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Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI

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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#81 » by tedbrogen » Wed Nov 22, 2023 5:59 pm

JayMKE wrote:Of course you want Tatum to play if you actually intend to watch the game and gauge where the Bucks are at as a contending team, weird flex to be like it doesn't matter but I want it to be less competitive for some reason. :crazy:


If Tatum plays AND Beasley gets the assignment, the game is likely less competitive than if Tatum doesn’t play.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#82 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:02 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:*glances at 37-year old Horford's numbers this year*

It's certainly gonna be something to watch to see how long this "Boston Top-6" narrative keeps chugging along before someone points out how hilariously stupid it is to keep throwing Al's name in there.

It's just annoying because you know he will shoot 45%3 against the Bucks in May and be low 30s the remaining series. That said, he looked washed last play-off series. Just inefficient shooting and a step slower.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#83 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:02 pm

The Celtics are the better team right now, there is no doubt about it even if we win tonight. They had 2-3 bad games lately but they showed more times than us that they already have good chemistry and elite level of offense and defense. They only struggled in clutch time like they always do for years. If their 3s do not fall and the game is close they will turn the ball over, run unstable ISOs with Tatum and Brown and look out of shorts most likely.

I want to see how they will guard Giannis and how he will react.
I want to see how Dame will help if Giannis gets stuck. Can he at least foul bait their defense or will he get the Giannis treatment?
How will they defend our PNRs? Pack the paint and pray we miss our shots or let Giannis get his and defend the rest like they did 3-4 seasons ago?
I want to see if they can still break down our defense with closed eyes. Last season they either exploited us in the transition after our bricks or generated unlimited open 3s with the exact same way especially with Brook inside. I think they averaged +20 3s on +45% in 3 games last season. We are still not athletic enough this season. If Giannis makes or misses a bucket on one end we have no one able to run back and defend quick enough.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#84 » by buckboy » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:16 pm

skones wrote:I don't have high expectations here.


I don't either.
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Post#85 » by buckboy » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:17 pm

tedbrogen wrote:Even if the Bucks win by 30, Dame puts up 40, and Tatum plays: (Annoying Bill Simmons voice) “We know games in November are meaningless, so this lose doesn’t prove anything, but we did find out whose guarding Tatum and it’s the flu which is okay because no one on the Bucks roster can cover him in a seven games series and Jrue showed us he’ll shut down Dame when it matters. Jrue’s always been a better playoff performer than regular season performer. He always shuts down his man in the playoffs. Always.”


He actually chalked up the Hornets loss to it being Thanksgiving week on his pod. He has lost his mind.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#86 » by buckboy » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:21 pm

Nothing would be better than a Dame 50 piece and multiple daggers down the stretch.

Best-case scenario IMO.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#87 » by AntetokounmBros » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:28 pm

I'd be fine with a well-fought loss. Obviously a win is better, but let Boston get hyped up and us be the underdog this year.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#88 » by JonHeist » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:35 pm

anything less than a 59 point win so we pass them in net rating is a disappointment IMO
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Post#89 » by WiscoKing13 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:04 pm

There's a world where at 9 PM we have the best record in the east and tied for best record in the league. Pretty amazing all things considered.

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Post#90 » by tedbrogen » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:10 pm

I’m assuming the CelSimmonstics will use the same strategy they did during prior early season matchups against the Bucks. Vanilla defense playing straight up while doing easy switches. Basically the lowest intensity defense as to save something for later matchups. They potentially also just play five out and let guys ISO to see if they can breakdown the defense without hunting mismatches.

I highly doubt they throw anything complex at the Bucks this early. Now in a playoff series, I think they’d blitz Dame and Giannis with everyone to take them away and make the other players beat them. They’d leave everyone other than Midds wide open and dare them to win the series. Brook will be allowed to shoot 15 threes per game if he wants. (Not sure I want that myself)
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#91 » by tedbrogen » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:11 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:There's a world where at 9 PM we have the best record in the east and tied for best record in the league. Pretty amazing all things considered.

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There’s also a world where Tatum has his “flu game” and puts up 50 mostly on Beasley and Jrue gets 40 mostly on open looks but Bill Simmons says he hung all 40 on Dame.
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Post#92 » by bucksfansince88 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:12 pm

Giannis about to curb stomp the Celtics and media pundits for the collective disrespect
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#93 » by tedbrogen » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:16 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:*glances at 37-year old Horford's numbers this year*

It's certainly gonna be something to watch to see how long this "Boston Top-6" narrative keeps chugging along before someone points out how hilariously stupid it is to keep throwing Al's name in there.

It's just annoying because you know he will shoot 45%3 against the Bucks in May and be low 30s the remaining series. That said, he looked washed last play-off series. Just inefficient shooting and a step slower.


Horford holds a grunge over 2019. Bud had a brilliant plan that they let him shoot as much as he wanted but it was always top of the key because he was screening for Kyrie and Horford was also the only guy they could put in Giannis. So the Celtics would stay close for a half while Horford hit his first few threes then he was exhausted in the second half so they could keep leaving him open and it was brick city. That also kept Brook at the rim and Kyrie took that as a challenge to shoot more midrange twos with Bledsoe on his back each successive game.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#94 » by fansinceforever » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:20 pm

I could literally see any outcome to this game.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#95 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:37 pm

BOSTON -- Jrue Holiday said he doesn't have a chip on his shoulder as the Celtics guard enters his first matchup with the Bucks but noted that a heads-up in September from Milwaukee that he was going to be traded would have been appreciated.

"No," Holiday said matter-of-factly Wednesday morning when asked whether he held a grudge toward the Bucks. "I think that they got what they wanted, so I can't be mad at that.

"A warning would've been cool. But other than that, I'm in the best place that I can be to compete against them, which is for the top team in the East and, hopefully, the top team in the league."

"It's going to be weird seeing him in a Celtic uniform, but I guess we got to get used to it," Middleton said with a smile after Milwaukee's shootaround. "But it's going to be fun competing against him. We've had a lot of great battles together, so I know what he's about on the Celtics' side. I think it should be a fun, interesting matchup for sure."

While Holiday made it clear he would have liked to have been told about the possibility of being traded, he said he didn't have this game targeted above any other on the calendar. Instead, he said, the focus on Wednesday's showdown isn't because of him or Lillard, but instead because the Celtics and Bucks are seen as two of the NBA's elite teams.

"It's not like I circled this one on my calendar or anything," Holiday said. "I think that this is a big game because of the two teams that are playing, I think because of the caliber players that are on the court and all that, so that's what I would like for it to be about, not me playing against the Bucks."

Speaking on his time with the Bucks, Holiday said Milwaukee will "always have a piece of my heart" after winning his first NBA championship there. But he said he was able to turn the page after landing in Boston.

"I think it's been about the same once I got traded," Holiday said, when asked for his feelings on the trades now that several weeks have passed. "We do know that this is a business, and from a business standpoint, I'm in a very good position to be where I want to be, and that's to win the championship.

"So again, still happy to be here. None of that has ever changed. So yeah, I wouldn't say anything changed."
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#96 » by BroncoBuck » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:40 pm

Our defense is just so bad. One of Dame or Giannis needs a 40 point game tonight.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#97 » by Daver » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:47 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:The Celtics are the better team right now, there is no doubt about it even if we win tonight. They had 2-3 bad games lately but they showed more times than us that they already have good chemistry and elite level of offense and defense. They only struggled in clutch time like they always do for years. If their 3s do not fall and the game is close they will turn the ball over, run unstable ISOs with Tatum and Brown and look out of shorts most likely.

I want to see how they will guard Giannis and how he will react.
I want to see how Dame will help if Giannis gets stuck. Can he at least foul bait their defense or will he get the Giannis treatment?
How will they defend our PNRs? Pack the paint and pray we miss our shots or let Giannis get his and defend the rest like they did 3-4 seasons ago?
I want to see if they can still break down our defense with closed eyes. Last season they either exploited us in the transition after our bricks or generated unlimited open 3s with the exact same way especially with Brook inside. I think they averaged +20 3s on +45% in 3 games last season. We are still not athletic enough this season. If Giannis makes or misses a bucket on one end we have no one able to run back and defend quick enough.




Are the Cs that much better than the bucks though?I dont know TBH.Other than their blow out wins(2) they are a team that has also gotten extremely lucky to be 11-3 Knicks heat raps n grizs those 4 ganes very easily could of went the other way.Bucks have gotten lucky to in some of their wins also but to say boston is that much better i dont know.
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#98 » by Karsenmitsche » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:53 pm

Find out a lot tonight about what weakness poses a bigger problem, Bucks lack of wing defenders or Celtics lack of size
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Re: Game 15: Bucks at Celtics - 11/22/23 - 6:30 - ESPN/BSWI 

Post#99 » by soxperry » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:55 pm

My completely unbiased take is that we are way better
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Post#100 » by Profound23 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 9:19 pm

soxperry wrote:My completely unbiased take is that we are way better



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