PG Blazers - Win

[MVP2110]

AJJ and MarJon seem quite far from cutting Beasley's minutes. I want to be fair, so I have to say that I like Beasley's shot selection. At least offensively he looks better than Allen.

Beasley starting makes more sense with Ajax as the 5th starter as opposed to Khris. Beas gets to focus more on scoring and less on defense

[ShootingtheJ]

Could only listen to the game on the radio, so zero flavor of what it looked like. Are we more enthused, less enthused or the same about coach Grief?

team aside from Giannis was hungover in the first half (were allegedly at a club for Beasley's b-day)

finished sweating out all the booze a few minutes into the 2nd half and took over

griffin called some good timeouts to kill runs and won both challenges, but the deficit and comeback were both more on the players than any coaching changes

So another reason to cut Beasley?

[Prez]

Get ready, folks.

If the Bucks win 60 games and make it to the NBA Finals, there will be a contingent on this board who will give Griffin zero credit say all of the Buck's success was in spite of Griffin.

And it will be from the same people who are still obsessed with Bud after the Bucks lost 4-1 to a #9 seed.

If that ain't rich I don't know what is.

And then there’s another contingent of Bucks fans who wanted Bud fired, and still think it was the right call (had they not botched the replacement), but also recognize that despite all his warts and deserved firing, Bud was still miles beyond Griffin.

[HKPackFan]

2.5 quarters in I was so frustrated. I'm like.... "This is entertainment and yet I'm disgusted. Why am I watching this? Horrible defense... Sloppy TOs... Wtf..
Yup I'm gonna turn it off.... Wait.... Ugh... Ya I'm gonna turn it off... OK well... Maybe there's a chance... Ugh.. This team sucks.... F'ng brogdon of all people... Wait... Wait.. I guess I'll see how they end the 3rd quarter."


Well I did get a payoff for sticking through it. What a finish. Unbelievable they can stink for so long and then pull it out at the end. Oh man dame hitting all the fts at the end feels so good. We've choked away fts for years. He really does step it up. And Dame time against his old team is so fitting.


The team has a lot of things to fix for a successful playoff run, but at least they can somehow pull of these crazy comebacks.

[randy84]

Get ready, folks.

If the Bucks win 60 games and make it to the NBA Finals, there will be a contingent on this board who will give Griffin zero credit and say all of the Buck's success was in spite of Griffin.

And it will be from the same people who are still obsessed with Bud after the Bucks lost 4-1 to a #9 seed.

If that ain't rich I don't know what is.

We can cross that bridge when Grif gets the Bucks 60 wins and goes to the NBA finals.

[Prez]

Also put me in the camp of fans that isn’t apologizing to Bobby just because he made up later in the game for his atrocious play earlier in the game. Or for wanting us to explore trades involving him for more playoff viable defenders. He’s not an all-star, he’s not a day 1 guy like Giannis/Khris, and he has glaring weaknesses that will be exploited in the playoffs. Nobody meeting that description should be off limits in trades and it’s silly to suggest otherwise.

[HKPackFan]

Bye Malcolm... There's only one Dame time.

[Bmaasse]

Get ready, folks.

If the Bucks win 60 games and make it to the NBA Finals, there will be a contingent on this board who will give Griffin zero credit say all of the Buck's success was in spite of Griffin.

And it will be from the same people who are still obsessed with Bud after the Bucks lost 4-1 to a #9 seed.

If that ain't rich I don't know what is.

And then there’s another contingent of Bucks fans who wanted Bud fired, and still think it was the right call (had they not botched the replacement), but also recognize that despite all his warts and deserved firing, Bud was still miles beyond Griffin.

Shouldn't we wait until the season plays out before we make that assessment? I think we have the same record through the same amount of games as last season.

Everyone pretty much agreed that it would take some time for everyone to gel, you could almost make the case that we are ahead of schedule.

[Bucksmaniac]

Could only listen to the game on the radio, so zero flavor of what it looked like. Are we more enthused, less enthused or the same about coach Grief?

team aside from Giannis was hungover in the first half (were allegedly at a club for Beasley's b-day)

finished sweating out all the booze a few minutes into the 2nd half and took over

griffin called some good timeouts to kill runs and won both challenges, but the deficit and comeback were both more on the players than any coaching changes

So another reason to cut Beasley?

It worked out in the end. Worked out better than Middleton so far, of the $30 million a year contract who can’t play more than 20 mins a game.

[steger_3434]

Get ready, folks.

If the Bucks win 60 games and make it to the NBA Finals, there will be a contingent on this board who will give Griffin zero credit say all of the Buck's success was in spite of Griffin.

And it will be from the same people who are still obsessed with Bud after the Bucks lost 4-1 to a #9 seed.

If that ain't rich I don't know what is.

And then there’s another contingent of Bucks fans who wanted Bud fired, and still think it was the right call (had they not botched the replacement), but also recognize that despite all his warts and deserved firing, Bud was still miles beyond Griffin.

Shouldn't we wait until the season plays out before we make that assessment? I think we have the same record through the same amount of games as last season.

Everyone pretty much agreed that it would take some time for everyone to gel, you could almost make the case that we are ahead of schedule.

How are we ahead of schedule? Middleton has never been able to actually play meaningful minutes and while babying him he still managed to get hurt again. Giannis and dame basically take turns being the point guard. It’s been that way since game 1. I think the defense has actually gotten worse. I feel our schedule has been extremely easy and we are barely winning. In prior years I’d think maybe 1-4 teams in the league could beat us. This year it seems like 15 can easily beat us.

Strictly looking at record is equivalent of looking at ppg of a player and not taking into account he leads the league in ppg while shooting 30 times a game at 35%


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[Mtsportsfan]

Also put me in the camp of fans that isn’t apologizing to Bobby just because he made up later in the game for his atrocious play earlier in the game. Or for wanting us to explore trades involving him for more playoff viable defenders. He’s not an all-star, he’s not a day 1 guy like Giannis/Khris, and he has glaring weaknesses that will be exploited in the playoffs. Nobody meeting that description should be off limits in trades and it’s silly to suggest otherwise.

Have been and still am a fan of Bobby , but there I times its a black hole when he gets the ball ! Been fighting the idea of potential trades, but starting to come around a little. For me it has to be another big coming back!

[Bmaasse]

And then there’s another contingent of Bucks fans who wanted Bud fired, and still think it was the right call (had they not botched the replacement), but also recognize that despite all his warts and deserved firing, Bud was still miles beyond Griffin.

Shouldn't we wait until the season plays out before we make that assessment? I think we have the same record through the same amount of games as last season.

Everyone pretty much agreed that it would take some time for everyone to gel, you could almost make the case that we are ahead of schedule.

How are we ahead of schedule? Middleton has never been able to actually play meaningful minutes and while babying him he still managed to get hurt again. Giannis and dame basically take turns being the point guard. It’s been that way since game 1. I think the defense has actually gotten worse. I feel our schedule has been extremely easy and we are barely winning. In prior years I’d think maybe 1-4 teams in the league could beat us. This year it seems like 15 can easily beat us.

Strictly looking at record is equivalent of looking at ppg of a player and not taking into account he leads the league in ppg while shooting 30 times a game at 35%


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No, because ppg doesn't necessarily equate to wins, what do you value more than wins?

Also, what did you predict our record to be 20 games into this season? Were you expecting us to be undefeated?

[Bucksmaniac]

Shouldn't we wait until the season plays out before we make that assessment? I think we have the same record through the same amount of games as last season.

Everyone pretty much agreed that it would take some time for everyone to gel, you could almost make the case that we are ahead of schedule.

How are we ahead of schedule? Middleton has never been able to actually play meaningful minutes and while babying him he still managed to get hurt again. Giannis and dame basically take turns being the point guard. It’s been that way since game 1. I think the defense has actually gotten worse. I feel our schedule has been extremely easy and we are barely winning. In prior years I’d think maybe 1-4 teams in the league could beat us. This year it seems like 15 can easily beat us.

Strictly looking at record is equivalent of looking at ppg of a player and not taking into account he leads the league in ppg while shooting 30 times a game at 35%


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No, because ppg doesn't necessarily equate to wins, what do you value more than wins?

Also, what did you predict our record to be 20 games into this season? Were you expecting us to be undefeated?

I’m definitely of the belief is there’s more to be looked at than record; that said, already being great in clutch situations with this team having a couple new starters is a good sign in a sea of uncertainty otherwise.

[JonHeist]

Could only listen to the game on the radio, so zero flavor of what it looked like. Are we more enthused, less enthused or the same about coach Grief?

team aside from Giannis was hungover in the first half (were allegedly at a club for Beasley's b-day)

finished sweating out all the booze a few minutes into the 2nd half and took over

griffin called some good timeouts to kill runs and won both challenges, but the deficit and comeback were both more on the players than any coaching changes

So another reason to cut Beasley?

yeah lets cut the guy on a minimum scoring 11ppg on 70% ts



some of ya'll hate just to hate

[jschligs]

I do wonder what we’d look like had we not fired Bud and then still acquired Dame. I still think it was Buds time to go but it’s fun to think about.

[drone3]

Looking forward to the trade deadline

[Bmaasse]

How are we ahead of schedule? Middleton has never been able to actually play meaningful minutes and while babying him he still managed to get hurt again. Giannis and dame basically take turns being the point guard. It’s been that way since game 1. I think the defense has actually gotten worse. I feel our schedule has been extremely easy and we are barely winning. In prior years I’d think maybe 1-4 teams in the league could beat us. This year it seems like 15 can easily beat us.

Strictly looking at record is equivalent of looking at ppg of a player and not taking into account he leads the league in ppg while shooting 30 times a game at 35%


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No, because ppg doesn't necessarily equate to wins, what do you value more than wins?

Also, what did you predict our record to be 20 games into this season? Were you expecting us to be undefeated?

I’m definitely of the belief is there’s more to be looked at than record; that said, already being great in clutch situations with this team having a couple new starters is a good sign in a sea of uncertainty otherwise.

I agree with you, but what constantly gets lost within all of this is where we are in this season. It's still very early, and what's happening now may not be indicative of what we'll see 20 games from now.

[Milbucks96]

I do wonder what we’d look like had we not fired Bud and then still acquired Dame. I still think it was Buds time to go but it’s fun to think about.

It was time but I think if they knew they had Dame they don’t think about doing it.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

we coulda won by 30 and id still hate this team.

were basically what id describe as.... the FTD team if you added two superstars and removed literally every aspect of fun and what fans love about basketball.

and up until bogut got hurt, at least emotionally....you felt like the sky was the limit with FTD too.

this year i feel like im in a WW1 trench with my leaders telling me we got this. im trying to amp myself up but the stench of death keeps hanging over the place like geez those dead guys out there were you just telling them the same thing too?

i know its just a game. just some basketball. but i hear you this isnt fun

[ShootingtheJ]

team aside from Giannis was hungover in the first half (were allegedly at a club for Beasley's b-day)

finished sweating out all the booze a few minutes into the 2nd half and took over

griffin called some good timeouts to kill runs and won both challenges, but the deficit and comeback were both more on the players than any coaching changes

So another reason to cut Beasley?

It worked out in the end. Worked out better than Middleton so far, of the $30 million a year contract who can’t play more than 20 mins a game.

What has worked about it? Beasley has been a massive negative.