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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#801 » by emunney » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:45 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Windhorst isn't necessarily wrong. If Portland deals Jrue for Brogdon and two #1's, we will have some issues with that team.

We need Jrue to stay in Portland. Since the trade is official, do they have to wait now to re-route him somewhere?


They can't do trades that require them to aggregate his with other salaries. Shouldn't be an issue with a salary of his size.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#802 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:47 pm

We're giving an awfully lot of air to an airbag, guys.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#803 » by greekbuck34 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:49 pm

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greekbuck34 wrote:When was the last time a Wisconsin team had two clear superstars at the same time?


Kareem and Oscar
Favre and White
Rodgers and Adams

That's all I got atm :) to excited to worry about the old teams i want to watch this team right now. Only 27 days to go :D


Dame was a proper Batman of a team for many years. He is 2nd best shooter in the league and one of the best ever. He is also one of the best closers in the game. All the kids know who he is and he just had his best season of his career as the league's top 3 scorer. He is a legit superstar of the game right now.

Were all the guys above legit superstars at while they were playing at your state? Not just all stars or great young players years before they became proper superstars. I know there is no doubt about Kareem and Rodgers. I think Oscar Robertson was pretty young when he joined the Bucks and I have no idea about the others.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#804 » by midranger » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:50 pm

Sports media with sobering reality that the biggest trade target from this summer ending up in Milwaukee, likely (hopefully) means that the biggest trade target for next summer will be staying in Milwaukee.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#805 » by BucksRule18 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:56 pm

At this point I think there's very little chance that Giannis doesn't sign the full extension next summer for the following reasons:

1.) In addition to winning titles, Giannis also understands the importance of maximizing his profits while he's still in this league. He will sign the max extension next month instead of playing around with a 2-year plus 1 type of contract.

2.) With big question marks around Middleton's overall health/effectiveness over the next few years, Lillard as the 2nd guy takes a huge burden off Giannis. Lillard can also attract other veterans on minimum contracts to come play in Milwaukee.

3.) If God forbid the Bucks flame out over the next few years due to aging, injuries, etc., I have no doubt that Horst will do right by Giannis and trade him to a contending team if Giannis asks out. Giannis can press that eject button at any time with no repercussions.

With all that said, I do agree with others that Horst and Giannis orchestrated this ruse to help inflate the value of 2028-2030 picks. Horst is playing chess while other GM's are playing checkers.

Also, I doubt that the 2028 and 2030 pick swaps will make that much of a difference. Let's say if the Bucks decide to break-up the team after 3 years. We will still get a big haul for Giannis and have enough money to spend on mediocre players to stay in playoff contention. Even if our 2028 pick turns out to be a No.8, I doubt that Portland's will be worse than 15 or 16.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#806 » by Daver » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:56 pm

midranger wrote:Sports media with sobering reality that the biggest trade target from this summer ending up in Milwaukee, likely (hopefully) means that the biggest trade target for next summer will be staying in Milwaukee.



I dont think horst makes this trade if giannis didnt give horst some form of wink wink nod nod that hes resigning next off season.Hes staying have no doubt.Think he stays as long as dame does
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#807 » by skbucks1985 » Thu Sep 28, 2023 1:59 pm

I also get where Windhorst is coming from. Where Jrue goes could have pretty massive reverberations around the league. Its also just as possible that he goes to a team like the Knicks where he'd make them appreciably better but doesn't really change the league-wide title landscape. If he goes to Boston then you've got a clear 1-2 in the East and a pretty significant drop-off after that. If he goes to Philly, it obviously depends on whether Harden is going out in perhaps another 3-way deal. If he goes to the Clippers, I'm very skeptical that the Clips will ever stay healthy enough for a true playoff run. But on paper they'll be very good.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#808 » by raferfenix » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:00 pm

BucksRule18 wrote:At this point I think there's very little chance that Giannis doesn't sign the full extension next summer


Might Giannis and the team alike prefer a shorter term extension now to align his contract with Dame?

Waiting until the summer Giannis could get an extra year but if it’s not a lot more money per year I could see the team at least pushing him to sign now considering the commitment to winning throw down we just made.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#809 » by GoldenAntlers » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:03 pm

LUKE23 wrote:The 87 games last two seasons may be a positive assuming he can stay healthy for this one. I would assume this trade has revitalized him and hopefully he’s been busting his ass to get in shape amid the trade talks.
I've low key been thinking he was resting last year to preserve his body for his next team.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#810 » by RogerMurdock » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:05 pm

I woke up to my alarm this morning and did the old "I'll just close my eyes for a few more minutes." I guess I instantly fell back asleep because I woke up 45 minutes later. Got to work later than normal and apologized to my co-workers, letting them know I'm still on Dame Time.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#811 » by Daver » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:06 pm

raferfenix wrote:
BucksRule18 wrote:At this point I think there's very little chance that Giannis doesn't sign the full extension next summer


Might Giannis and the team alike prefer a shorter term extension now to align his contract with Dame?

Waiting until the summer Giannis could get an extra year but if it’s not a lot more money per year I could see the team at least pushing him to sign now considering the commitment to winning throw down we just made.



I read its a extra 60 million if he signs next off season thats alot of ca ching
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#812 » by GoldenAntlers » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:07 pm

Someone was arguing Middleton was a better defender than offensive weapon last night on some show.... crazy how people still have no idea about this team.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#813 » by Licensed to Il » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:07 pm

I took the “I want to play in Miami” stuff at face value. But also that if that fell apart, Milwaukee was the most sensible landing spot for Dame.

Our offense has the potential to be “golden state-esque.” We have two elite perimeter guys, and Brook and Giannis. Our two superstars can’t be stopped one on one. We have some pieces for a competent defense, even with Lillard. From a basketball perspective, there is so much talent here. Ill miss Jrue as a player and person, but Dame is an upgrade regarding overall talent and fit.

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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#814 » by Fotis St » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:12 pm

Can someone tell Horst he has to make .... ONE MORE "Fotis St - The Basketball Guru" move ... call Mark Cuban and tell him Jrue is the perfect fit for Doncic... Just ONE MORE CALL Horsty

Jrue should not get traded to the Heat or the Celtics.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#815 » by BucksBrew » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:12 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:
BucksBrew wrote:
greekbuck34 wrote:When was the last time a Wisconsin team had two clear superstars at the same time?


Kareem and Oscar
Favre and White
Rodgers and Adams

That's all I got atm :) to excited to worry about the old teams i want to watch this team right now. Only 27 days to go :D


Dame was a proper Batman of a team for many years. He is 2nd best shooter in the league and one of the best ever. He is also one of the best closers in the game. All the kids know who he is and he just had his best season of his career as the league's top 3 scorer. He is a legit superstar of the game right now.

Were all the guys above legit superstars at while they were playing at your state? Not just all stars or great young players years before they became proper superstars. I know there is no doubt about Kareem and Rodgers. I think Oscar Robertson was pretty young when he joined the Bucks and I have no idea about the others.




Kareem was a stud and Oscar was at the end of his career when he came to Milwaukee similar to Dame.
Brett Favre 3 time MVP and and Reggie White is one of the greatest defensive lineman of all time. When they retired Favre was the all time leader in most QB stats and White was the all time leader in sacks.
Rodgers 4 time MVP and Adams was/is best receiver in the league
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#816 » by sidney lanier » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:15 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:I think Oscar Robertson was pretty young when he joined the Bucks and I have no idea about the others.


He was thought to be over the hill when he joined the Bucks at age 31, but what a perfect complement to young Lew he was. Lew, now Kareem, still calls him the greatest non-center ever -- greater than Michael, LeBron, or Magic.

At age 31 and still searching for a championship, Robertson joined second-year center Abdul-Jabbar (then called Lew Alcindor) in the Bucks’ lineup. With Abdul-Jabbar winning the scoring title and the MVP award, Milwaukee posted the NBA’s best record in 1970-71 at 66-16. Robertson had what for him was a typical late-career season: Playing every game but one, he tallied 19.4 points, 8.2 assists, and 5.7 rebounds per contest.
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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#817 » by raferfenix » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:18 pm

Daver wrote:I read its a extra 60 million if he signs next off season thats alot of ca ching


I think that might be mostly just for that extra year though.

Dame’s deal goes through 2027. Giannis is 2026. Not sure of the shortest term extension that would be allowed but Giannis might also make the most money (and retain more flexibility) if he’s younger when he signs the next extension / deal after this one.

Antetokounmpo became extension-eligible last week for up to three years, projected at $177.5 million. He has until the day before the regular season starts to sign it, but there’s a good chance he won’t. If he waits until next year, he could add an additional year for a total of four years, projected at $245.5 million. While he might wait to extend until next summer, the acquisition of Lillard certainly increases the chances that he will.



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Re: Lillard traded to Bucks 

Post#819 » by MiltownHawkeye » Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:27 pm

greekbuck34 wrote:
BucksBrew wrote:
greekbuck34 wrote:When was the last time a Wisconsin team had two clear superstars at the same time?


Kareem and Oscar
Favre and White
Rodgers and Adams

That's all I got atm :) to excited to worry about the old teams i want to watch this team right now. Only 27 days to go :D


Dame was a proper Batman of a team for many years. He is 2nd best shooter in the league and one of the best ever. He is also one of the best closers in the game. All the kids know who he is and he just had his best season of his career as the league's top 3 scorer. He is a legit superstar of the game right now.

Were all the guys above legit superstars at while they were playing at your state? Not just all stars or great young players years before they became proper superstars. I know there is no doubt about Kareem and Rodgers. I think Oscar Robertson was pretty young when he joined the Bucks and I have no idea about the others.

Rodgers was in MVP form while Adams was generally considered a t3 WR in the league so yeah

There have been a couple of instances the past couple decades where the Brewers had multiple MVP-caliber players at the same time but none of them were future Hall of Fame guys
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