Tony Snell, with a whopping grand total of 207 points this year. Bad players are just bad players.

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Swingman72 wrote:Pat should not see the floor. The guy is a spaz and cannot make a layup, let alone a 3.

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He's shooting 39% from three.

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Perseus1966 · Post #83 » by **Perseus1966** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:40 am

Davis hates us ,if Davis Foster and Brothers dont retire Bucks always will suffer.

AussieBuck · Post #84 » by **AussieBuck** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:42 am

Such a Bucks basketball game.

DrWood · Post #85 » by **DrWood** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:48 am

based on the comments here, most of you missed the reason the bucks lost (other than Giannis sitting). Steph was being Steph and Jrue did nothing to slow him down.

I wonder what you guys would say if you were warrior fans. Most of their guys don't have a clue how to play NBA basketball (Steph, Dray, Bazemore, and maybe Looney excepted).

th87 · Post #86 » by **th87** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 5:49 am

Refs in playoff form.

Team just isn't good enough to overcome NBA directives. Must accept.

Baddy Chuck · Post #87 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:01 am

Read on Twitter

Pray to god Tucker can guard these better tahn Lopez.

Post #88 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:06 am

DrWood wrote: Steph was being Steph and Jrue did nothing to slow him down.

This is the part that no one really understands when we talk about Jrue v. Bledsoe. They are two totally different defenders.

Yes, Jrue is wonderful bodying up guy like Kawhi. He's a great man defender of wings and even PF and Centers at times.

Bledsoe though was the tip of the spear of the defense. He was able to blow up opposing PG's at the point of attack. He could fight over, under and through picks. We absolutely do not have that anymore, and it shows.

Post #89 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:13 am

Siefer wrote:The last 5 minutes of that one was a full team disaster. Bud needed to go small, Lopez wasn't working against Draymond at center, Middleton and Jrue were both messes on offense, and multiple defensive breakdowns due to overhelping on Steph.

Agreed. But I'm not too wound up about the loss, if they can learn from it. I'll look at the positives.

-Jrue showed more flashes of being an alpha on offense. We're going to need that

-Teague showed that he's an upgrade on Augustin, and maybe will take some minutes from Donte and Pat

-Thanasis seems to be a homeless man's Ron Artest, which is good, because up until the past month, he didn't seem worth a roster spot

Post #90 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:13 am

I just don't want to see Khris handling the ball down the stretch. I just don't understand what Bud sees in him that compels him to have him run the offense. Let Teague or Jrue handle it. Let Khris come off of screens and make plays off the ball.

Post #91 » by **humanrefutation** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:18 am

I do think Teague looked like a natural fit out there. Really big upgrade from Augustin.

AussieBuck · Post #92 » by **AussieBuck** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:22 am

Teague is looking a lot less washed than DJ, that's something. We at least have options now to bench Lopez when it matters. He's going to be cooked in a lot of playoff matchups. Get fit PJ.

HKPackFan · Post #93 » by **HKPackFan** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:23 am

humanrefutation wrote:I just don't want to see Khris handling the ball down the stretch. I just don't understand what Bud sees in him that compels him to have him run the offense. Let Teague or Jrue handle it. Let Khris come off of screens and make plays off the ball.

We all see it and we aren't "experts" why does it keep happening?

Someone should do an analysis of our ATO's in game winning situations over the last 3 years. It's not pretty and it's a heavy amount of Khris Middleton.

rilamann · Post #94 » by **rilamann** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:26 am

th87 wrote:Refs in playoff form.

Team just isn't good enough to overcome NBA directives. Must accept.

Yup, even if the small market Bucks are good enough to beat a team like the Nets in a 7 game series, there isn't a chance in hell the league will allow it to happen. The narrative of a KD/Harden/Kyrie big market Brooklyn vs Lebron/AD and big market LA is way too good to let a team like the Bucks spoil, regardless if the Bucks are good enough to or not. Kinda like MVP Iverson and big market Philly vs Shaq/Kobe and big market LA. Different cast, but we've seen this movie before.

Holiday's offensive foul was just one of many calls in last night's game that tells you all you need to know if you're a youngster, or needed a refresher.

Post #95 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 6:49 am

humanrefutation wrote:I just don't want to see Khris handling the ball down the stretch. I just don't understand what Bud sees in him that compels him to have him run the offense. Let Teague or Jrue handle it. Let Khris come off of screens and make plays off the ball.

He's one of the only guys on the team that can create his own shot. Who else is there after Giannis, Jrue and now maybe Teague in spurts. You just have to deal with his sloppy handles.

Think the bigger thing is that he does tend seem asleep at the switch out there many times. We've all observed it over these many years.

Pachinko_ · Post #96 » by **Pachinko_** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:06 am

rilamann wrote:
th87 wrote:Refs in playoff form.

Team just isn't good enough to overcome NBA directives. Must accept.

Yup, even if the small market Bucks are good enough to beat a team like the Nets in a 7 game series, there isn't a chance in hell the league will allow it to happen. The narrative of a KD/Harden/Kyrie big market Brooklyn vs Lebron/AD and big market LA is way too good to let a team like the Bucks spoil, regardless if the Bucks are good enough to or not. Kinda like MVP Iverson and big market Philly vs Shaq/Kobe and big market LA. Different cast, but we've seen this movie before.

Holiday's offensive foul was just one of many calls in last night's game that tells you all you need to know if you're a youngster, or needed a refresher.

Nah, we said the same thing about the battle of LA last year and the evil league had zero problems with Denver, Colorado instead.

Fotis St · Post #97 » by **Fotis St** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:29 am

rilamann wrote:And as much as I can't stand Forbes and the fact Bud refuses to keep him on the bench. If there was one situation where I'd say put Forbes in the game, it would be down 1 with 7 seconds left. Forbes was actually hitting his shots tonight too. Typical coach Bud though, he plays Forbes, but in the one situation where Forbes should be in the game, Bud leaves him on the bench.

Not a popular opinion, but some will get it ...
Forbes is a more willing shooter than Khris.
This dude is a pure shooter, he has better shot arc than Khris , mechanics and he splashes his shots (net only) when they go in. He is willingly, taking one dribble and shoots-makes shots. As Khris he can't attack the paint cause of pure handles and athleticism. I wish Khris could be as simple on his game as Forbes is. Jason Kidd baptised him as a Point Forward and he picked bad habits that carries throughout his whole career. Giannis has overvalued his own playmaking skills too.

So .... Bud at crunch time draws a pick n pop play 3p shot for Pat ... Jesus. Our out of bound plays are probably the dumbest in the whole league. Pat missed his shot cause it is really a difficult shot, he didn't have time to square up his feet and shoulders properly. Its a flawed X&O that really asks too much from the shooter. Bud asks from the shooter to rotate 180o catch and shoot in half a sec. I saw Pat not being able to square up his feet and I knew it was not going. I have seen alot of this flawed X&O play from Bud while asking from Khris the same thing at the left corner 3. We played 2 times that play with Khris and he missed cause it is a flawed X&O. I mean can all these 12 coaches draw an efing X&O where the shooter rotates only 45o to square up to the rim and shoot ?

Post #98 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 9:33 am

We're not always going to win when the other team has Curry, and we're playing without Giannis. I was perfectly fine with the performance - obviously would have preferred to win. One more second, and we would have won.

Coach Carter · Post #99 » by **Coach Carter** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 9:47 am

I couldn't watch but I'm guessing tucker wasn't available. Still, like others have mentioned, Bud could've gone with thanasis or portis. His persistence with lopez against small ball lineups, is beyond stubbornness, it's foolishness. I was ready to move on from him after the raptors series where we lost 4 in a row, i'm still shocked he wasn't let go after the miami series. Eventually i trust horst will look for a replacement. He traded bledsoe a year or two later later than what he should've but eventually he did and i think bud has one more playoff run to prove his worth. I saw the last play; embarrassing to say the least. It seemed like the players had no idea what the play was. As for khris, i agree with those saying he isn't being used correctly. Dude is slow and has no business dribbling the ball, nor initiating the play; we have point guards for that. Khris should be a catch n shoot guy or if we can get him a miss match in the low post.

Fotis St · Post #100 » by **Fotis St** » Wed Apr 7, 2021 10:30 am

DrWood wrote:based on the comments here, most of you missed the reason the bucks lost (other than Giannis sitting). Steph was being Steph and Jrue did nothing to slow him down.

I wonder what you guys would say if you were warrior fans. Most of their guys don't have a clue how to play NBA basketball (Steph, Dray, Bazemore, and maybe Looney excepted).

You are looking but you are not watching.
What can Jrue do when he gets picked and Lopez drops down instead of showing high and Curry gets enough space to shoot or create ? What exactly are you asking from a defender on a pick n roll action ? Jrue can't go through the pick.

So Slopez is the reason Curry gets the space and he was late on the other 2 3s in row by Kelly Oubre Jr too