PG Pacers - Wire to Wire

Post #81 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:31 pm

Team is now 5-1 in their last six and their DIFF is almost even. Still early, but credit to Giannis and the staff for adjusting.

Might be able to once again listen to NBA pods a week from now.

drone3 · Post #82 » by **drone3** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:41 pm

Finally some great chemistry. Dame - Giannis were vibing.

Team got cocky with the big lead, need to build the maturity and focus to stay composed for the whole game.

Livingston is a machine.. Why aren't we using him

Post #83 » by **Prez** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 12:56 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Prez wrote:Haliburton is straight booty cheeks dawg lmao

He looks shook. There were a bunch of times tonight where he had easy scoring chances at the rim and just passed out for less efficient looks.

Yep, add to it his awful defense and it’s just been nasty stuff for a while now with him

Plossum · Post #84 » by **Plossum** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:01 pm

Hard to feel sorry for Hali after he carried on like a pork chop last year.

Neuromancer56 · Post #85 » by **Neuromancer56** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:36 pm

I just realized that overnight the Bucks are fun to watch again. I like these high energy having fun kind of Bucks.

mattg · Post #86 » by **mattg** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 1:52 pm

Prez wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Prez wrote:Haliburton is straight booty cheeks dawg lmao

He looks shook. There were a bunch of times tonight where he had easy scoring chances at the rim and just passed out for less efficient looks.

Yep, add to it his awful defense and it’s just been nasty stuff for a while now with him

He's been legitimately bad since last January. Think the injury has hampered him a bit, and he's 100% relaxed/gotten lazy since getting paid too.

Also, it feels like teams have figured him out on film a little bit. Haliburton basically tries to go left every single ball screen and he's looking to pass out of it/not looking to attack the rim hard. If he can't penetrate left he goes to a step back to set up his 3 but defenses are sitting on that way more (and his release point makes it harder for him to get his shot off without crazy separation or a great fake).

Oh, and he's legitimately not getting like 3 free assists per game throwing passes to Buddy Hield like he had been.

If this is who Haliburton is going forward then that Kings/Pacers trade which was the rare Win/Win becomes a pretty clear Kings win with how Fox has continued to develop.

soxperry · Post #87 » by **soxperry** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:43 pm

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LUKE23 · Post #88 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 2:57 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Team is now 5-1 in their last six and their DIFF is almost even. Still early, but credit to Giannis and the staff for adjusting.

Might be able to once again listen to NBA pods a week from now.

6 straight if they aren’t **** by the refs in Charlotte. Keep it rolling.

emunney · Post #89 » by **emunney** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:34 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:We shouldn't care that they're playing much better?

The fake one month award crap

If NBA.com and KOC are going to put out stupid lists, I'm going to laugh at the stupid lists.

4th on the MVP ladder is pretty good for a sub-.500 team. We know from the past few years though that we could be 12-4 and he'd still be 3rd.

KOC is just a bad analyst.

ShootingtheJ · Post #90 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:49 pm

MiltownMadness wrote:Interesting stat: Green was -22 today and the next closest was Wright at -9. Basically our bad runs just coincided with Green minutes, wonder what happened there

Completely coincidencidental. Ugly turmover by others lead to transition.

soxperry · Post #91 » by **soxperry** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:54 pm

No Khris
Dame looked okay as a scorer but still missed a handful of shots he usually makes.

We took the foot off the gas a couple times but basically we won these games with intensity, focus, defense, ball movement, and Giannis being Giannis.

Vibes are great. Shot selection is great for the most part. And we still have lots of room for improvement.

Great win and a very promising sign for our title chances.

ShootingtheJ · Post #92 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 3:56 pm

MiltownMadness wrote:Need some people to take back the "Dame is a SG" slander. The offense is going to keep getting better as the season goes on, we won't be hovering around 20th for long. Dame also won't be cold from 3 for long

Dame has shot 32%, 37%, and 35%, the 3 previous seasons, and is at 32% this year. There's no evidence that Dame at this age is still a top 3 point shooter. He also continues to commit ugly turnovers, and plays at way too slow off pace. I love it when Giannis brings the ball up, because we get into our actions quicker.

Yeah, we're fine with Dame, but we'd be fine with a bunch of other PGs too, guys who don't make anywhere near $48.7 million, and guys that aren't clearly in decline.

Even after one of his best games of the year, Dame's warts are evident.

Siefer · Post #93 » by **Siefer** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:21 pm

KOC always strikes me as a guy trying to mirror how the good analysts talk without really understanding what goes into their comments. I don't know if he believes half of what he says.

Loved how Bobby played for most of the first half, then he started to regress to the ISO post ups on the block again. It's night and day how much more effective he is when he's providing spacing and putbacks instead of gobbling up possessions.

ShootingtheJ · Post #94 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:54 pm

Siefer wrote:
Loved how Bobby played for most of the first half, then he started to regress to the ISO post ups on the block again. It's night and day how much more effective he is when he's providing spacing and putbacks instead of gobbling up possessions.

Agree, but some of those postups came after he got the ball late in the shot clock. I hope Bobby keeps rolling from 3 to make up for the slow start, it's what separates him from other similar players, and is need to make up for his defense.

BigO · Post #95 » by **BigO** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:09 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:We shouldn't care that they're playing much better?

They are playing better. I'll be interested to see how they do against Miami.

BigO · Post #96 » by **BigO** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:12 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Siefer wrote:
Loved how Bobby played for most of the first half, then he started to regress to the ISO post ups on the block again. It's night and day how much more effective he is when he's providing spacing and putbacks instead of gobbling up possessions.

Agree, but some of those postups came after he got the ball late in the shot clock. I hope Bobby keeps rolling from 3 to make up for the slow start, it's what separates him from other similar players, and is need to make up for his defense.

This idea that BP posts up on his own is pure fiction. They want him to aggressively post up. One of reasons he had a lot of assists the other night was because the other team was doubling him.

You may not like that he's posting up (I do), but that's not something he's doing on his own. Bud did the same thing with him.

buckboy · Post #97 » by **buckboy** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:24 pm

KidA24 wrote:Novak is that friend who gets two drinks in them and then has to tell you a story, but can't actually remember the story so they just keep talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking and talking.

I had a friend who was good friends with Steve. I hung out with him several times.

This post is absolutely on point.

Dick Tate · Post #98 » by **Dick Tate** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:35 pm

I thought Novak had a very tune-outable delivery. By the 2nd half, it was like he wasn’t even there.

JEIS · Post #99 » by **JEIS** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 5:36 pm

Bucks half court offense is so much better, since like the last 6 min of the Hornets game. Two plays in a row they passed the ball like 5 or 6 times in one possession... Was wondering where the heck did that come from? I really think the passing has helped the players become more engaged on both sides of the ball. It really seems to be building more team chemistry. Has been way more enjoyable basketball to watch.

Thanasis has been around, might be bringing another level of chemistry/ comfort with Giannis.

Bucks have been more aggressive getting to the hoop and getting after rebounds. Seeing Dame, Brook and Giannis on the floor battling for the ball...just playing a lot more selfless basketball.

ShootingtheJ · Post #100 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Sat Nov 23, 2024 6:23 pm

JEIS wrote:Bucks half court offense is so much better, since like the last 6 min of the Hornets game. Two plays in a row they passed the ball like 5 or 6 times in one possession... Was wondering where the heck did that come from? I really think the passing has helped the players become more engaged on both sides of the ball. It really seems to be building more team chemistry. Has been way more enjoyable basketball to watch.

Thanasis has been around, might be bringing another level of chemistry/ comfort with Giannis.

Bucks have been more aggressive getting to the hoop and getting after rebounds. Seeing Dame, Brook and Giannis on the floor battling for the ball...just playing a lot more selfless basketball.

They're less hesitant with more reps of what Doc has been trying to install and teach. The DHOs bring movement, and now they're learning the reads off those actions. Doc saying in camp he needed to teach them to play was on point, and the early season lessons were excruciating but necessary.

I'm not saying Doc is a great coach, but those calling him a terrible coach were ignoring history.