Giannis Thread - Giannis Trade Ideas Here - Haynes report pg 57

[Ron Swanson]

He's gonna be out for a while and whether it's as a precaution or a precursor to a trade, no real difference anymore. Just a half game out of the Top-10 and those 11.7% odds at a Top-4 pick boys!

https://www.tankathon.com/

[JEIS]

The potential turd in the punch bowl is if Giannis won't commit to a new team. That might cap the offers we get.

I think he'd commit to a Wemby/Fox Spurs, and OKC with SGA. Atlanta might be a harder sell, depending on how he feels about Trae.

Our worst case scenario is if we give up on Jalen and take Trae as the main piece in a Hawks move. That would smell of Horst and Doc wanting a "proven vet" and would be an abject disaster.

Praying that it’s not Horst doing the negotiating. Wes and Jimmy need to get Masai in pronto

Yep, dude traded away all our firsts. I don't trust him trying to aquire them or others back.

Just think of how many second round picks we would have though.

[ReasonablySober]

ESPN with five trades:

Atlanta Hawks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Cole Anthony

Bucks get:

Trae Young
Zaccharie Risacher
2026 first-round pick (via better of Pelicans and Bucks)
2027 first-round pick (top-four protected, via worse of Pelicans and Bucks)
2029 first-round pick (top-four protected 2029 to 2031, unprotected in 2032 if not conveyed)
2031 first-round pick (top-four protected in 2031 if eligible, otherwise unprotected in 2032)

Rockets get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Alperen Sengun
Fred VanVleet
2027 first-round pick (unprotected, via Suns)

New York Knicks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jericho Sims

Bucks get:

Karl-Anthony Towns
Pacome Dadiet
Tyler Kolek
2026 first-round pick (top-eight protected, via Wizards; otherwise, second-round selections in 2026 and 2027)
2028 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2030 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2032 first-round swap

San Antonio Spurs get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Stephon Castle
Harrison Barnes
Kelly Olynyk
Jordan McLaughlin
2027 first-round pick (via Hawks)
2029 first-round pick
2032 first-round pick

Golden State Warriors get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Draymond Green
Jonathan Kuminga
Buddy Hield
2026 first-round pick
2028 first-round pick
2030 first-round pick (if 1 through 20)
2032 first-round pick

Marks on the proposed deals:

The best trade for Milwaukee is...

The thinking in Milwaukee should be how to get two bites of the apple: players on controllable contracts that can help now and first-round picks to rebuild draft selections.

There is no incentive for the Bucks to enter a full-scale rebuild. Therefore, what Atlanta could offer -- Young, Risacher and four first-rounders -- would be too much to pass up.

The Hawks deal has tremendous appeal because the Pelicans' first-round pick in June could easily end up at No. 1. Combined with their own, the Bucks would likely have two first-rounders in the lottery. The Bucks would also get three additional firsts in future years.

Risacher would give Milwaukee a big athletic wing they lack and who isn't eligible for an extension until the 2027 offseason. Any apprehension comes with the cost of Trae Young's next contract. He is eligible to sign up to a four-year, $229 million extension and can be a free agent in July if he declines his player option.

Despite the Knicks' inclusion of Karl-Anthony Towns, their offer should be a nonstarter due to the lack of first-rounders -- aside from the Wizards' top-eight protected pick in 2026 -- headed to Milwaukee.

The Warriors trade, meanwhile, is probably the best value when it comes to first-round picks. Even with Antetokounmpo, the roster will continue to age, leaving the first-rounders in 2028 and 2030 as possible lottery picks in a potential post-Curry era.

A Spurs trade involving Castle gives the Bucks a player they can build around that has three years remaining on his rookie contract. Although Barnes is starting and having one of his better shooting seasons, he and Kelly Olynyk are salary filler. While there are three unprotected first-rounders included, the Bucks' concern would be how much value the Spurs' 2029 and 2032 first-rounders actually hold with Antetokounmpo, Wembanyama, Fox and Harper anchoring a chase for a title in San Antonio.

Houston's deal features Sengun as the best player included in any of the trades who also has four years left on a non-max contract. However, can he and Myles Turner play together, or is it best to do the trade and worry about that later? (The Bucks would have $60 million per season tied up in two centers.) VanVleet has a player option for next season and would give Milwaukee a starting-caliber point guard if he opted-in. The 2027 first-rounder via Phoenix holds value because it is unprotected, but it could easily land outside of the lottery if the Suns start to this season is any indication of their trajectory.

[msiris]

Giannis is losing value as we speak. Right now he:
-doesn't play defense
-doesn't box out
-cant make proper screen
-cant play with other ball dominant player
-cant hit 3s
-cant hit FT
-cant stay healthy

He is 31 years old in 2 days. At that same age Westbrook started his rapid decline. We may be surprised how bad will be offers for Giannis.

That's some serious hater stuff.

Yesterday I said I would trade him where he wants to be traded because he deserved that. Even if we get less back. And I am hater? Ok

Sorry IF i am trading one of the best players in the league I am doing whats best for the Milwaukee Bucks. We paid him and and have bent over backwards for him. We owe him nothing.

[Sigra]

That's some serious hater stuff.

Yesterday I said I would trade him where he wants to be traded because he deserved that. Even if we get less back. And I am hater? Ok

Sorry IF i am trading one of the best players in the league I am doing whats best for the Milwaukee Bucks. We paid him and and have bent over backwards for him. We owe him nothing.

Legit opinion. I was just proving that I dont hate Giannis. I would help him even if we get less back = I dont hate him.

[Ron Swanson]

Lol, "Trae, Risacher, and four firsts is too good to pass up". Sure Mark, sure. Trae does nothing for this team in the near or long-term future. Just keep KPJ at that point.

[Sigra]

ESPN with five trades:

Atlanta Hawks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Cole Anthony

Bucks get:

Trae Young
Zaccharie Risacher
2026 first-round pick (via better of Pelicans and Bucks)
2027 first-round pick (top-four protected, via worse of Pelicans and Bucks)
2029 first-round pick (top-four protected 2029 to 2031, unprotected in 2032 if not conveyed)
2031 first-round pick (top-four protected in 2031 if eligible, otherwise unprotected in 2032)

Yes, if we can involve another team to take Young and give us more picks for him.

Rockets get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Alperen Sengun
Fred VanVleet
2027 first-round pick (unprotected, via Suns)

Yes, please.

New York Knicks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jericho Sims

Bucks get:

Karl-Anthony Towns
Pacome Dadiet
Tyler Kolek
2026 first-round pick (top-eight protected, via Wizards; otherwise, second-round selections in 2026 and 2027)
2028 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2030 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2032 first-round swap

Yes

San Antonio Spurs get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Stephon Castle
Harrison Barnes
Kelly Olynyk
Jordan McLaughlin
2027 first-round pick (via Hawks)
2029 first-round pick
2032 first-round pick

No, thank you.

Golden State Warriors get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Draymond Green
Jonathan Kuminga
Buddy Hield
2026 first-round pick
2028 first-round pick
2030 first-round pick (if 1 through 20)
2032 first-round pick

Hell, no

[msiris]

Yesterday I said I would trade him where he wants to be traded because he deserved that. Even if we get less back. And I am hater? Ok

Sorry IF i am trading one of the best players in the league I am doing whats best for the Milwaukee Bucks. We paid him and and have bent over backwards for him. We owe him nothing.

Legit opinion. I was just proving that I dont hate Giannis. I would help him even if we get less back = I dont hate him.

Nobody here hates him. But you are right about one thing. As time goes on the less he will be worth. Don't blame people who want to hang on to him as well.

[SirChurros]

No thanks to the Sixers trades you guys were talking about. Edgecombe has come crashing back down to earth. I’d much rather have the Spurs package than McCain and Edgecombe.

[paulpressey25]

Lol, "Trae, Risacher, and four firsts is too good to pass up". Sure Mark, sure. Trae does nothing for this team in the near or long-term future. Just keep KPJ at that point.

Glad RS posted all those trades. But every trade idea is terrible. They allow the acquiring team to basically keep all their best young guys like Harper, Johnson, etc. And then they don’t even add in many picks.

[paulpressey25]

No thanks to the Sixers trades you guys were talking about. Edgecombe has come crashing back down to earth. I’d much rather have the Spurs package than McCain and Edgecombe.

Part of Edgecombe ‘crashing’ is the fact the team has allowed Maxey, Oubre and Grimes to have green lights to shoot. Those three vets want theirs. There aren’t enough balls to go around.

[sidney lanier]

Both the Shams and Windhorst "revelations" yesterday concerned events from last spring and summer. It's sloppy reporting (and sloppy reading on our part) to create the impression that things are happening now.

Nevertheless, I guess it doesn't hurt to plan for the no-Giannis future, whether he leaves this year at the trade deadline, this summer, after his current contract, or in 10 years.

I don't understand why he has been a polarizing figure for some more passive-aggressive members of the NBA media community, but we need to pause, set their sourceless ravings aside, and count our blessings here.

Like all superstars, Giannis has his flaws, but mother of mercy, how lucky we have been. And still are.

[SirChurros]

No thanks to the Sixers trades you guys were talking about. Edgecombe has come crashing back down to earth. I’d much rather have the Spurs package than McCain and Edgecombe.

Part of Edgecombe ‘crashing’ is the fact the team has allowed Maxey, Oubre and Grimes to have green lights to shoot. Those three vets want theirs. There aren’t enough balls to go around.

Fair. I just like the Spurs guys better as prospects, I guess.

[Matches Malone]

I don't understand why he has been a polarizing figure for some more passive-aggressive members of the NBA media community, but we need to pause, set their sourceless ravings aside, and count our blessings here.

This part in particular is getting weird. I watched a clip of Windhorst yesterday getting visibly upset talking about this, like he's mad at the Bucks for not trading him yet. They've been so miffed at getting every Giannis report wrong all these years that they've made it their mission to destroy his career in Milwaukee.

[tydett]

Lol, "Trae, Risacher, and four firsts is too good to pass up". Sure Mark, sure. Trae does nothing for this team in the near or long-term future. Just keep KPJ at that point.

Glad RS posted all those trades. But every trade idea is terrible. They allow the acquiring team to basically keep all their best young guys like Harper, Johnson, etc. And then they don’t even add in many picks.

Was reading RS's post and thought "There's no way Giannis is being traded for about the same amount as Rudy Gobert and Desmond Bane" - the Luka disaster just reinforced and lets NBA media get away with trash like that.

[HKPackFan]

The fan in me says giannis would never fake an injury, the conspiracy nut in me says he would consider if he's getting traded but doesn't want to lose too many games while sitting out for trades so he still has a shot at mvp.

But the fan in me is a lot stronger.

couldn't they just say he got injured in training

So he doesn't lose another game of eligibility, but then I realized you need 20 minutes to count as a game so that doesn't work.

Again or to show he's "trying" and not quitting on the team. He suited up and got out there on TV.

Ah well. Guess we are going to be looking at trade scenarios for the foreseeable future.

[machu46]

ESPN with five trades:

Atlanta Hawks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Cole Anthony

Bucks get:

Trae Young
Zaccharie Risacher
2026 first-round pick (via better of Pelicans and Bucks)
2027 first-round pick (top-four protected, via worse of Pelicans and Bucks)
2029 first-round pick (top-four protected 2029 to 2031, unprotected in 2032 if not conveyed)
2031 first-round pick (top-four protected in 2031 if eligible, otherwise unprotected in 2032)

Rockets get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Alperen Sengun
Fred VanVleet
2027 first-round pick (unprotected, via Suns)

New York Knicks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jericho Sims

Bucks get:

Karl-Anthony Towns
Pacome Dadiet
Tyler Kolek
2026 first-round pick (top-eight protected, via Wizards; otherwise, second-round selections in 2026 and 2027)
2028 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2030 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2032 first-round swap

San Antonio Spurs get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Stephon Castle
Harrison Barnes
Kelly Olynyk
Jordan McLaughlin
2027 first-round pick (via Hawks)
2029 first-round pick
2032 first-round pick

Golden State Warriors get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Draymond Green
Jonathan Kuminga
Buddy Hield
2026 first-round pick
2028 first-round pick
2030 first-round pick (if 1 through 20)
2032 first-round pick

Marks on the proposed deals:

The best trade for Milwaukee is...

The thinking in Milwaukee should be how to get two bites of the apple: players on controllable contracts that can help now and first-round picks to rebuild draft selections.

There is no incentive for the Bucks to enter a full-scale rebuild. Therefore, what Atlanta could offer -- Young, Risacher and four first-rounders -- would be too much to pass up.

The Hawks deal has tremendous appeal because the Pelicans' first-round pick in June could easily end up at No. 1. Combined with their own, the Bucks would likely have two first-rounders in the lottery. The Bucks would also get three additional firsts in future years.

Risacher would give Milwaukee a big athletic wing they lack and who isn't eligible for an extension until the 2027 offseason. Any apprehension comes with the cost of Trae Young's next contract. He is eligible to sign up to a four-year, $229 million extension and can be a free agent in July if he declines his player option.

Despite the Knicks' inclusion of Karl-Anthony Towns, their offer should be a nonstarter due to the lack of first-rounders -- aside from the Wizards' top-eight protected pick in 2026 -- headed to Milwaukee.

The Warriors trade, meanwhile, is probably the best value when it comes to first-round picks. Even with Antetokounmpo, the roster will continue to age, leaving the first-rounders in 2028 and 2030 as possible lottery picks in a potential post-Curry era.

A Spurs trade involving Castle gives the Bucks a player they can build around that has three years remaining on his rookie contract. Although Barnes is starting and having one of his better shooting seasons, he and Kelly Olynyk are salary filler. While there are three unprotected first-rounders included, the Bucks' concern would be how much value the Spurs' 2029 and 2032 first-rounders actually hold with Antetokounmpo, Wembanyama, Fox and Harper anchoring a chase for a title in San Antonio.

Houston's deal features Sengun as the best player included in any of the trades who also has four years left on a non-max contract. However, can he and Myles Turner play together, or is it best to do the trade and worry about that later? (The Bucks would have $60 million per season tied up in two centers.) VanVleet has a player option for next season and would give Milwaukee a starting-caliber point guard if he opted-in. The 2027 first-rounder via Phoenix holds value because it is unprotected, but it could easily land outside of the lottery if the Suns start to this season is any indication of their trajectory.

The pick swap stuff always breaks my brain...in the Hawks hypothetical, we'd essentially be getting the Pelicans 1st round pick while also keeping our own 1st round pick at that point, right? If so, it's not that bad. I would prefer a Jalen Johnson package instead, but having two cracks at this loaded draft class would be a really nice start to the new era. I do wonder how our front office/owners would view the Trae Young part of it. Despite his warts, he's one of the more marketable players in the league; this team wouldn't really make sense with him, KPJ, and Rollins, and also wouldn't be particularly good, but I imagine at least a fraction of their brains would be interested in at least having someone they can market in the absence of Giannis. But again, doesn't really make sense with KPJ and Rollins (same can kinda be said for the Spurs package too but at least Castle/Harper would fit from a young/athletic POV) and also diminishes the value of our pick.

The rest of the offers don't do much for me. The Knicks one is obviously just terrible; that's the kind of trade that will get me to instantly check out on this franchise for awhile.

Sengun is pretty high up on the list of potential centerpieces for me but I know that's a pretty polarizing take here. Have always liked his game dating back to Europe even if it's generally a tough archetype to build around.

Not sure I really foresee Castle ever turning into a decent 3 point shooter, but he's obviously a talented young guard. He alone should not be enough to be the centerpiece in a Giannis trade IMO, but I suppose there's worse potential offers out there.

Warriors offer is essentially worthless players-wise. Some hope the picks could be valuable in the future but just as possible that in that market with that ownership, they find a way to remain good and we essentially turn Giannis into some bad draft picks.

Not listed here, but would definitely be intrigued by something built around Paolo or Franz Wagner but not sure what picks they have remaining after they blew their wad on Bane.

[sidney lanier]

I don't understand why he has been a polarizing figure for some more passive-aggressive members of the NBA media community, but we need to pause, set their sourceless ravings aside, and count our blessings here.

This part in particular is getting weird. I watched a clip of Windhorst yesterday getting visibly upset talking about this, like he's mad at the Bucks for not trading him yet. They've been so miffed at getting every Giannis report wrong all these years that they've made it their mission to destroy his career in Milwaukee.

I know. I saw another NBA reporter whose name escapes me this morning on ESPN in a similar state. I don't know whether it's some kind of twisted confirmation bias of their previous rumors about him leaving or what, but even the rumor-mongers are getting tired of the rumors.

[jschligs]

I’m not taking a trade unless it can rival what we’ve recently seen and none of those do.

[JayMKE]

ESPN with five trades:

Atlanta Hawks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Cole Anthony

Bucks get:

Trae Young
Zaccharie Risacher
2026 first-round pick (via better of Pelicans and Bucks)
2027 first-round pick (top-four protected, via worse of Pelicans and Bucks)
2029 first-round pick (top-four protected 2029 to 2031, unprotected in 2032 if not conveyed)
2031 first-round pick (top-four protected in 2031 if eligible, otherwise unprotected in 2032)

Yes, if we can involve another team to take Young and give us more picks for him.

Rockets get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Alperen Sengun
Fred VanVleet
2027 first-round pick (unprotected, via Suns)

Yes, please.

New York Knicks get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Jericho Sims

Bucks get:

Karl-Anthony Towns
Pacome Dadiet
Tyler Kolek
2026 first-round pick (top-eight protected, via Wizards; otherwise, second-round selections in 2026 and 2027)
2028 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2030 first-round swap (worse of Bucks or Trail Blazers for Knicks)
2032 first-round swap

Yes

San Antonio Spurs get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Stephon Castle
Harrison Barnes
Kelly Olynyk
Jordan McLaughlin
2027 first-round pick (via Hawks)
2029 first-round pick
2032 first-round pick

No, thank you.

Golden State Warriors get:

Giannis Antetokounmpo
Thanasis Antetokounmpo

Bucks get:

Draymond Green
Jonathan Kuminga
Buddy Hield
2026 first-round pick
2028 first-round pick
2030 first-round pick (if 1 through 20)
2032 first-round pick

Hell, no

these trades suck, not even the top prospects

id be done with with Bucks basketball for the rest of the decade, these would be some beyond depressing dark ages, i cant get into tanking like the dorks **** that and the "win now" part of these trades are even worse