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Chad34 · Post #821 » by **Chad34** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:53 pm

Rstuedes24 wrote:Hypothetically, if we would have resigned Brogdon could we have still had the same off-season moves with him on the payroll?

Cause with Bled gone he could have moved to PG, and a lineup of Brogdon/Jrue/Midds/Giannis/Brook would have been insane

that's actually depressing to think about

Chad34 · Post #822 » by **Chad34** » Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:57 pm

If you're horst, how much time do you give pat, ddv, and anyone else that might not be a fit, before you try and upgrade them? What if one, or both of the rookies show more, how long until you give them an opportunity?

Gianstoppable · Post #823 » by **Gianstoppable** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:00 am

I have this recurring feeling that we go after Oladipo

Chad34 · Post #824 » by **Chad34** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:01 am

Gianstoppable wrote:I have this recurring feeling that we go after Oladipo

That would be awesome. I thought he looked well in one of the Pacers preseason games I watched.

Baddy Chuck · Post #825 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:04 am

I want James Harden. I'm getting greedy.

ShootingtheJ · Post #826 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:15 am

Chad34 wrote:
Rstuedes24 wrote:Hypothetically, if we would have resigned Brogdon could we have still had the same off-season moves with him on the payroll?

Cause with Bled gone he could have moved to PG, and a lineup of Brogdon/Jrue/Midds/Giannis/Brook would have been insane

that's actually depressing to think about

Just remember that some of the picks we received for Brogdan were used to get Jrue. I doubt we get Jrue if we don't have the Indy pick in this year's draft. Also, with $20 million extra salary, we'd have been limited to the tax MLE, and couldn't have used the BAE, because we'd be over the hard cap that the BAE activates.

We also used a Brogdan pick in the Nwora deal, which looks smarter every time we see him.

Chad34 · Post #827 » by **Chad34** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:16 am

Zach Gelb is talking all bucks and Giannis right now. Peter Feigin is coming up next

LuessiT · Post #828 » by **LuessiT** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:20 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:I want James Harden. I'm getting greedy.

Nothing greedy about wanting to pair up a top 5 player in his prime with a top 5 player in his prime. :wink:

steger_3434 · Post #829 » by **steger_3434** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:23 am

LuessiT wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I want James Harden. I'm getting greedy.

Nothing greedy about wanting to pair up a top 5 player in his prime with a top 5 player in his prime.

I’m all for getting harden. I really think it would work because Giannis besides being all world offensively is the best defender in the league as well and is probably one of the only superstars to allow another guy more offense while he becomes the best defender in history

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randy84 · Post #830 » by **randy84** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:27 am

humanrefutation wrote:I'm more concerned with Bud figuring out a way to utilize Jrue correctly - with sets to maximize his partnerships with Middleton and Giannis - instead of treating him like George Hill and having him just hang around the three point line.

That's my point. Either get players that fit your system or change your system to fit the players you have. Bud doesn't seem willing to change his system so why not get players that fit his system?

Gianstoppable · Post #831 » by **Gianstoppable** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:28 am

Noah Vonleh was waived and could be a nice guy to take a shot on

BigO · Post #832 » by **BigO** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:31 am

Chad34 wrote:If you're horst, how much time do you give pat, ddv, and anyone else that might not be a fit, before you try and upgrade them? What if one, or both of the rookies show more, how long until you give them an opportunity?

If you're Horst, how much time do you give Bud before you try and upgrade him? Hopefully, not long. He is the weak link in all of this.

Chad34 · Post #833 » by **Chad34** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:32 am

Gianstoppable wrote:Noah Vonleh was waived and could be a nice guy to take a shot on

What kind of player is he? I haven't seen him too much, looks like he has good size.

BigO · Post #834 » by **BigO** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:33 am

humanrefutation wrote:I'm more concerned with Bud figuring out a way to utilize Jrue correctly - with sets to maximize his partnerships with Middleton and Giannis - instead of treating him like George Hill and having him just hang around the three point line.

Bingo. You're one of the posters who gets it.

Baddy Chuck · Post #835 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:38 am

BigO wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:I'm more concerned with Bud figuring out a way to utilize Jrue correctly - with sets to maximize his partnerships with Middleton and Giannis - instead of treating him like George Hill and having him just hang around the three point line.

Bingo. You're one of the posters who gets it.

I mean its not like he used Bledsoe wrong, slot him in the spot and hope he performs better.

+BucksFuture · Post #836 » by **+BucksFuture** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:40 am

Now that the deal is done, we can finally shift conversations to how we continue to evolve the team. Assuming Jrue signs his extension in Feb (who wouldn't want to link themselves to G) most of our contracts are pretty small. I think we have a couple more firsts to work with (21, 23, 24?) but who would you all prefer we look at? Harden and Oladipo seem a bit out of reach without moving Mids or Brook.

Gianstoppable · Post #837 » by **Gianstoppable** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:42 am

Chad34 wrote:
Gianstoppable wrote:Noah Vonleh was waived and could be a nice guy to take a shot on

What kind of player is he? I haven't seen him too much, looks like he has good size.

High energy guy that can shoot a bit, still only 24. Might be worth a shot, just a guy to give you a 5-10 min burst of energy if needed

TroyD92 · Post #838 » by **TroyD92** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:43 am

ElPeregrino wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Brook makes no sense on this team. I know it's easy to delude yourself that he's a floor spacer, but he's not. In the modern NBA there's no reason Giannis shouldn't be the starting center. Fixes so many issues by just pushing another shooter into the starting lineup.

Brook was the anchor of our defensive system which ranked #1 in the league the past two seasons. He's not here for his offense.

That defense sure got exposed in the playoffs too

Jedzz · Post #839 » by **Jedzz** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:46 am

Chad34 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Chad34 wrote:How crazy of a take is this? I'm wondering if it would've been better to have mason as the backup pg than DJA? I know DJA is still getting his feet wet

I actually prefer this lineup:

Augustin, Jrue, Middleton, Giannis, BroLo
Mason, DDV, Connaughton, Wilson, Portis

Prefer Jrue as an SG, prefer DDV on the bench, prefer not to play Forbes.

I think whoever posted we have too many specialists, and not enough two way players had something. If we're not utilizing their strengths then it's going to be a double negative. Also we gave up a lot of size, especially with our guards. The play will get better for sure with more time together. Hopefully it'll improve enough, and the FO can pull a trade, or two out their ass somehow.

Was Mason resigned?

Daver · Post #840 » by **Daver** » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:50 am

Ok voodoo great job you were spot on 90% of this board owes you a big IM SORRY ....
Enough of giannis on to the next story mr voodoo is harden now a done deal with midds DDV heading out