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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#81 » by Bernman » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:19 am

bucksfansince88 wrote:We need a big strong athletic switchable big that can protect the rim. How Can we get Jalen Duren


That doesn't describe Duren. He's a sub-par defender. Similar to what Drummond was. You're physically profiling him.

And no we couldn't get him anyway for something viable we'd give up.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#82 » by blazza18 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:19 am

Think we need someone like a Rondo to be on the bench and get in Dame's ear to calm him down when he gets frustrated. That more than anything completely killed his night and took him out of the game. And even if it didn't get reversed Doc should've managed the situation better and backed him up and challenged his foul on Tatum where he stripped the ball.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#83 » by BigO » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:20 am

Thoughts:

1) I hate the way the game has evolved. Out of 87 shots the Celtics took, 53 were 3 pointers. That's obscene. Give them credit for building a team to fit the times.

2) One of the few games the Bucks have rebounded well. BP with 18 and for you posters who like to keep tabs on plus minus (it's fools gold) when it serves your narrative, BP had the highest +/-.

3) Given the Celtics took over 60% of their shots from 3, I find it odd that the teams shot the same number of free throws.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#84 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:20 am

You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other
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Post#85 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:21 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
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MiltownMadness wrote:We need to make a BP trade, really. Bobby has a special place in my heart but it's time if we want to be serious

We NEED another switchable big. It's a necessity


I don't think a big helps you much against Boston. A quick combo forward would.

That combo forward could play PF in a small ball lineup. We need to be switchable vs them, that's all


Yup, we agree, except I wouldn't call that a small ball lineup. Giannis, 2 forwards, and 2 guards is legit size.

In the past, it was Giannis and 4- 6'4" guys.
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Post#86 » by Matches Malone » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:21 am

If you watched the games, I don't think you'd be propping up BP the way you have been, but you do you.
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Post#87 » by Lippo » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:24 am

Way to ruin a 9 gamecwin streak Khris. 2-10, ugh.... should have let him play against a scrub team to get the rust off.
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Post#88 » by BigO » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:24 am

MickeyDavis wrote:You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other


It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.
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Post#89 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:27 am

It's not like Bobby wasn't good in the past, the people who are **** on him are doing it with good reason and are usually in GT's commenting on the eyesore in real time. We're not idiots. The lack of sense Bobby makes on this roster is obvious.
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Post#90 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:28 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other


It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.

True, but Giannis makes enough dumb decisions that questioning his BBIQ isn't unreasonable.
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Post#91 » by fansinceforever » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:29 am

I think lapses in judgement is a lot closer to the truth than him just having low bball IQ. Giannis spams his most efficient shots most of the time and turns the ball over relatively infrequently compared to a lot of people who have the ball as often as he does.

It's not a fair assessment of his game but it's one repeated here often.
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Post#92 » by Ruben Quevedo » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:29 am

Green was on the court for 22 minutes. Shot 2 incredibly difficult 3’s and made them both. We made zero attempt to leverage his shooting. Did he set a single off ball screen? It’s coaching malpractice. When he’s on the floor the defense should be made to account for him on every possession.
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Post#93 » by BroncoBuck » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:31 am

MickeyDavis wrote:
BigO wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other


It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.

True, but Giannis makes enough dumb decisions that questioning his BBIQ isn't unreasonable.


It’s why we aren’t able to play him at the 5 for anything other than short spurts. Too many mental lapses and poor decisions. He’s a freelancer, but everyone is (and rightfully should be) willing to live with that.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#94 » by KidA24 » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:34 am

BigO wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other


It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.


Giannis is a low bbiq player, especially for a superstar.

He consistently makes the wrong basketball play and plays incredibly selfish way too often.

He doesn't see the plays before they develop or even as they develop. His good passes are regularly half a beat late and off target.

He is a defensive force of nature because of his physical gifts. However, he is constantly caught ball watching, missing rotations and cheating towards the rim to hoard rebounds instead of closing out and boxing out.

If you take the ten best guys in the league, Giannis is probably the lowest bbiq.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#95 » by msiris » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:35 am

MickeyDavis wrote:
BigO wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other


It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.

True, but Giannis makes enough dumb decisions that questioning his BBIQ isn't unreasonable.
I have called him out in the past. you have to play the good teams smarterSame for Dame.
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Post#96 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:36 am

Giannis has a very dynamic BBIQ, you don't get a reputation as best help defender if you aren't very smart on one end of the ball. His offensive BBIQ fluctuates VERY often. You can't tell me that dude who won it all in 2021 was low BBIQ. He is a weird one
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#97 » by Be Here Now » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:36 am

Bobby spotted the Celtics at least 10 in the first half. Clanked wide open 3's, missed bunnies, horrible defense. He may be the worst 6/7th man of any playoff team. Would love to get something for him but at this point it's addition by subtraction.

Dame gets one of the worst whistles in the L. I don't get it. At this point I'm convinced refs are just conspiring against giving him continuation.

Doris Burke cannot be a national broadcaster and call C's games. She just can't. I love Jon Mcglocklin, but her temper tantrum about Tatum's clear offensive foul in the first reminded me of something he would have said during the dark years. She's an embarrassment.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#98 » by BigO » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:37 am

Matches Malone wrote:If you watched the games, I don't think you'd be propping up BP the way you have been, but you do you.


Of course I do me. Is there an alternative?

I do watch most of the games and I'm pretty sure the coaches and front office (the ones who put him on the court on a regular basis, but clearly don't have the BBIQ of some posters) watch also. In fact, I'd bet they watch all the games.


I do admit that I enjoy rankling the BP haters.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#99 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:40 am

KidA24 wrote:
BigO wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other


It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.


Giannis is a low bbiq player, especially for a superstar.

He consistently makes the wrong basketball play and plays incredibly selfish way too often.

He doesn't see the plays before they develop or even as they develop. His good passes are regularly half a beat late and off target.

He is a defensive force of nature because of his physical gifts. However, he is constantly caught ball watching, missing rotations and cheating towards the rim to hoard rebounds instead of closing out and boxing out.

If you take the ten best guys in the league, Giannis is probably the lowest bbiq.



Giannis is a far smarter player than Tatum.
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Re: PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade 

Post#100 » by MiltownMadness » Sat Dec 7, 2024 3:42 am

Uhm, the guy who has never made an ECF but won an MVP? Anthony Davis is also not smarter than Giannis on a bball court, Anthony Edwards? LOL. He'd have us ripping hair hair out half the time

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