PG Bulls: Friendly Illinois Brothers conduct successful Deer hunt

[jschligs]

This is literally how the NBA works now people need to chill. Teams have amazing three point shooting night all the time. That team wins. End of story. It is ass basketball.

[jute2003]

Calling moving screens would probably help quite a bit with the overall trend in the league of spamming 3s.

We would still be old and slow and dumb though so it likely wouldn't help us much.

[fan230]

The Bucks led by about 1.5 percent in 2 point shooting. The Bulls led by about 12 percent in 3 point shooting.

Why their 3 point shooting was great and ours was considerably lower is another story, but we lost because of the large disparity in 3 point shooting.

If this pattern continues, we will lose those games, else we will win those games.

[-Jragon-]

We also lost because we were dumb enough not to beat that Giddey offer... Bulls only had to give up Caruso.. we could have beat that

[ShootingtheJ]

We also lost because we were dumb enough not to beat that Giddey offer... Bulls only had to give up Caruso.. we could have beat that

We lost because of our defense. Giddey only exacerbates those issues. They were able to hide Giddey on our 3 and D guy Prince. Problem was, Prince couldn't guard the dribble, he's an overrated defender.

[msiris]

After re-watching a little of last night, it's easy to see that, even though we're slow, so much of the defense can be fixed by simply hitting the try harder button.

They have not comprehended that for a couple years now.

[MissKhriddleton]

Eh, trying to not be as myopic about individual losses as in the past. That's just the way the league operates now, unfortunately. Just get to the playoffs healthy, give us a reason to be excited and let's roll the dice.

My man.

[-Jragon-]

We also lost because we were dumb enough not to beat that Giddey offer... Bulls only had to give up Caruso.. we could have beat that

We lost because of our defense. Giddey only exacerbates those issues. They were able to hide Giddey on our 3 and D guy Prince. Problem was, Prince couldn't guard the dribble, he's an overrated defender.

Giddey gets by everyone because he plays how KM SHOULD play... pump fake 3 after you make a couple and get easy floaters, backboard shots and assists...

[-Jragon-]

I wish someone would change Brook's nickname to Drop Step Mountain

[Bernman]

It's mostly a cop out to dismiss this game on the opponent's hot shooting. They were burning us on dribble penetration to kick out for open 3's, beating us down the court, & Vucevic was open outside cuz we were in drop w/ Brook.

Doc needs to adjust better to not just spam his top lineup as a security blanket. Mix in youth situationally. They're less bad complementing the olds who can use the ball. Play the Giannis at 5, Prince 4 lineup. And we could use a complementary trade.

Middleton would have helped the offense & rebounding. His overall impact showed up in the comparative net rating last season. But he doesn't fix the d issues. We'd just score more w/ that, Giannis hitting ft's, & finding Green when he's hot.

[-Jragon-]

Imagine being 7 ft 300 lbs with Giannis and Dame on your team and you decide it's best for your team to launch YOLO 3s and basically miss them all

[-Jragon-]

Glue Pat to the bench

[-Jragon-]

Help me if I'm overthinking.. if Brook is in drop switch coverage, why doesn't he call out switch on those drives and have that top man switch to Brooks guy so everyone else can stay home? seems like we have everyone rotate and it's too complex idk tho

[fan230]

In his post match session: Doc was asked, I think about 2 of our new acquisitions, possibly Prince and Wright. He said given their expected roles, they were good, and I am almost sure he said, golden.

[Bernman]

The offense was indeed a problem, looking further into it. They had a 114 O-rating. Last yr league average was 115.4 & it's going up. You expect the Bucks to compete for best offense in the NBA.

So you can say maybe it's different if Middleton's out there. Though having to win a shootout is not ideal. Pat was terrible from outside, Giannis on the line, & they didn't find Green. So they were off on o, maybe boards. But the d issues were real.

Ryan Dunn 3-4 from 3 tonight. He would have been perfect of Giddey. Instead, we got Taurean "concrete feet" Prince. Way to go Horst!

You can't draft Dunn while projecting a decent 3-pt shooter, let alone good, in his 1st season. I'm skeptical skill. But that'd be pure luck. He'd need to be effective independent of the shooting to say the Bucks should have taken him cuz of his instant impact.

[Ron Swanson]

Look, you guys can yell all you want about "stop making excuses with the 3PT shooting", but we out-rebounded them, killed them on points in the paint (44 to 28) and shot 62% on 2's compared to their 51%. This was literally the definition of a 3PT variance loss lol. So gimme a break with this nothing's changed since Griffin garbage. Last season we were losing games to the Magic and Hawks by 20 when they were shooting 37% from 3 on like, 28 attempts. Absolute night and day difference.

[Bernman]

LOL open shots are easier to make than contested ones. And when you give players good looks early you can put them in a rhythm. You know if you've played the game, at all. Put up more resistance, or you have nothing to say in defense, literally.

[msiris]

Look, you guys can yell all you want about "stop making excuses with the 3PT shooting", but we out-rebounded them, killed them on points in the paint (44 to 28) and shot 62% on 2's compared to their 51%. This was literally the definition of a 3PT variance loss lol. So gimme a break with this nothing's changed since Griffin garbage. Last season we were losing games to the Magic and Hawks by 20 when they were shooting 37% from 3 on like, 28 attempts. Absolute night and day difference.

The D as a whole is stll the same. The offence was better under Griff I believe. Correct me if Im wrong.

[ShootingtheJ]

Imagine being 7 ft 300 lbs with Giannis and Dame on your team and you decide it's best for your team to launch YOLO 3s and basically miss them all

Imagine the year being 2024 and thinking posting up constantly is an effective offense.

The NBA has officiated post ups out of the game

Did you ever notice that when the opposing centers make 3s against the Bucks, it instantly destroys our defense?

[raferfenix]

“I think there are definitely nights where you just say, ‘They had a night.’ I don’t think tonight was one of those nights,” Lillard said after the Bucks’ 133-122 loss. “They did make a lot of shots, but I thought we helped them.”

While the Bulls haven’t made 21 3-pointers in a game since Feb. 10, 2021, Lillard blamed the Bucks’ lack of defensive intensity, focus and execution for Chicago’s spectacular shooting night.

“We came into the game knowing they want to shoot more 3s,” Lillard said. “They got this guy, this guy, this guy and this guy that can shoot. And we closed short. We didn’t help each other. We didn’t rotate sometimes. A couple of times, guys going downhill, we see the back of their jersey, we know that it’s a big popping that can shoot, we’re supposed to late switch and we kept chasing the guy and they throw it back. There’s no way a big is going to get back to that.”

Newcomer Taurean Prince admitted he was not good enough at the point of attack.

“Start with myself. Gotta be better on the ball,” Prince said. “There was a lot of times where Giddey was getting downhill and penetrating our defense and causing bigs to come over and causing rotation on the backside, so I put a lot of that on myself, especially the first half and in the third quarter.

“So I’ll take accountability for that. I think if I guard the ball a lot better, a lot of stuff doesn’t happen. A lot of the spurts where they were rolling, I think those would have been held to a minimum. So it always starts on the ball, so I’ll take this one.”

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5873873/2024/10/26/bucks-bulls-damian-lillard-giannis/?source=weeklyemail&campaign=602288&userId=6188822