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Post#81 » by JEIS » Sun Nov 24, 2024 10:19 pm

fansinceforever wrote:Unfortunately, Middleton is definitely not the difference in blowing leads like this. Lamelo and Brandon Miller are both pretty damn good scorers. Sometimes those guys are just going to get theirs.

That said, whoever proposed playing Taurean at 4 and moving Bobby for the best big defensive 4( 4/5 would be better) that we can get seems like the best move they can realistically make.

I'd love to figure out a way to get Laravia and/or Aldama here but nothing works in trade machine. Even if it did, Grizz wouldn't be interested.



He might be. As a 3rd option, he might get some pretty open shots, as long as the team keeps passing the ball well. Could prevent the drouts and take the pressure off of Dame to have to be the man.
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Post#82 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:14 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:Middleton is the smartest player in Bucks history. Of course he'd be a huge asset protecting a lead.


Sam Cassel has questions... so does Kukoc.


Cassel was a knob. Kukoc was genius, but wasn't a Buck very long.
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Post#83 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:20 pm

German Athens wrote:I think Eason will eventually get up to 20ppg while being a top 10 defender, and a top 5 turnover machine.

Like he has legit all-star upside.

He has a significant restriction on his ceiling due to his lack of playmaking for others, but I think if you got him in the right offensive structure around a couple high end scorers/playmakers he would thrive.


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Eason continues to play under 23 minutes a game, and is stuck behind another young player. I really believe he's available. We just have to go find what Houston is looking for. They need offense. Who's the young scorer that would get Houston to move Eason?

Houston really set themselves back by wasting that pick on Sheppard.
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Post#84 » by soxperry » Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:36 pm

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German Athens wrote:I think Eason will eventually get up to 20ppg while being a top 10 defender, and a top 5 turnover machine.

Like he has legit all-star upside.

He has a significant restriction on his ceiling due to his lack of playmaking for others, but I think if you got him in the right offensive structure around a couple high end scorers/playmakers he would thrive.


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Eason continues to play under 23 minutes a game, and is stuck behind another young player. I really believe he's available. We just have to go find what Houston is looking for. They need offense. Who's the young scorer that would get Houston to move Eason?

Houston really set themselves back by wasting that pick on Sheppard.


couldn't that young scorer just turn out to be Sheppard?

but honestly, they are much more than a piece or two away. they drafted well, have a good coach, and yet they are just not competing with OKC or Boston any time soon. It's tough out there.
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Post#85 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Nov 24, 2024 11:51 pm

soxperry wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
German Athens wrote:I think Eason will eventually get up to 20ppg while being a top 10 defender, and a top 5 turnover machine.

Like he has legit all-star upside.

He has a significant restriction on his ceiling due to his lack of playmaking for others, but I think if you got him in the right offensive structure around a couple high end scorers/playmakers he would thrive.


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Eason continues to play under 23 minutes a game, and is stuck behind another young player. I really believe he's available. We just have to go find what Houston is looking for. They need offense. Who's the young scorer that would get Houston to move Eason?

Houston really set themselves back by wasting that pick on Sheppard.


couldn't that young scorer just turn out to be Sheppard?

but honestly, they are much more than a piece or two away. they drafted well, have a good coach, and yet they are just not competing with OKC or Boston any time soon. It's tough out there.



Sheppard can't get his own shot, and he's slow. I just don't see it. Do others? I don't think he's crafty either.
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Post#86 » by Frank Nova » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:31 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Middleton is the smartest player in Bucks history. Of course he'd be a huge asset protecting a lead.


Sam Cassel has questions... so does Kukoc.


Cassel was a knob. Kukoc was genius, but wasn't a Buck very long.


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Post#87 » by SlimShady83 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:52 am

Laker fan, just wondeirng are you guys looking to trade Lopez at all b4 deadline or even In off season, If so what's his asking price??
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Post#88 » by Licensed to Il » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:55 am

Cassell was ugly but super smart.
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Post#89 » by theFireBlanket » Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:47 am

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Post#90 » by -Jragon- » Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:23 am

Bernman wrote:Middleton would have slowed things down, taken a shot later in the clock & he makes them contested. Set records for mid-range shooting last yr. It's asinine to claim he wouldn't make an impact in protecting leads, slumpbusting, & many other areas.





Since noone else will; I'll take attendance. Khris was present when we were up on the Heat by 15 almost every game with like 5 min in the 4th.. his turnovers, complaining to refs (instead of getting back on D), and lack of defense/hustle, and refusal to stop taking/bricking long contested 2s (instead of taking the ball inside for a higher% shot and higher % chance to get fouled) hurt our chances to keep those leads.

Dame is the upgraded artificial intelligence model that has all these bugs worked out and he should control the ball/play at the end of games instead of chuck a quick shot Giannis or dribble foot KM. But he should also be looking for them once some clock is gone and the D crashes on him.
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Post#91 » by -Jragon- » Mon Nov 25, 2024 7:25 am

Off topic... I'd love to see Dame get his 40 shots up like Lamello did and let him get cooking like he can and get 60 pnts... if we see him heat up I hope his teammates demand it
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Post#92 » by raferfenix » Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:50 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan, just wondeirng are you guys looking to trade Lopez at all b4 deadline or even In off season, If so what's his asking price??


Welcome. I think Lopez is pretty valued still in Milwaukee and that we view his ending contract as a positive since we can bring him back for far less and cut cap while easing him in to a bench role (like Boston did with Al Horford).

Certainly not impossible we are enticed to trade Brook but considering his age idk if the Lakers would deal the kind of picks you’d need to. I’ve been high on Vanderbilt as a fit here but the injuries appear to be a big problem, and the other players you could deal just don’t seem like the best fits.

Bobby Portis would be far cheaper comparatively, if you think the Lakers might be interested?
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Post#93 » by Frank Nova » Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:35 pm

Who’s the big wing defender we can sick on Tatum/Butler/Mitchell in a playoff series ala 2020/21 Pj Tucker? We didn’t think anyone would ever want Dj Augustine or Dj Wilson and we used them to help acquire someone that was instrumental in winning a title. Same thing this year with Pat C and Marjon. We’re likely going to throw in that 2031 1st and someone will eventually bite just like Houston did. Who’s the player tho? It sure as hell ain’t Torrey Craig, I do know that much.
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Post#94 » by chonestown » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:24 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:Sheppard can't get his own shot, and he's slow. I just don't see it. Do others? I don't think he's crafty either.


KOC do, so much he rated him as his favorite player of the 2024 class.

Sheppard because he has a flamethrower jumper and causes chaos on defense with his deflections, steals, and blocks. Sheppard might be on the smaller side, but if he falls into an ideal situation (like the Spurs or Rockets), then that won’t matter as much. Sheppard’s shooting ability alone could make him the best player in the class.


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Post#95 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:26 pm

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German Athens wrote:I think Eason will eventually get up to 20ppg while being a top 10 defender, and a top 5 turnover machine.

Like he has legit all-star upside.

He has a significant restriction on his ceiling due to his lack of playmaking for others, but I think if you got him in the right offensive structure around a couple high end scorers/playmakers he would thrive.


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Eason continues to play under 23 minutes a game, and is stuck behind another young player. I really believe he's available. We just have to go find what Houston is looking for. They need offense. Who's the young scorer that would get Houston to move Eason?

Houston really set themselves back by wasting that pick on Sheppard.


I wonder if Houston would want Kumminga? Some sort of 3 way with Bobby and the 2031 pick going to GSW and Eason here? More salary slot details to work out here.
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Post#96 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Nov 25, 2024 3:36 pm

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I mean, some of us were campaigning hard that Cam Johnson would be the ideal small-ball 4 for this roster. Looks like that ship may have sailed and his price just sky-rocketed though....

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Post#97 » by LuessiT » Mon Nov 25, 2024 4:28 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Laker fan, just wondeirng are you guys looking to trade Lopez at all b4 deadline or even In off season, If so what's his asking price??


From Bucks FO pov, Brook is a valueable starter. I think they're not that interested in moving him, but if they were, the Bucks would need a starting level big back. Which makes things difficult, because why are teams trading similar players.

So from the Bucks pov a few possible scenarios why we would trade Brook:

1) Shed salary to avoid second apron
2) Get a player with longer contract back
3) Get a non-big back, acquire a big another way
4) Move Giannis to the 5, get a 4 back
5) Improve/Grass is greener on the other side

All those are possible scenarios. I think the Bucks are likely to make a trade. For 1) there are easier ways (e.g. trade Pat) For 2) it would need a team that wants to shed long term salary to make a play for a FA 3) If the Bucks can acquire a starting big another way (e.g. via Pat or Portis), Lopez could fetch another need - though I don't see many players fitting into those salary slots 4) This could be a way, though no immediate fit comes to mind 5) Bucks could trade up. E.g. Pöltl fits into Brooks contract slot.

Generally as a second apron team, making moves is hard. Two second apron teams making moves with another is REALLY hard. I don't think the Lakers possible outgoings solve any need for the Bucks. The Bucks are looking for players that are happy to do the dirty work (especially defensively) but aren't liabilities on offense (so no Vanderbilt), especially from 3.
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Post#98 » by pifhluk23 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:04 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Figuring out the rotation when Khris comes back is a good "problem" to have. He'll definitely come off the bench initially but I'm anxious to see Giannis/Dame/Khris lineups. If I'm forced to cut minutes between Green and AJJ I'd cut AJJ.


Prince should be on this discussion too. His inability to defend off the dribble is killer versus good teams. Also, his inevitable 3 point regression will be painful, unless he's developed into Kyle Korver over 1 offseason.


3s always seem to go in more often in the last year of a contract :wink:
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Post#99 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:09 pm

pifhluk23 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Figuring out the rotation when Khris comes back is a good "problem" to have. He'll definitely come off the bench initially but I'm anxious to see Giannis/Dame/Khris lineups. If I'm forced to cut minutes between Green and AJJ I'd cut AJJ.


Prince should be on this discussion too. His inability to defend off the dribble is killer versus good teams. Also, his inevitable 3 point regression will be painful, unless he's developed into Kyle Korver over 1 offseason.


3s always seem to go in more often in the last year of a contract :wink:



Agree 100%, but he was in a contract year last year too.
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Post#100 » by EasyE31 » Mon Nov 25, 2024 9:49 pm

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German Athens wrote:I think Eason will eventually get up to 20ppg while being a top 10 defender, and a top 5 turnover machine.

Like he has legit all-star upside.

He has a significant restriction on his ceiling due to his lack of playmaking for others, but I think if you got him in the right offensive structure around a couple high end scorers/playmakers he would thrive.


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Eason continues to play under 23 minutes a game, and is stuck behind another young player. I really believe he's available. We just have to go find what Houston is looking for. They need offense. Who's the young scorer that would get Houston to move Eason?

Houston really set themselves back by wasting that pick on Sheppard.


Bucks get: Tari Eason
Rockets get: Cam Johnson
Nets get: Pat Connaughton, Marjon, 2025 2nd from Houston, 2031 1st from Milwaukee

Gets the Bucks below the 2nd apron, opens a spot to sign Rollins to a multi year deal, and adds Eason into the rotation.

Lillard/Rollins/Wright
GTJ/Green
Middleton/Prince/AJAX
Giannis/Eason
Lopez/Portis

Then at the deadline you can package Bobby and some other salary to bring back another impact player.

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