2022 NBA Draft - Prospects Discussion

ShootingtheJ · Post #801 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 2:06 pm

LuessiT wrote:
skones wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:

He measures a replica of Kevon Looney, who is one of the best modern defensive centers in the game.

Lol, no he is not. The guy's a "meh" player all around and is playing a role because Golden State doesn't have any other money to spend.

Imo he's smart and very coachable, but on any other team he's a minimum player.

Opposing teams are lining up MLE offers for him when FA starts. He's an impact defender and rebounder.

leroyjw10 · Post #802 » by **leroyjw10** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:25 pm

Happy picks, in order
Jalen Williams
Tari Eason
Dalen Terry
EJ Liddell
Wendell Moore, Jr.

Decent chance the top 4 above will all be gone, but keeping fingers crossed. I just want a long wing/small ball big with the potential to guard at least three positions. These 5 have it.

Sad pics, in order
Walker Kessler (too slow)
Kennedy Chandler (too small)
Jaden Hardy (too much of a wild card)
Christian Braun (too low of a ceiling)
Blake Wesley (too small)
Bryce McGowen (too allergic to defense)
Nikola Jovic (too far away from contributing)

WRau1 · Post #803 » by **WRau1** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:34 pm

Pick the youngest guy that's all potential, he'll be a good trade chip w/ Holiday or Midds when we have to reload in a few years.

LuessiT · Post #804 » by **LuessiT** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:39 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
skones wrote:
Lol, no he is not. The guy's a "meh" player all around and is playing a role because Golden State doesn't have any other money to spend.

Imo he's smart and very coachable, but on any other team he's a minimum player.

Opposing teams are lining up MLE offers for him when FA starts. He's an impact defender and rebounder.

And it will become a bad contract immediately.

M-C-G · Post #805 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:56 pm

I am thinking that Kendall Brown is like the SF version of Donte that is just a winning guy that does a ton of things that help you win. I am fairly sure he should be available at our pick.

If we are buying late picks, I am still liking Vince Williams. I think Cole Swider is another guy we should have on our two way radar. Doesn't seem to care if someone is in his face from deep, reminds me a bit of Middleton in that regard.

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machu46 · Post #806 » by **machu46** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:09 pm

M-C-G wrote:I am thinking that Kendall Brown is like the SF version of Donte that is just a winning guy that does a ton of things that help you win. I am fairly sure he should be available at our pick.

If we are buying late picks, I am still liking Vince Williams. I think Cole Swider is another guy we should have on our two way radar. Doesn't seem to care if someone is in his face from deep, reminds me a bit of Middleton in that regard.

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Was not at all expecting to see a Syracuse player pop up in here lol. I like Swider but he probably isn’t athletic enough for the NBA. Good shooter though and plays with a lot of heart. I think Buddy Boeheim is a better NBA prospect but would be surprised if either stick in the league.

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M-C-G · Post #807 » by **M-C-G** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:15 pm

machu46 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:I am thinking that Kendall Brown is like the SF version of Donte that is just a winning guy that does a ton of things that help you win. I am fairly sure he should be available at our pick.

If we are buying late picks, I am still liking Vince Williams. I think Cole Swider is another guy we should have on our two way radar. Doesn't seem to care if someone is in his face from deep, reminds me a bit of Middleton in that regard.

Watch on YouTube

Was not at all expecting to see a Syracuse player pop up in here lol. I like Swider but he probably isn’t athletic enough for the NBA. Good shooter though and plays with a lot of heart. I think Buddy Boeheim is a better NBA prospect but would be surprised if either stick in the league.

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My thought is that since guys like Duncan Robinson, Reggie Bullock, Bertans and Forbes have carved out careers, it makes sense to take swings on these type of guys that could profile as high volume 3pt weapons. I have no idea if Cole has that potential or not, but he kind of seems to fit the profile of the type of guy I would like us to try and acquire every year in a second round pick.

Badgerlander · Post #808 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:45 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
skones wrote:
Lol, no he is not. The guy's a "meh" player all around and is playing a role because Golden State doesn't have any other money to spend.

Imo he's smart and very coachable, but on any other team he's a minimum player.

Opposing teams are lining up MLE offers for him when FA starts. He's an impact defender and rebounder.

A big reason Looney works at GS is Draymond doing a majority of the heavy lifting for him. As far as Yoan the kid is a very good help defense shot blocker and good on the perimeter staying in front of his man (with some highlight blocks of 3ptrs). He needs to learn how to drop his hips and defend with leverage on post ups in addition to putting good weight on. He is crazy quick though so maybe he can make up for it? It comes out more on offense from what I’ve seen. He also needs to work on his off ball defense. But he’s got incredible ups, tries to dunk every offensive rebound he gets his hands on, also has the best in game dunk I’ve seen in forever lol. Surprisingly he also has a 3pt shot and that nice wrap around pass out of the post to the corner. Kid is just fun.

Badgerlander · Post #809 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 7:48 pm

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Moore seems like the best all around guy to fall back on if nobody slides to us. I think he’d easily outplay his rookie deal by year 2 or 3

Badgerlander · Post #810 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 8:59 pm

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emunney · Post #811 » by **emunney** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:20 pm

Badgerlander wrote:

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Moore seems like the best all around guy to fall back on if nobody slides to us. I think he’d easily outplay his rookie deal by year 2 or 3

Year 1 imo. Would thrive within the role our 2 guard has. Winner.

Jez2983 · Post #812 » by **Jez2983** » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:50 pm

DrWood wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:Out of curiosity, if you knew you could draft Brook Lopez where would you take him in the 1st?

16-28

2022 19 year old Brook Lopez has a completely different skillset to 2006 19 year old Lopez (or however old he was).

He's trim, athletic, protects the rim and hoists bulk threes. Hell maybe he even rebounds.

He's top-10.

JayMKE · Post #813 » by **JayMKE** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:04 am

idk if Brook could have ever been trim and athletic, he'd still go in lottery based on his tremendous size + skill

Badgerlander · Post #814 » by **Badgerlander** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:22 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:

Yes, this is the type of center we should be looking for. 6'9", 7'3" wingspan, quick feet, can jump. He's a late bloomer because he started playing late, but we could hide him on the roster as the 14th guy is we can get quality 1-12.

Eh I don’t think he is a center but certainly a bouncy forward and we struggled to find even 10 quality guys last year. I’m almost expecting to carry 4 guys that would barely make a g league team on our roster this year

He measures a replica of Kevon Looney, who is one of the best modern defensive centers in the game.

Gotta say that once you said Looney I can’t unsee it now lol, definitely there. But Yoan tops him athletically, which makes me wonder how much the hip surgery robbed Looneys hops. I’ve seen Yoan move his feet around the basket with the ball a few times lightning fast, like had to rewind a few times to understand what just happened fast. Looney has quick hands defensively but he moves like an old man at times

BroncoBuck · Post #815 » by **BroncoBuck** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:58 am

M-C-G wrote:I am thinking that Kendall Brown is like the SF version of Donte that is just a winning guy that does a ton of things that help you win. I am fairly sure he should be available at our pick.

If we are buying late picks, I am still liking Vince Williams. I think Cole Swider is another guy we should have on our two way radar. Doesn't seem to care if someone is in his face from deep, reminds me a bit of Middleton in that regard.

Watch on YouTube

Been in on Kendall Brown. He’s a good basketball player even though his shot isn’t strong. He’s so young there’s the upside of his shot coming around and him absolutely breaking out. If the shot doesn’t improve he’s still a good basketball player, just not a starter which is okay at #24.

machu46 · Post #816 » by **machu46** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:04 am

The Athletic did their annual thing where they interview a bunch of scouts and use their quotes to write scouting reports on all the prospects. Still reading but one interesting thing is they all seem to think Walker Kessler will be a shooter in the NBA.

https://theathletic.com/3365902/2022/06/20/nba-draft-2022-anonymous-scouting-report/?source=user_shared_article

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DrWood · Post #817 » by **DrWood** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:29 am

LuessiT wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
LuessiT wrote:
Imo he's smart and very coachable, but on any other team he's a minimum player.

Opposing teams are lining up MLE offers for him when FA starts. He's an impact defender and rebounder.

And it will become a bad contract immediately.

Can you give me the lotto numbers for Wednesday?

LuessiT · Post #818 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:31 am

machu46 wrote:The Athletic did their annual thing where they interview a bunch of scouts and use their quotes to write scouting reports on all the prospects. Still reading but one interesting thing is they all seem to think Walker Kessler will be a shooter in the NBA.

https://theathletic.com/3365902/2022/06/20/nba-draft-2022-anonymous-scouting-report/?source=user_shared_article

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I'm always questioning players' ability to shoot if they have bad FT% but Kessler wouldn't be allowed to shoot them in-game if he wasn't capable in practice.

machu46 · Post #819 » by **machu46** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:51 am

LuessiT wrote:
machu46 wrote:The Athletic did their annual thing where they interview a bunch of scouts and use their quotes to write scouting reports on all the prospects. Still reading but one interesting thing is they all seem to think Walker Kessler will be a shooter in the NBA.

https://theathletic.com/3365902/2022/06/20/nba-draft-2022-anonymous-scouting-report/?source=user_shared_article

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I'm always questioning players' ability to shoot if they have bad FT% but Kessler wouldn't be allowed to shoot them in-game if he wasn't capable in practice.

I kinda agree but man his free throws are even worse than the percentages look. He’ll barely hit rim on one and then break the backboard with the next lol. I’d feel more comfortable with Ben Simmons shooting a free throw than Kessler.

It’s so difficult to square that with the idea that Kessler could be an adequate 3 point shooter.

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MVP2110 · Post #820 » by **MVP2110** » Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:55 am

I definitely believe Kessler can develop to be a passable shooter. Especially with our staff who has made guys like Robin Lopez and John Henson passable in that area. It's why I am so high on Kessler. Give me that interior defense with passable shooting and you have found our long term Brook replacement, something that isn't easy to do