Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Possible DJ Augustin pg 64

StickeeFingaz · Post #801 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:19 am

This is going to be a great team. Cheers, Horst.

Mags FTW · Post #802 » by **Mags FTW** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:26 am

LuessiT wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:I would even take Howard at 42.

We can't afford to take boom/bust picks. We need guys with higher floors, and I think you get that when there's a player that can do at least one thing really well. I think you get that with Howard's shooting.

I like Howard a lot but for me he's the definition of boom/bust pick. There's like an over 50% chance he's unplayable.

I don't see how a guy that shoots off the dribble and screens like him completely busts.

ShootingtheJ · Post #803 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:35 am

Chuck Diesel wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:Ah, Elijah Bryant makes more sense.

He's a nice Euroleague rotation wing but doesn't have the pop, size or handle to see minutes in the NBA imo. Been watching most of their games to try to convince myself I wasn't wrong about Dragan Bender. Not going well so far.

Dang, was hoping for more from Bryant. Oh well.

ShootingtheJ · Post #804 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:37 am

Mags FTW wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:I would even take Howard at 42.

We can't afford to take boom/bust picks. We need guys with higher floors, and I think you get that when there's a player that can do at least one thing really well. I think you get that with Howard's shooting.

I like Howard a lot but for me he's the definition of boom/bust pick. There's like an over 50% chance he's unplayable.

I don't see how a guy that shoots off the dribble and screens like him completely busts.

Defense and ball movement are needed from every player. Not saying don't draft him, but not until 60, with a 2 way offer.

LuessiT · Post #805 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:39 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
I like Howard a lot but for me he's the definition of boom/bust pick. There's like an over 50% chance he's unplayable.

I don't see how a guy that shoots off the dribble and screens like him completely busts.

Defense and ball movement are needed from every player. Not saying don't draft him, but not until 60, with a 2 way offer.

I like him so much that I'd be fine taking him with #42 depending who is on the board.

crowhead76 · Post #806 » by **crowhead76** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:51 am

I think Demarre Carroll will be a target for this team.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #807 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:59 am

LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:I don't see how a guy that shoots off the dribble and screens like him completely busts.

Defense and ball movement are needed from every player. Not saying don't draft him, but not until 60, with a 2 way offer.

I like him so much that I'd be fine taking him with #42 depending who is on the board.

I'm fine drafting him at 42 but that says more about my opinion of guys available at 42 that it does supporting howard. Our summer league team next year would be awesome.

On paper he seems like a great kid, but it didn't seem like mu guys liked playing with him.

Lippo · Post #808 » by **Lippo** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:15 am

If Yogi can succeed, Marcus can...

SupremeHustle · Post #809 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:16 am

Horst didn't make any moves today? Slippin', man.

SupremeHustle · Post #810 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:18 am

LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Mags FTW wrote:I don't see how a guy that shoots off the dribble and screens like him completely busts.

Defense and ball movement are needed from every player. Not saying don't draft him, but not until 60, with a 2 way offer.

I like him so much that I'd be fine taking him with #42 depending who is on the board.

I'm gonna go check this dude out. BRB.

Bernman · Post #811 » by **Bernman** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:19 am

There was an overreaction to DiVo's bubble slump. Some guys in other sports struggled badly comparatively to outside. And even in a non bubble sport like baseball, an NL MVP in Yelich was mediocre. Covid messed up routines, & for the guys who got it can take time to recover. Back-to-back seasons DiVo was a huge x-factor. Remember, DiVo was a pick under Edens.

Last offseason there was an overreaction by Lasry to missing the playoffs due to inexperience. Instead of letting them learn from it (outside Bled who it was 2 yrs in a row for), they they just decided to get really old.

Bog's been a pretty good player, but just a solid all-arounder, & not a clear core player (< Brog & we wouldn't have had to concede a piece for him either), so I'm not even confident he'll be more of an asset than DiVo. And the Bucks are committing a ton of salary to him. They're doing it w/ Holiday & conceding a ton of picks.

This is who the Bucks are going to be then, for bad or good. It may be good enough in the short-term. But I'd have much rather just waited until Giannis was an FA, went over the cap to sign him while convincing he recruit a star. Keep DiVo on the cheap & long-term. Keep the picks. Trade Bled for a top 3+d. This may get us over the line in the interim, or not, & we regret it very, very badly.

VooDoo7 · Post #812 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:26 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Defense and ball movement are needed from every player. Not saying don't draft him, but not until 60, with a 2 way offer.

I like him so much that I'd be fine taking him with #42 depending who is on the board.

I'm gonna go check this dude out. BRB.

I'll warn ya. A Markus Howard highlight video is gonna get you crushin' hard. If he were 3" taller he'd probably be a late 1st/early 2nd.

Watch on YouTube

SupremeHustle · Post #813 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:35 am

SupremeHustle wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Defense and ball movement are needed from every player. Not saying don't draft him, but not until 60, with a 2 way offer.

I like him so much that I'd be fine taking him with #42 depending who is on the board.

I'm gonna go check this dude out. BRB.

Seems like a bucket getter for sure. He'll hit open 3s, but who is he going to guard?

I think he can play in the league, but he's not a guy the Bucks should target with their current makeup.

SupremeHustle · Post #814 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:39 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
I like him so much that I'd be fine taking him with #42 depending who is on the board.

I'm gonna go check this dude out. BRB.

I'll warn ya. A Markus Howard highlight video is gonna get you crushin' hard. If he were 3" taller he'd probably be a late 1st/early 2nd.

Watch on YouTube

If he were 3 inches taller he might be a lottery pick, but he seems like the kind of guy who needs the ball to be effective. Not a great fit. Maybe he'll end up being an Isaiah Thomas, though.

LittleRooster · Post #815 » by **LittleRooster** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:42 am

I’m not a huge Howard fan, but I wouldn’t mind a flyer as a 2nd round guy

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CJTURT · Post #816 » by **CJTURT** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:47 am

Bernman wrote:There was an overreaction to DiVo's bubble slump. Some guys in other sports struggled badly comparatively to outside. And even in a non bubble sport like baseball, an NL MVP in Yelich was mediocre. Covid messed up routines, & for the guys who got it can take time to recover. Back-to-back seasons DiVo was a huge x-factor. Remember, DiVo was a pick under Edens.

Last offseason there was an overreaction by Lasry to missing the playoffs due to inexperience. Instead of letting them learn from it (outside Bled who it was 2 yrs in a row for), they they just decided to get really old.

Bog's been a pretty good player, but just a solid all-arounder, & not a clear core player (< Brog & we wouldn't have had to concede a piece for him either), so I'm not even confident he'll be more of an asset than DiVo. And the Bucks are committing a ton of salary to him. They're doing it w/ Holiday & conceding a ton of picks.

This is who the Bucks are going to be then, for bad or good. It may be good enough in the short-term. But I'd have much rather just waited until Giannis was an FA, went over the cap to sign him while convincing he recruit a star. Keep DiVo on the cheap & long-term. Keep the picks. Trade Bled for a top 3+d. This may get us over the line in the interim, or not, & we regret it very, very badly.

I agree with everything besides in the last paragraph when u said you’d much rather wait until Giannis was a FA .gotta go now. Do whatever he says. If he stays long term we’re going to win a championship sooner or later. Rinse spin etc

Bernman · Post #817 » by **Bernman** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:53 am

CJTURT wrote:I agree with everything besides in the last paragraph when u said you’d much rather wait until Giannis was a FA .gotta go now. Do whatever he says. If he stays long term we’re going to win a championship sooner or later. Rinse spin etc

It'd be uncomfortable to wait until Giannis was a FA, but you could get a verbal commitment, & that strategy is the only way you're signing a star alongside him, which would be one of the long-term lures for him to stay + has the best efficacy for winning titles.

Next season's outlook is sunnier though, fwtw.

SirChurros · Post #818 » by **SirChurros** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:03 am

I can't imagine thinking Bogdan isn't more of an asset than Donte. Seriously, the love for Donte on this board is wild. He showed flashes and hustled. Bogdan is a proven starter who is a much better shooter and passer, two things this offense needs.

Lippo · Post #819 » by **Lippo** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:09 am

Thoughts on Mudiay? Still only 24 and learning to hit the 3

bucksfansince88 · Post #820 » by **bucksfansince88** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:11 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
I like him so much that I'd be fine taking him with #42 depending who is on the board.

I'm gonna go check this dude out. BRB.

I'll warn ya. A Markus Howard highlight video is gonna get you crushin' hard. If he were 3" taller he'd probably be a late 1st/early 2nd.

Watch on YouTube

Howard is better than Frank Mason I’d love him as our 3rd PG