Re: 23/24 College Basketball
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 2:13 am
Virginia showing why we don't need to expand the tourney.
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MissKhriddleton wrote:How do they determine who gets a play-in game? Doesn’t it make sense to take the 8 worst teams and have them play with a chance to make it? Yet we have two 10 seeds playing each other.
MissKhriddleton wrote:How do they determine who gets a play-in game? Doesn’t it make sense to take the 8 worst teams and have them play with a chance to make it? Yet we have two 10 seeds playing each other.
Kerb Hohl wrote:Bennett is another guy that probably isn't going to be overly successful in the transfer era. He's gotten some but is not ruthless enough about turning over garbage on his roster. He does love recruiting against Wisconsin or guys from the state, though.
RogerMurdock wrote:Kerb Hohl wrote:Bennett is another guy that probably isn't going to be overly successful in the transfer era. He's gotten some but is not ruthless enough about turning over garbage on his roster. He does love recruiting against Wisconsin or guys from the state, though.
Yeah, it looks like the NIL and portal is hurting him and program. He tends to identify undervalued high school players (though plenty of top 100 players have gone to Virginia) and develops them over 3-4 years. It's not a one-and-done program, not a program that tends to recruit guys who can come in and blow the doors off immediately. Hell, Brogdon and Hunter both redshirted.
But now guys have been transferring out as soon as they don't get playing time, though really only one or two have done much elsewhere. In the meantime, the kids he has brought in as band-aids haven't really been too good. His transfers-in before the NIL and portal days were often top contributors, but they knew they were going to sit a year and grow with their new teammates.
It's actually pretty miraculous that Virginia finished 3rd in the ACC and had as good of a record as they did. They lost their entire frontcourt through graduation and transfer. Only one returning starter (Beekman, who carried the team all season) and only three other guys - Dunn, McKNeely, and Murray - who got minutes on the team last year. Only one transfer was really any good - Groves, who shot the three fantastically, except for the in the tourney. But that's all he could do.
Bennett's slow style of offense has worked really well in the past, but that's been with very skilled players who were willing to be at the school for 3-4 years, learn the system, and not worry about their individual numbers. Those days might be over. Fortunately, it sounds like Bennett might know that, based on his post-game comments, so we'll see if he attacks the portal any differently.
The tourney loss was a perfect snapshot of how flawed this year's team was (and again, how good of a job Bennett actually did with the talent he had). No post game at all. None. Thus, no ability to get easy points inside or offensive rebounds. In turn, defenses didn't have to respect the bigs and could plaster themselves to shooters, none of whom could create for themselves. No open threes turned into nervous shooters and the whole thing spiraled. On defense, the bigs were not quick/aware enough and were routinely abused (both main guys were in their first year on the team) and the non-Beekman guards couldn't stick with their guys (McKneeley did have a bum ankle and to their credit, they do try hard).
The team had just enough talent, grit, and ability to get hot from three that they could win a lot of close games, but when they lost things usually got away from them and got ugly.
This was a different team than some of the old "bad for basketball" teams. Many of those (the title team, the Brogdon teams, for example) were good offensively, just slow paced that fans didn't enjoy watching. This team was just bad on offense and combined with the pace, it made for some ugly, ugly stuff at times.
Kerb Hohl wrote:Also hurting Bennett is the game being more and more about getting to the line with the new rules. Your offense needs to drive action to the basket to take advantage, which Bennett's never really has. That one may be fine assuming better offensive players.
jschligs wrote:Each year we do a spread pool and it’s my favorite March Madness bracket ever.
16 guys, each person gets 1 team from each region. Randomly assigned. You play spreads. If your team covers, even if they lost the game, you move on. Last year I had Fairley Dickenson who covered first two rounds and then took over FAU. Rode them to second.
MikeIsGood wrote:jschligs wrote:Each year we do a spread pool and it’s my favorite March Madness bracket ever.
16 guys, each person gets 1 team from each region. Randomly assigned. You play spreads. If your team covers, even if they lost the game, you move on. Last year I had Fairley Dickenson who covered first two rounds and then took over FAU. Rode them to second.
This is interesting. So if the guy who originally had FAU got his covers correct also, do you both have FAU at that point?
jschligs wrote:Each year we do a spread pool and it’s my favorite March Madness bracket ever.
16 guys, each person gets 1 team from each region. Randomly assigned. You play spreads. If your team covers, even if they lost the game, you move on. Last year I had Fairley Dickenson who covered first two rounds and then took over FAU. Rode them to second.