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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#81 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:20 am

That looked like a very tough shot given the defense.

Is there a more unguardable shot than Giannis driving, stopping, and dunking on someone's head? Just do that.
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Post#82 » by kanyon » Fri Jan 3, 2025 5:42 am

Anyone have a clip of the end of the 3rd? Trent hit that 3 but it didn't count. Just want to see it again.

Rollins and Marjon played pretty well.
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Re: PG Nets - Comeback Falls Short 

Post#83 » by Plossum » Fri Jan 3, 2025 6:56 am

We’re just a meh team. This is going to be our season. Ups and downs and about 44-50 wins (I hope).

Best case scenario is we get into the playoffs in good health then have a Miami 23 type run where we get hot at the right time.
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Post#84 » by -Jragon- » Fri Jan 3, 2025 7:27 am

Khris leaves the game in the 3rd and we're down 20, we get it to within 10. In the 4th, KM comes back in -- down 10 -- and blink then we're down 20 again. KM leaves and we go on a run and almost win. When are the KM crew going to see there is more to basketball than what KM provides and that young, fast teams are a terrible matchup for him. He's very expendable, at this point.
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Post#85 » by AussieBuck » Fri Jan 3, 2025 7:56 am

Always fun watching later and seeing what people who watched live together say. I can't see a boxscore while watching on delay so I guess I don't know the stats watching, but man the first couple of pages of the post game thread are always a fun surprise.

Nobody but Giannis and young dudes took this game seriously, that's the whole thing.
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Post#86 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Jan 3, 2025 8:00 am

-Jragon- wrote:Khris leaves the game in the 3rd and we're down 20, we get it to within 10. In the 4th, KM comes back in -- down 10 -- and blink then we're down 20 again. KM leaves and we go on a run and almost win. When are the KM crew going to see there is more to basketball than what KM provides and that young, fast teams are a terrible matchup for him. He's very expendable, at this point.


The rest of us a actually watched the game. Dame went 6-20 while playing pathetic defense and turning the ball over. Brook was exposed too. Khris just spent too much time on the court with them.

We see that young, fast teams are too much for Dame. He can't even get the ball up the court against them. He got worked by D'Angelo Russel. He's not worth even half his contract.
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Post#87 » by AussieBuck » Fri Jan 3, 2025 8:00 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Dame wanted to go to Miami and play with Bam. Jimmy wants out of Miami, played ball at Marquette, and is Giannis's kind of lunatic. This is the move.

I think I'd go for this brand of crazy. I remain madly in love with the idea of Dame, but it does seem the version we got is early-mid-life-crisis guy and he's just going to be a peak Middleton kinda guy for a year or two. Jimmy can at least give us a stupid media day hairdo and a more believable dream of him giving a **** about things that matter to winning in the playoffs.
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Post#88 » by old skool » Fri Jan 3, 2025 8:05 am

I don't think any of the proposed trades easily work under the CBA. The Bucks cannot take back any salary and they cannot aggregate contracts. Bucks can only trade one player at a time and the contract(s) they receive in return must be lower in cost than the one contract they send out. Correct me if I am mistaken.

Past all of that, would the Bucks want to part with Lillard for potentially half a season of Jimmy Butler? Should Butler leave for greener pastures, I think the Bucks would still be in 2nd Apron hell until 2026-27? If he signs a free agent contract with the Bucks, they get to deal with his regular absences and aging body. I'm not seeing a good path there. Could lead to GA asking for a trade.
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Post#89 » by mediocrityrules » Fri Jan 3, 2025 8:27 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:Dame wanted to go to Miami and play with Bam. Jimmy wants out of Miami, played ball at Marquette, and is Giannis's kind of lunatic. This is the move.

I think I'd go for this brand of crazy. I remain madly in love with the idea of Dame, but it does seem the version we got is early-mid-life-crisis guy and he's just going to be a peak Middleton kinda guy for a year or two. Jimmy can at least give us a stupid media day hairdo and a more believable dream of him giving a **** about things that matter to winning in the playoffs.


This is exactly where I am too. I love the idea of him, but he's clearly not the player he was (right now anyway). Seems to only be able to be effective in short bursts. Maybe he needs to be playing 30 mins a night max nowadays?

He also clearly can't handle too much pressure on him as a ball carrier right now. He wilts on the court when he gets harassed by some of the young guys guarding him.
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Post#90 » by -Jragon- » Fri Jan 3, 2025 8:50 am

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-Jragon- wrote:Khris leaves the game in the 3rd and we're down 20, we get it to within 10. In the 4th, KM comes back in -- down 10 -- and blink then we're down 20 again. KM leaves and we go on a run and almost win. When are the KM crew going to see there is more to basketball than what KM provides and that young, fast teams are a terrible matchup for him. He's very expendable, at this point.


The rest of us a actually watched the game. Dame went 6-20 while playing pathetic defense and turning the ball over. Brook was exposed too. Khris just spent too much time on the court with them.

We see that young, fast teams are too much for Dame. He can't even get the ball up the court against them. He got worked by D'Angelo Russel. He's not worth even half his contract.


The only problem with your theory here is that, again, in the 4th quarter KM comes in and the Nets lead expands from 10 to 20, right? KM left with 6 min, and we made up those 20 points WITH Dame on the floor scoring around half of those points. While he, indeed, missed shots, he also was disruptive all over the floor, demanded a lot of attention, made a couple big shots and drew a couple big fouls. Plus, Dame being doubled almost every time he got the ball led to a lot of space for other guys to get their shots off. Dame is having a rough time shooting, but still is an animal at getting fouls, making the FTs and making big shots.. he still is Him.

KM being in the game proved to be a tank job that spotted the Nets too many points to overcome. Our whole style of play looks different with KM; maybe it's more organized as they say but we also look like an old man team with him in (and BP). His guy, in the 4th, blew by him for dunks and layups.. KMs lack of speed/athleticism causes zero disruption, just a traffic cone/chair to go around. He was so bad that EVEN MB looked like a competent player in comparison -- just by moving around and being a disrupter. That's what GA and Dame need around them -- not traffic cones/chairs. Dame and GA thrive on a bit of chaos and need dudes that fly around and get loose balls/turnovers/etc to get rolling. Trading KM and BP for disruptive players (that are also competent) makes us instantly better as they would likely be better than MB and PC (who almost closed that game as a win) which is a low bar.
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Post#91 » by -Jragon- » Fri Jan 3, 2025 9:35 am

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AussieBuck wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Dame wanted to go to Miami and play with Bam. Jimmy wants out of Miami, played ball at Marquette, and is Giannis's kind of lunatic. This is the move.

I think I'd go for this brand of crazy. I remain madly in love with the idea of Dame, but it does seem the version we got is early-mid-life-crisis guy and he's just going to be a peak Middleton kinda guy for a year or two. Jimmy can at least give us a stupid media day hairdo and a more believable dream of him giving a **** about things that matter to winning in the playoffs.


This is exactly where I am too. I love the idea of him, but he's clearly not the player he was (right now anyway). Seems to only be able to be effective in short bursts. Maybe he needs to be playing 30 mins a night max nowadays?

He also clearly can't handle too much pressure on him as a ball carrier right now. He wilts on the court when he gets harassed by some of the young guys guarding him.



With Dame you still get the gym freak. That's a big difference between him and past prime KM. He still has speed , quickness and athleticism and he is still disruptive on both sides with that. KMs days of any athleticism are gone, think traffic cone.

Dame getting doubled to get the ball out of his hands and never getting it back is a coaching failure to me. There should be secondary actions that get the ball back in his hands at an advantageous position going downhill with cutters and corner 3 guys ready. Teams are obviously setting up a gambit to let ANYONE BUT DAME get hot. Do you think they do that to players past their prime?
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Post#92 » by AussieBuck » Fri Jan 3, 2025 10:24 am

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AussieBuck wrote:I think I'd go for this brand of crazy. I remain madly in love with the idea of Dame, but it does seem the version we got is early-mid-life-crisis guy and he's just going to be a peak Middleton kinda guy for a year or two. Jimmy can at least give us a stupid media day hairdo and a more believable dream of him giving a **** about things that matter to winning in the playoffs.


This is exactly where I am too. I love the idea of him, but he's clearly not the player he was (right now anyway). Seems to only be able to be effective in short bursts. Maybe he needs to be playing 30 mins a night max nowadays?

He also clearly can't handle too much pressure on him as a ball carrier right now. He wilts on the court when he gets harassed by some of the young guys guarding him.



With Dame you still get the gym freak. That's a big difference between him and past prime KM. He still has speed , quickness and athleticism and he is still disruptive on both sides with that. KMs days of any athleticism are gone, think traffic cone.

Dame getting doubled to get the ball out of his hands and never getting it back is a coaching failure to me. There should be secondary actions that get the ball back in his hands at an advantageous position going downhill with cutters and corner 3 guys ready. Teams are obviously setting up a gambit to let ANYONE BUT DAME get hot. Do you think they do that to players past their prime?

Jesus man, Dame is a **** defender, just stop with this **** you do.
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Post#93 » by rilamann » Fri Jan 3, 2025 11:23 am

I have said it a bunch of times and I will continue to say it as long as he is a Buck.

I have no clue how anyone with even a decent understanding of basketball can actually enjoy watching Lillard play.

Damn is 110% about looking good individually and collecting a pay check. He's the classic rather look good and lose guy if there ever was one.

I get how casuals like him, he hits really cool 3's from the logo sometimes and wins the 3pt shootout. Casuals love that ****.

But he's not a winner, never has been.
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Post#94 » by rilamann » Fri Jan 3, 2025 11:26 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Dame and Bobby for Jimmy and Herro


Bucks go from Slim chance to maybe win a first round playoff series if they are healthy and get the perfect match-up.

To Boston's greatest threat in the east if they pulled off that trade.


What's crazy is there are a lot Bucks fans that would scoff at that trade.
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Post#95 » by yannisk » Fri Jan 3, 2025 11:54 am

Plossum wrote:We’re just a meh team. This is going to be our season. Ups and downs and about 44-50 wins (I hope).

Best case scenario is we get into the playoffs in good health then have a Miami 23 type run where we get hot at the right time.


but more realistically we lose convincingly in the second round to a better team
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Post#96 » by ReddoverKobe » Fri Jan 3, 2025 12:26 pm

Plossum wrote:We’re just a meh team. This is going to be our season. Ups and downs and about 44-50 wins (I hope).

Best case scenario is we get into the playoffs in good health then have a Miami 23 type run where we get hot at the right time.


This team will be lucky to be 500 at the end of the year.
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Post#97 » by PG Graveyard » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:06 pm

Could Dame pull a Butler for us and ask out? I don’t think we will trade him unless he does that.
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Post#98 » by ReddoverKobe » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:33 pm

rilamann wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Dame and Bobby for Jimmy and Herro


Bucks go from Slim chance to maybe win a first round playoff series if they are healthy and get the perfect match-up.

To Boston's greatest threat in the east if they pulled off that trade.


What's crazy is there are a lot Bucks fans that would scoff at that trade.


Salaries are way off. What about Butler and Rozier In a three team trade in which dame, bobby, pat and marjon go out?
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Post#99 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Jan 3, 2025 1:43 pm

Probably lost because I had the wrong year in the game thread and no one corrected me. Board is slipping.
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Post#100 » by RogerMurdock » Fri Jan 3, 2025 2:18 pm

Man, I was so ready to run upstairs to excitedly tell my wife we went on 20-something-to-nothing run to win the game only to have her not care. When it was at 20-0, she called me from our room to ask if I smelled eggs. I let her know that our son had just made ramen. Then the Bucks' run ended.

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