'14 Draft Thread pt 2: vote again? VOTE AGAIN.

VooDoo7 · Post #801 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:09 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
Wooderson wrote:I'm so torn between Ender Wiggins or Embiid. Both are going to be studs though, so end up top 2 and it's a can't lose scenario.

Over the past week, I'm now at a point where I'll be upset if we don't get pick 1 or pick 2 for Wiggins/Embiid. WIggins is starting to turn it on big-time. He and Embiid are going into their own tier(s) right now.

Just think how upset you'll be when we get a top 2 pick and don't take either of them.

Post #802 » by **paulpressey25** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:10 am

Parker scares the heck out of me right now. I'm not writing him off by any stretch. But again, we all saw Brandon Jennings come in guns blazing his first month as a rookie. Parker may not have been that good a shooter and is reverting back to the mean.

Doesn't mean he can't improve and isn't a great prospect. He may return with a wicked vengeance at tournament time. But right now Wiggins/Embiid and on a lower tier, Marcus Smart are all taking their games up a notch.

VooDoo7 · Post #803 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:10 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Some real what have you done for me lately going on in this thread .

I think the mission thing has changed a lot of peoples views.

buckboy · Post #804 » by **buckboy** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:11 am

randy84 wrote:Whose the coach of the Jayhawks, Coach Drew? Why is the center guarding a guy on the perimeter?

For the 2nd time in this thread:

Bill Self is a boob.

Wooderson · Post #805 » by **Wooderson** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:12 am

breakchains wrote:I'm basically expecting to pick 4 or 5. Will hope to be pleasantly surprised. The most worrisome situation is Embiid staying in school (possible), Parker going on a mission (plausible), and not ending up with the #1 (likely).

Or you get Wiggins and have to endure 4 years of talk of him going to Toronto as he starts to develop (because IMO it's going to take him some time)

Well we'd have him for 8 (likely) years minimum, so I'll withstand that talk while behind the scenes Giannis and Wiggins develop the ultimate bromance :pray:

breakchains · Post #806 » by **breakchains** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:16 am

BTW I honestly think the Bucks can't afford multiple seasons like this. They need to get to winning and excitement almost immediately after they get their next prospect. I think we are on thin ice with any player that comes here. If we can become winners early and excite the city, it changes the game. We need to get to that asap.

That's why I'm hoping this horrific season serves two purposes: 1) a top pick, 2) a new, innovative, basketball-smart coaching staff.

A core of Giannis + Embiid/Wiggins/Parker should be able to attract good candidates.

skones · Post #807 » by **skones** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:17 am

Wooderson wrote:
breakchains wrote:I'm basically expecting to pick 4 or 5. Will hope to be pleasantly surprised. The most worrisome situation is Embiid staying in school (possible), Parker going on a mission (plausible), and not ending up with the #1 (likely).

Or you get Wiggins and have to endure 4 years of talk of him going to Toronto as he starts to develop (because IMO it's going to take him some time)

Well we'd have him for 8 (likely) years minimum, so I'll withstand that talk while behind the scenes Giannis and Wiggins develop the ultimate bromance

8 years minimum? Not so much.

bigkurty · Post #808 » by **bigkurty** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:18 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Some real what have you done for me lately going on in this thread .

I think the mission thing has changed a lot of peoples views.

For sure and I have a feeling that is just the start of that. He is going to use that threat around draft time to try and help him land where he wants to land.

Right now my board is Embiid, wiggins, Exum, Parker, Randle, smart, wcs.

jakecronus8 · Post #809 » by **jakecronus8** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:19 am

skones wrote:
Wooderson wrote:
breakchains wrote:I'm basically expecting to pick 4 or 5. Will hope to be pleasantly surprised. The most worrisome situation is Embiid staying in school (possible), Parker going on a mission (plausible), and not ending up with the #1 (likely).

Or you get Wiggins and have to endure 4 years of talk of him going to Toronto as he starts to develop (because IMO it's going to take him some time)

Well we'd have him for 8 (likely) years minimum, so I'll withstand that talk while behind the scenes Giannis and Wiggins develop the ultimate bromance

8 years minimum? Not so much.

7 more than likely as a minimum.

Wooderson · Post #810 » by **Wooderson** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:20 am

skones wrote:
Wooderson wrote:
Well we'd have him for 8 (likely) years minimum, so I'll withstand that talk while behind the scenes Giannis and Wiggins develop the ultimate bromance

8 years minimum? Not so much.

Well it's pretty rare for a guy to turn down a possible $60 million guaranteed by taking the qualifying offer and a one year deal at a small amount. I know Ben Gordon did it, but I'm pretty sure no one's ever turned down a max contract.

H2tObes · Post #811 » by **H2tObes** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:20 am

bigkurty wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Some real what have you done for me lately going on in this thread .

I think the mission thing has changed a lot of peoples views.

For sure and I have a feeling that is just the start of that. He is going to use that threat around draft time to try and help him land where he wants to land.

Right now my board is Embiid, wiggins, Exum, Parker, Randle, smart, wcs.

Why would he purposely hurt his stock? Being picked later doesn't mean he'll go to the team he wants at all.

breakchains · Post #812 » by **breakchains** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:20 am

Must. Have. Embiid.

randy84 · Post #813 » by **randy84** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:20 am

Embiid is so good around the basket.

breakchains · Post #814 » by **breakchains** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:23 am

Three possession sequence :
1) Embiid doubled in the post, kick out to the open shooter for the 3 (make).
2) Protect the rim by altering the first shot. Block the second shot.
3) Get the ball deep under the basket and somehow convert it high off the glass.

Big time talent.

blazza18 · Post #815 » by **blazza18** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:24 am

breakchains wrote:Three possession sequence :
1) Embiid doubled in the post, kick out to the open shooter for the 3 (make).
2) Protect the rim by altering the first shot. Block the second shot.
3) Get the ball deep under the basket and somehow convert it high off the glass.

Big time talent.

Just switched on to see those 3 sequences.

Oh my..

bigkurty · Post #816 » by **bigkurty** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:24 am

H2tObes wrote:
bigkurty wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:I think the mission thing has changed a lot of peoples views.

For sure and I have a feeling that is just the start of that. He is going to use that threat around draft time to try and help him land where he wants to land.

Right now my board is Embiid, wiggins, Exum, Parker, Randle, smart, wcs.

Why would he purposely hurt his stock? Being picked later doesn't mean he'll go to the team he wants at all.

If Bucks are 1 and Utah, lakers, or Boston are 2,3,4, he has Mormon central or two huge markets too end up at. It's that type of situation I could see him not caring being number 1 and rather wanting to be 2-4.

H2tObes · Post #817 » by **H2tObes** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:25 am

Embiids footwork on display

jakecronus8 · Post #818 » by **jakecronus8** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:26 am

If we end up with #1 and Utah #2, we'd be idiots to not get an asset to move down one spot.

breakchains · Post #819 » by **breakchains** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:27 am

Poor Embiid can't catch a break with these garbage refs.

breakchains · Post #820 » by **breakchains** » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:29 am

Wiggins starting to attack. A little apprehensive at the very end. At some point in his life (hopefully soon), someone's getting yacked on there.

Who ya got. Vote early, vote often.