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Re: PG Blazers: Another Loss 

Post#81 » by Matches Malone » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:37 am

SupremeHustle wrote:I might be reaching but I swear Doc is subtextually calling out Midds' defense. He just said he didn't think Brook was moving well.


Is Doc doing his classic dodge accountability act?
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Post#82 » by randy84 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:38 am

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Matches Malone wrote:Jimmy Haslam better open up his pocketbooks and get a real coach in here this offseason. Just wasting Giannis prime years with Doc coasting for a paycheck.

My fear is Doc will get bumped up to POBO and Ham will take over next season. Lose/lose.

I think I have criminally underrated Prunty and wouldn't be mad if he was interim head coach again.
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Re: PG Blazers: Another Loss 

Post#83 » by Matches Malone » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:39 am

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Post#84 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:39 am

I'm the one always talking about the stupidly long 6 month 82 game season and just get to the playoffs healthy and we'll be fine. Scratch that.
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Post#85 » by Wooderson » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:39 am

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Matches Malone wrote:Jimmy Haslam better open up his pocketbooks and get a real coach in here this offseason. Just wasting Giannis prime years with Doc coasting for a paycheck.

My fear is Doc will get bumped up to POBO and Ham will take over next season. Lose/lose.

Worst case scenario by far. Ham ain't a HC and Doc stinks. If they make a change and don't clean house the org is rotten.
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Re: PG Blazers: Another Loss 

Post#86 » by fan230 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:39 am

Giannis missed some bunnies; have seen this before with him after illness. He still had over 50 percent shooting. Khris and Dame: Shooting percentages are very poor.

On defense we can’t stop any team.

Coaching seems very unimaginative. Lopez needs to take more shots both away and near the rim.
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Post#87 » by randy84 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:39 am

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He did miss a lot of layups, but still shot over 50% and scored 31 of our 102, while the rest of the Bucks shot 39%. The loss might have a little to do with the rest of the Bucks.

The other 4 players on the court just stood twiddling their thumbs cause Giannis wanted the ball every possession. That's fine if he's putting up a hyper efficient 40+ points, but he's not and it cost them. Trying to force action to get his rhythm back and it's also coming at the expense of his defense.


The other guys got good shots, and missed them. Dame had the ball more, but did nothing with it.

Except pass to the open guys who missed the shots like PGs should do.
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Post#88 » by SupremeHustle » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:40 am

I know we're not big fans of Doc Rivers around these parts but he's not as bad as the Bucks are playing. No way.

Khris Middleton is out of his Kobe/Mike-lite era and firmly into his Joe Ingles era. Embrace it, Khris. You'll stick around the league a lot longer.
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Post#89 » by Packbuckman » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:40 am

Dam Dame Lopez KM Portis 12-40 tonite if I was Giannis I would have drove to the basket to then pass to those chuckers lol
He should have had the ball the last shot when we were down one not dame!
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Post#90 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:41 am

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Matches Malone wrote:Jimmy Haslam better open up his pocketbooks and get a real coach in here this offseason. Just wasting Giannis prime years with Doc coasting for a paycheck.

My fear is Doc will get bumped up to POBO and Ham will take over next season. Lose/lose.

I think I have criminally underrated Prunty and wouldn't be mad if he was interim head coach again.

I would take Prunty or Joerger over Ham. But I'd prefer a new GM from outside the organization who hires a new coach outside the organization.
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Re: PG Blazers: Another Loss 

Post#91 » by SupremeHustle » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:41 am

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SupremeHustle wrote:I might be reaching but I swear Doc is subtextually calling out Midds' defense. He just said he didn't think Brook was moving well.


Is Doc doing his classic dodge accountability act?


He definitely didn't say "My bad" but a lot of what he said I'm sure guys will agree with.
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Post#92 » by stillgotgame » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:41 am

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BigO wrote:What's upsetting is that Prunty laid out at halftime what the offense had to do and they didn't do it. Virtually every bucket they did get was because of ball movement. Bucks had 25 assists, more than the Blazers, but they didn't do it enough.

Dame doesn't look like he can beat his man anymore. That's a concern.

Yes. It's much more a talent issue than a coaching issue


Wrong. 30-13 under a rookie coach, 34-35 under Doc.
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Post#93 » by WeMajor34 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:41 am

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Doc isn’t a great coach by any means but he’s not wrong here. Yeah he shifts blame more than he should but he can’t force his players to play the right way on the court. The team is dogging it and we all know it.
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Post#94 » by randy84 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:42 am

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MickeyDavis wrote:My fear is Doc will get bumped up to POBO and Ham will take over next season. Lose/lose.

I think I have criminally underrated Prunty and wouldn't be mad if he was interim head coach again.

I would take Prunty or Joerger over Ham. But I'd prefer a new GM from outside the organization who hires a new coach outside the organization.

100% agree with all of this. I think one of the low-key things that Bud did was help with the personnel side of the organization. Kind of a de facto GM. I think Horst can pull off big trades giving up every pick he has, but he hasn't done much else.
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Post#95 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:43 am

SupremeHustle wrote:I know we're not big fans of Doc Rivers around these parts but he's not as bad as the Bucks are playing. No way.

Khris Middleton is out of his Kobe/Mike-lite era and firmly into his Joe Ingles era. Embrace it, Khris. You'll stick around the league a lot longer.

It would be really dumb giving 34 year old Khris an extension and we better not do it. Let him opt in and he's an expiring. Or opt out and sign somewhere else.
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Post#96 » by paulpressey25 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:43 am

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PG Graveyard wrote:This team would be better right now with Jrue vs Dame. We wouldn’t be title contenders but we would be a better team. It’s time to figure a way out Horst. He needs to go


Good news is we can still trick a team into giving up value for Dame. No chance anyone would trade for present day Jrue.


I and’1 your first sentence. Your second is inaccurate, as Jrue now has more value by himself than Dame.
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Re: PG Blazers: Another Loss 

Post#97 » by BroncoBuck » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:43 am

The Brook extension torpedoed the Bucks roster flexibility, which in turn torpedoed the Bucks ability to move off of Khris’ contract.
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Post#98 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:43 am

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JEIS wrote:We are using Dame as a decoy. He gets doubled and they take him out of the game. Legit worried he is shook from missing so many game ending shots that he may be @$$ in the playoffs.


Is he also shook from missing so many non game ending shots? Dude has missed a lot of shots.


Could be. He seems to play better when Giannis is out.... Until teams double him and he can't do s#it. Seems to know and play his role better when he has to carry the team. Kris does the same too. If Kris is the 3rd or 4th option, He gets his 15 ish points. They need to play way more aggressive and quicker.. take more shots.


I agree that they need to get the ball up the court quicker. Doc has mentioned it repeatedly, but Dame keeps walking it up. When the clock hits a certain point, our default offense is post ups.

We get good shots when we run through 3 or 4 DHOs, but there's no time for that when the ball barely crosses half court at 16 seconds.

Dame got the ball with 7 seconds left in the 1st half and we didn't get a shot off. Perfect example of how damn slow he plays.
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Post#99 » by MVP2110 » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:43 am

When it comes to the Bucks I think you need to be able to determine whether the issues lately are more talent or effort. If it's effort then there is less to worry about imo(playoffs usually bring out everyone's best effort). If it's talent, then we're toast because they have very few ways to improve the roster in any significant way. Thankfully, I think the issues are mostly effort based.
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Post#100 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Jan 5, 2025 3:44 am

randy84 wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Jimmy Haslam better open up his pocketbooks and get a real coach in here this offseason. Just wasting Giannis prime years with Doc coasting for a paycheck.

My fear is Doc will get bumped up to POBO and Ham will take over next season. Lose/lose.

I think I have criminally underrated Prunty and wouldn't be mad if he was interim head coach again.

everyone knew it was stupid hiring doc midseason at that salary. there was no way to move on from him without blowing it up. we should have waited until after the season and got someone like Atkinson. we panicked.

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