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Post#801 » by raferfenix » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:24 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:This was a Joe Smith type acquisition. Smith was damn good for us for a couple years in his role.


Interested in playing out this comparison.

Joe Smith was not much of a garbage pail defensive minded role player before he came to Milwaukee. But that's what he became.

Wouldn't it be amazing if Kuzma would use his athleticism to play the kind of defense he did earlier in his career here.

Similarly to Joe he won't be expected to be as much of a focal point offensively but he has those skills in his bag as well.
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Post#802 » by Packbuckman » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:26 pm

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soxperry wrote:Andre has to go to the bench now right?

Prince will go to bench kuzma starting sf I would keep Ajax in starting lineup to see how it looks if you need more shooting then go with AJ or Trent or even Porter

Dre and Kuzma as the starting wings would be an abomination offensively lol. We absolutely need AJ to be one of the two starters in those positions.

:lol: Maybe but you know Doc is going to try it first :D
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Post#803 » by WiscoKing13 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:26 pm

So Marjon is on our injury report. So no deal, correct?

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Post#804 » by Siefer » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:31 pm

Really hope we don't try to run out Dame/Dre/Kuzma/Giannis/Brook as a starting unit. Green needs to be the starting 2 for anything to make sense.
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Post#805 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:36 pm

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I am willing to give it a chance, I also like that we got a guy who is physically capable of playing B2Bs. That's pretty neat.


yes! and i know crazy thought..but now somebody else on the squad may be able to take a deserved rest from time to time

alot is made of middletons numbers in the playoffs last year with dame and giannis out but i wonder if part of the reason both the other two went down is the load they had to pull in a difficult season where khris got all the vacay
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Post#807 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:40 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:So Marjon is on our injury report. So no deal, correct?

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It's weird but he's also listed as "not with the team" I'd think if the trade was off he would be there but maybe not? Possibly that he just still has to be listed on someone's report since and at this moment he's still technically on our team. I don't know why all the other trades were logged on the NBA's transactions page but not this one though. Surely the medicals and flights and whatnot are still in progress for a number of them also.
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Post#808 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:42 pm

did i read somewhere that giannis is a fan for kuz and may have pushed for him? did i imagine reading that last night somewhere?
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Post#809 » by machu46 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:42 pm

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It's weird but he's also listed as "not with the team" I'd think if the trade was off he would be there but maybe not? Possibly that he just still has to be listed on someone's report since and at this moment he's still technically on our team. I don't know why all the other trades were logged on the NBA's transactions page but not this one though. Surely the medicals and flights and whatnot are still in progress for a number of them also.


Yeah, I mean, we haven't even completed the physical for Kuzma yet and that one was officially announced. Not sure what's up with the Beauchamp one but until I hear otherwise I will assume the trade is still happening but paperwork just hasn't been processed for whatever reason.
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Post#810 » by BigO » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:43 pm

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soxperry wrote:Andre has to go to the bench now right?

I'd argue what he brings defensively is needed more than ever.



And I'd argue that his defense hasn't been great. He has reverted back to letting his man get by him and contesting from behind, even on non ball screens.

Watch Green, he does his best to keep his guy in front of him and he's pretty good at it. i would start Green and encourage him to shoot more, even it means shooting twos. The Bucks can't keep starting multiple non scorers.
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Post#811 » by emunney » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:47 pm

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Excellent analogy. I've always called it the Annie Hall dilemma.


Yeah, Woody Allen, from late HS through college, I could not get enough of him. (Plenty was known about him by then and it didn't register with me.) I still chuckle thinking of the scene in Bananas when Vargas addresses his people after taking over San Marcos. The influence he had on my sense of humor and *worldview* is incalculable. Yet I can not watch and enjoy *any* of his **** anymore. Stardust Memories is one of the most underrated comedies of all time. Annie Hall and Manhattan serve dually as masterpieces and criminal confessions.

And I just watched this again and it made me laugh again.



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Post#812 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Feb 7, 2025 5:47 pm

Taking the non-Bucks fans temperature on the deadline moves just for fun:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6121229/2025/02/07/luka-doncic-lakers-mavericks-jimmy-butler-warriors-heat-nba-trade-deadline-the-bounce/

Winners:

Kyle Kuzma: After toiling in Washington for years and recently deciding he was done playing Wizards basketball, he got moved to the Bucks (27-22). He’ll have a real chance to remind people he can be an excellent role player. The Bucks get a solid B here.


https://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/10153831-biggest-winners-and-losers-from-2025-nba-trade-deadline

Loser: Milwaukee Bucks

The Bucks are ostensibly in the hunt for the 2025 championship. While it makes sense to want to get younger at Middleton's roster spot, Kyle Kuzma is 29. By NBA standards, he's no spring chicken. He's also nowhere near as reliable a shooter and passer as Middleton.

Trading a franchise legend should almost certainly require a better return, especially when that legend is still helpful.

This season, the Bucks are plus-7.4 points per 100 possessions when Giannis Antetokounmpo, Damian Lillard and Middleton were all on the floor. They're plus-4.0 when Giannis and Lillard play without Middleton.


Yahoo Sports:

Loser: Milwaukee Bucks

I get the argument for moving on from Khris Middleton and bringing in Kyle Kuzma. (Hell, I made it.) I’m just skeptical that leaning on Kuzma will get the Bucks where they hope to go.

Yes, you’d hope Kuzma will experience a revival at joining a proper team after muddling through by far the worst season of his career for the impoverished Wizards. It would have to be one hell of a bounce-back, though, considering we’re talking about somebody who’s shooting 42% from the field, 28% from 3-point land and 60% from the foul line with a barely positive assist-to-turnover ratio. (And it’s not like Kuz is exactly making up for it with his work as a defensive demon.)

I understand that years of injuries have limited Middleton, and that Giannis is the one who’s the prime mover. But if you’re not actually trying to put the most competitive roster you can around him right friggin’ now, then sacrificing someone who got you to the top of the mountain for tax savings feels … well, cheap. Unseemly.


Not putting The Ringer article link up here. You guys already know what conclusions those clowns are drawing from this. And it sure isn't about wondering whether Bobby Portis picks up his player option.
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Post#813 » by BroncoBuck » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:01 pm

If Charlotte waives Reddish, we are an ideal landing. I don’t know why they’d keep him.
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Post#814 » by packer396 » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:07 pm

I wonder if ownership was not made aware of KPJ's "baggage" and now someone is trying to get out of that deal
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Post#815 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:08 pm

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SirChurros wrote:I’ll be honest, Kuz seems like a good dude and I always kind of assumed he was a douche.


kuzmas reputation was and always will be affected by how lebron maneuvered for years to dump him in deals. imagine being a young guy with a little talent being so openly shopped/trashed/shamed by your team captain.

i think it altered his perception permanently with the casuals. its similar but perhaps the worst of reeves and caruso and russell and shroder and almost anybody out there and how it worked out. if lebron doesnt win any given year his cast is shamed and devalued. even westbrook and davis reputations were harmed compared to how other places would be.

so to go from that situation to the tanking mess in washington plaing with the likes of poole and others where he continued to be shopped and go thru the motions.... reputation wise hes had a cursed career....im happy we may give him his first real shot of ever being in a situation where he can feel wanted on a winner with an important and supported role. i think theres a similarity to bobby portis here with how these next couple seasons go. hes obviously a talented guy. i really hope were getting the very best and experienced and grateful version of him yet


He also fed into the perception with the way he comported himself, that it seemed like he was a guy who cared just as much if not more about living the LA lifestyle as he did about basketball. That said, as someone who wasn't his biggest fan when he was with LA, it always seemed much more like immaturity that he would inevitably grow out of than anything else. And by all indications he seems to have done that.


so he got to LA as a youngster and acted like wilt and magic less the maturity.

i think thats forgiveable
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Post#816 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:10 pm

If you trust our very own he is saying KPJ is already in Milwakee and has been at the practice facility so the trade is probably still on.

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Post#817 » by Packbuckman » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:11 pm

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soxperry wrote:Andre has to go to the bench now right?

I'd argue what he brings defensively is needed more than ever.



And I'd argue that his defense hasn't been great. He has reverted back to letting his man get by him and contesting from behind, even on non ball screens.

Watch Green, he does his best to keep his guy in front of him and he's pretty good at it. i would start Green and encourage him to shoot more, even it means shooting twos. The Bucks can't keep starting multipke non scorers.

Maybe he does stay in front a bit more but has no jumping ability or driving ability. Ajax is a better rebounder and passer. He does try I give him credit for that but he is not a great option either Trent might be the best option since he’s got his confidence back. Maybe it’s the new kid porter got to see how he plays when he gets here.
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Post#818 » by Brewhoopfan » Fri Feb 7, 2025 6:11 pm

The Clippers end of the deal is obviously addition by subtraction. This KPJ experiment will likely end the same as the Boogie experiment.
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I’m not from Milwaukee so it doesn’t have the same pizzazz but I know Kuz had to score some brownie points with the fans mentioning the lake.
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