PG Spurs - Bucks Whipped

[BUCKnation]

Just dont know where the defense went in this road trip. I can wave off a nuclear night from harden, coasting against utah, being tired/coasting against Portland, but this was pathetic. I know people keep bringing up, well all teams have to do is run on us and they get easy buckets, but thats been the scouting report for like a year and a half and it didn’t stop us from having a too 5/10 defense over the last 20 games.

We definitely missed Bobby or someone with Bobby’s size and relative mobility to give Brook and Giannis a proper break/switch things up.

Also, if both GTJ and AJ are off, our record has to be in the tank.

In general the offense has been very good but they have to be perfect to keep up with the horrid defense. We saw it in the last couple 3rd quarters and in the 4th in LA, when they drop off for a few minutes the other team stretches the lead.

[Gianstoppable]

There isn’t much difference between the treadmill Kohl era Bucks and this iteration - except seeding. Another first round exit.

Retool. New GM. New coach. Everyone available.

Awareness, Acceptance, Action.

*this is completely dependent on ownership

Stop

To ease your anxiety? Sorry, no.

Sounds silly saying this team is equivalent to those awful teams. New coach and some new players sure. But everyone available including Giannis? Yeah lay off the doom and gloom for your own anxiety lol

[Iheartfootball]

Stop

To ease your anxiety? Sorry, no.

Sounds silly saying this team is equivalent to those awful teams. New coach and some new players sure. But everyone available including Giannis? Yeah lay off the doom and gloom for your own anxiety lol

Reread. I didn’t say equivalent. Have fun with your first round exit.

[Gianstoppable]

To ease your anxiety? Sorry, no.

Sounds silly saying this team is equivalent to those awful teams. New coach and some new players sure. But everyone available including Giannis? Yeah lay off the doom and gloom for your own anxiety lol

Reread. I didn’t say equivalent. Have fun with your first round exit.

"Isn't much difference" ok you basically said equivalent besides the fact we have 2 superstars. We are a role player or two away from being a legit title contender. We could rebuild, but rebuilds are never guaranteed. You wanna trade Giannis, you lose the fan base. You trade Dame and you won't get equal value. We need to go all in these next 2-3 seasons and then we can go back to the dark ages. If things fall apart and Giannis wants out then we can reevaluate but you don't punt when you have a top 2 player in the NBA

[Iheartfootball]

Sounds silly saying this team is equivalent to those awful teams. New coach and some new players sure. But everyone available including Giannis? Yeah lay off the doom and gloom for your own anxiety lol

Reread. I didn’t say equivalent. Have fun with your first round exit.

"Isn't much difference" ok you basically said equivalent besides the fact we have 2 superstars. We are a role player or two away from being a legit title contender. We could rebuild, but rebuilds are never guaranteed. You wanna trade Giannis, you lose the fan base. You trade Dame and you won't get equal value. We need to go all in these next 2-3 seasons and then we can go back to the dark ages. If things fall apart and Giannis wants out then we can reevaluate but you don't punt when you have a top 2 player in the NBA

Only thing guaranteed is that the rest of the NBA contenders have passed this roster.

You think this roster, assets, and organization, as it’s constructed now will win another championship.

I think the only way for them to get back to the top is to blow it up and start over again.

They have zero draft capital, zero young prospects that look like they are worth developing, inept management. They have Giannis; thats it. You think they’re getting anything for Brooke or Middleton or Portis? What’s the best return you think they can get for Dame after this season? That’s not to mention they make a move at the trade deadline that will also be shortsighted and give away more assets.

I just don’t see it and I’d rather rebuild than be the 3-6 seed and a 1st or 2nd round exit for the rest of Giannis’s career in MKE.

We are both Bucks fans, I just don’t agree that they can get back to the top with anything they currently have.

[-Jragon-]

Going through the 3rd quarter play by play... KM comes in the game in the 3rd and we're down 7.... in my head I'm thinking F this, we'll be down 20 b4 he leaves the game. I was wrong.. he went back out in the 4th and we're down 15... only for Pat C to come in and blink and we're down 20+....

This is the problem guys... Doc will keep playing these washed up cats because they are "vets" when we'd be better off having younger guys take these minutes. Horst is the only one that can save us... he has to de-washed-up-old-mf-scrub this roster... thank you for your service but we can't afford to keep playing these guys half way through the 3rd and F up any chance we have to win games against teams that are home, motivated, excited and make everything.

If you look at the box score, there's +/- for every player. Learn to read it. Khris and Pats minutes were our best. Bucks got smoked in Dame and Brooks minutes. Brook is extremely match up dependant. Bucks have lost in Dames minutes all season.

Right, but the end of the game is where you summon that deep courage to keep competing. Congrats on your 1st half plus minus b.s. stat -- there aren't any trophies coming for that. If we're bringing KM, BP and Portis in to finish games then this will be a very early exit.. ANY young, running team will run us until we injure ourselves out of a series.

[-Jragon-]

Going through the 3rd quarter play by play... KM comes in the game in the 3rd and we're down 7.... in my head I'm thinking F this, we'll be down 20 b4 he leaves the game. I was wrong.. he went back out in the 4th and we're down 15... only for Pat C to come in and blink and we're down 20+....

This is the problem guys... Doc will keep playing these washed up cats because they are "vets" when we'd be better off having younger guys take these minutes. Horst is the only one that can save us... he has to de-washed-up-old-mf-scrub this roster... thank you for your service but we can't afford to keep playing these guys half way through the 3rd and F up any chance we have to win games against teams that are home, motivated, excited and make everything.

pat c was the only guy on the team to have a positive net rating. with khris we competed. it was a game when they were on the floor

its the young guys time we got smoked. you need to rethink whether you can trust your eyes or thought process on this one

They looked ok 1st half.. that's the thing.. it's not consistent so in the 3rd and 4th their mind is telling them yes but their body is saying nope. Meanwhile the other team is still running their a$$ off and our bench is yelling get back on D but it's too late now, isnt it? When we were down 7, that came early in the 2nd half and Wemby just made a lucky long 3 so we were only down 4. The game was manageable. So when KM/Pat C and (Bobby for example-- I know he hasn't been here) come in and are spun around, lost on D out of position, deciding at the last second if he should cover guy A or B then the next guy tries to help them and that makes their guy open and 2 ball swings they have a wide open 3. They extend the lead and now Dame/Giannis have to Superhero to try to make up for their 3rd/early 4th quarter failures.

Is there a stat that seperates quarters so we can see this easier? What I'm noticing is when the subs come in middle 3rd and mix in the 4th we are Fcked

Do I like that 6'1" Dame is standing in front of his guy, jumps and his length doesn't really bother the guy's shot on a switch? No, but I respect that he's in position in front of the guy at least putting a hand in his face despite his height limitation.

[-Jragon-]

Also I guarantee right F-in now that there are other young guys on our mf bench right now that coaches have coached up all year that can put in 12 minutes of all hustle and grit instead of Pat C/Bobby -- I do realize we're leaning on AJJ/Rollins/AJG .. Get Butler, clean out all the slow vets, then free the young guys to hustle around them and let Butler yell at them a little until they be in the right spot... that's another problem with these vets is there anyone who can yell at you and you won't pout when you're a 8+ yr vet? Free the young guys and tell them don't be sensitive, we want a ring.

[ShootingtheJ]

Going through the 3rd quarter play by play... KM comes in the game in the 3rd and we're down 7.... in my head I'm thinking F this, we'll be down 20 b4 he leaves the game. I was wrong.. he went back out in the 4th and we're down 15... only for Pat C to come in and blink and we're down 20+....

This is the problem guys... Doc will keep playing these washed up cats because they are "vets" when we'd be better off having younger guys take these minutes. Horst is the only one that can save us... he has to de-washed-up-old-mf-scrub this roster... thank you for your service but we can't afford to keep playing these guys half way through the 3rd and F up any chance we have to win games against teams that are home, motivated, excited and make everything.

pat c was the only guy on the team to have a positive net rating. with khris we competed. it was a game when they were on the floor

its the young guys time we got smoked. you need to rethink whether you can trust your eyes or thought process on this one

They looked ok 1st half.. that's the thing.. it's not consistent so in the 3rd and 4th their mind is telling them yes but their body is saying nope. Meanwhile the other team is still running their a$$ off and our bench is yelling get back on D but it's too late now, isnt it? When we were down 7, that came early in the 2nd half and Wemby just made a lucky long 3 so we were only down 4. The game was manageable. So when KM/Pat C and (Bobby for example-- I know he hasn't been here) come in and are spun around, lost on D out of position, deciding at the last second if he should cover guy A or B then the next guy tries to help them and that makes their guy open and 2 ball swings they have a wide open 3. They extend the lead and now Dame/Giannis have to Superhero to try to make up for their 3rd/early 4th quarter failures.

Is there a stat that seperates quarters so we can see this easier? What I'm noticing is when the subs come in middle 3rd and mix in the 4th we are Fcked

Do I like that 6'1" Dame is standing in front of his guy, jumps and his length doesn't really bother the guy's shot on a switch? No, but I respect that he's in position in front of the guy at least putting a hand in his face despite his height limitation.

Your eyes are biased. We've shown you the irrefutable numbers, but you refuse to believe the truth.

[-Jragon-]

pat c was the only guy on the team to have a positive net rating. with khris we competed. it was a game when they were on the floor

its the young guys time we got smoked. you need to rethink whether you can trust your eyes or thought process on this one

They looked ok 1st half.. that's the thing.. it's not consistent so in the 3rd and 4th their mind is telling them yes but their body is saying nope. Meanwhile the other team is still running their a$$ off and our bench is yelling get back on D but it's too late now, isnt it? When we were down 7, that came early in the 2nd half and Wemby just made a lucky long 3 so we were only down 4. The game was manageable. So when KM/Pat C and (Bobby for example-- I know he hasn't been here) come in and are spun around, lost on D out of position, deciding at the last second if he should cover guy A or B then the next guy tries to help them and that makes their guy open and 2 ball swings they have a wide open 3. They extend the lead and now Dame/Giannis have to Superhero to try to make up for their 3rd/early 4th quarter failures.

Is there a stat that seperates quarters so we can see this easier? What I'm noticing is when the subs come in middle 3rd and mix in the 4th we are Fcked

Do I like that 6'1" Dame is standing in front of his guy, jumps and his length doesn't really bother the guy's shot on a switch? No, but I respect that he's in position in front of the guy at least putting a hand in his face despite his height limitation.

Your eyes are biased. We've shown you the irrefutable numbers, but you refuse to believe the truth.

Exactly my point. If someone yells at KM bro stay on your man, he'll probably yell back something or pull out an iPad and show you how nice his on/off stats were when Brook stood behind him the the drop scheme. Noone cares, clean house Horst.

[ShootingtheJ]

Also I guarantee right F-in now that there are other young guys on our mf bench right now that coaches have coached up all year that can put in 12 minutes of all hustle and grit instead of Pat C/Bobby -- I do realize we're leaning on AJJ/Rollins/AJG .. Get Butler, clean out all the slow vets, then free the young guys to hustle around them and let Butler yell at them a little until they be in the right spot... that's another problem with these vets is there anyone who can yell at you and you won't pout when you're a 8+ yr vet? Free the young guys and tell them don't be sensitive, we want a ring.

The Bucks are just 2.5 points/100 worse defensively with Portis on the floor, but 9 points/100 worse with Dame on the floor.

Our only defensive issue is Dame. Our defense with Dame on the bench is the #2 defense in the league.

[ShootingtheJ]

They looked ok 1st half.. that's the thing.. it's not consistent so in the 3rd and 4th their mind is telling them yes but their body is saying nope. Meanwhile the other team is still running their a$$ off and our bench is yelling get back on D but it's too late now, isnt it? When we were down 7, that came early in the 2nd half and Wemby just made a lucky long 3 so we were only down 4. The game was manageable. So when KM/Pat C and (Bobby for example-- I know he hasn't been here) come in and are spun around, lost on D out of position, deciding at the last second if he should cover guy A or B then the next guy tries to help them and that makes their guy open and 2 ball swings they have a wide open 3. They extend the lead and now Dame/Giannis have to Superhero to try to make up for their 3rd/early 4th quarter failures.

Is there a stat that seperates quarters so we can see this easier? What I'm noticing is when the subs come in middle 3rd and mix in the 4th we are Fcked

Do I like that 6'1" Dame is standing in front of his guy, jumps and his length doesn't really bother the guy's shot on a switch? No, but I respect that he's in position in front of the guy at least putting a hand in his face despite his height limitation.

Your eyes are biased. We've shown you the irrefutable numbers, but you refuse to believe the truth.

Exactly my point. If someone yells at KM bro stay on your man, he'll probably yell back something or pull out an iPad and show you how nice his on/off stats were when Brook stood behind him the the drop scheme. Noone cares, clean house Horst.

Brook doesn't stand behind Dame in the drop scheme?

It bothers you as Dame's PR man that there's so many numbers that expose how ineffective he is.

It really hilarious though that you're trying to scapegoat Portis for the poor defense in a game he didn't play in.