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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#841 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:28 pm

RHJ and OG? Might as well just give them the repeat now.
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#842 » by emunney » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:28 pm

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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#843 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:29 pm

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paulpressey25 wrote:^^^^think that’s a parody account he’s trying to start.

And for the record, you don’t want Jabari back. We all saw he’s uncoachable and the defensive system collapses when he’s in the game.

If Jabari comes back here on the minimum with a team that made it to the conference finals in the first year without him and the reinging MVP, I think you have a different Jabari than the one that thought he was worth 80m.

I'm pretty sure he still owns his place in Milwaukee. Rather have him than a recent signee


No way I would want him back, this article cements it for me. Jabari is still taking shots at his past teams and does not realize he is the common denominator in all of his problems. He is just trying to suck up to the Wizards to get a contract.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jabari-parker-says-loyalty-lies-210555383.html

You could read it that way or you could take it literally and see it as shots at Kidd and Boylen (versus past teams). Both coaches lost their teams by doing exactly what Jabari is saying. It seems like he doesn't hold ill will against the Bucks if the reports are true.

"Those guys in Washington are always going to be on the top of my list as far as my loyalty goes."

Parker made an effort to specifically raise the Wizards coaching staff, which was a drastic change of pace from what he had to go through with Bulls head coach, Jim Boylen.

"I just wasn’t thinking. I was just out there. I didn’t have to deal with inconsistencies. I didn’t have to deal with mind games," Parker said.

"I had coaches there that were very mature — they were players’ coaches. That’s one thing I really loved about them."

Parker, 24, is currently one of the headliners in a now 'picked through' forward market on day seven of free agency.

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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#844 » by bizarro » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:30 pm

RHJ to the Raps? :(
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#845 » by Swan Vox » Sun Jul 7, 2019 10:39 pm

bizarro wrote:RHJ to the Raps? :(


I’d like to see the numbers, but damn, would much rather have RHJ than Thanasis. : /
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#846 » by tydett » Sun Jul 7, 2019 11:15 pm

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It's a weird move. Who is in the front office down there?


Easily could've used that contract + Aaron Gordon to acquire Khris Middleton and, like, 3 first-round picks around the trade deadline.
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#847 » by Plossum » Sun Jul 7, 2019 11:19 pm

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You think OKC will just dump him? I get it w/r/t his contract but it's very hard for me to see them doing that.

I guess it depends if they want to go full rebuild or not. But they’re not going to get any value back on that deal. I think the best they can hope for is getting back some crappy contracts that save them money in the long run.

I’m not sure WB or OKC is going to see much point in playing out this contract.
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#848 » by steger_3434 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 12:54 am

Any news on Jabari? The guy out of the league already?


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Re: ATL: Free Agency 

Post#849 » by DrWood » Mon Jul 8, 2019 1:02 am

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Diggr14 wrote:We really shouldn’t be too giddy.


You know Toronto and Masai will be trying for the next several seasons to poach Giannis, and we just tied two anchors around our necks in Middleton and Bledsoe for the foreseeable future.

can everyone please stop mentioning Bledsoe as a bad contract. He was the 2nd best guy on our team and he's making half of what Midds is going to make.


Bledsoe had a good reg season but no one cares about that anymore. His Toronto series was abysmal. He was a big reason we lost. His contract is fine but he wasnt the second best player on the team

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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#850 » by DrWood » Mon Jul 8, 2019 1:13 am

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Why? He hated Wiggins because Wiggins gave no effort. Westbrook is the opposite of that.

Westbrook is the epitome of giving no effort when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. He has a terrible basketball IQ with the ball in his hands and he is one of the laziest players in the league when he doesn't have the ball (on both offense and defense).


If he is one of the laziest players in the league, that makes averaging a triple double while consistently doing excellently on advanced defensive stats even more remarkable.

or . . . the simpler explanation is that he's not lazy at all.
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#851 » by Coach Carter » Mon Jul 8, 2019 1:49 am

raptors fans calling out uncle dennis now, hilarious
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#852 » by Coach Carter » Mon Jul 8, 2019 1:52 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:RHJ and OG? Might as well just give them the repeat now.


don't forget stanley johnson
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#853 » by Plossum » Mon Jul 8, 2019 2:00 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:RHJ and OG? Might as well just give them the repeat now.

Is there enough :lift: to go around?!
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#854 » by paulpressey25 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 2:32 am

Coach Carter wrote:raptors fans calling out uncle dennis now, hilarious


I sort of think Kawhi deserves some call out on the whole thing. Been critical of LeBron playing GM to the detriment of his team, and now Kawhi does the exact same thing.

Dallas, Orl, Atl, etc. would have gladly taken Gallo into cap space for a sole first round pick. Then Kawhi should have worked with West to bring over Kemba and Horford. Under that scenario they keep SGA and all those picks, and have a better team. But Kawhi had to have PG13, so they literally paid in blood to acquire him for Kawhi.
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#855 » by ClassicJack » Mon Jul 8, 2019 4:45 am

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Coach Carter wrote:raptors fans calling out uncle dennis now, hilarious


I sort of think Kawhi deserves some call out on the whole thing. Been critical of LeBron playing GM to the detriment of his team, and now Kawhi does the exact same thing.

Dallas, Orl, Atl, etc. would have gladly taken Gallo into cap space for a sole first round pick. Then Kawhi should have worked with West to bring over Kemba and Horford. Under that scenario they keep SGA and all those picks, and have a better team. But Kawhi had to have PG13, so they literally paid in blood to acquire him for Kawhi.


So you're okay with him controlling things but only in a way a long time realgm poster could appreciate? He didn't go out of his way to secretly meet with Kemba or Horford. He wanted to play with PG and they should be contenders thru the rest of their primes barring injury. He has no reason to give a damn about Clippers' assets that outside of SGA, probably won't matter until he's done or close to it.
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#856 » by Chuck Diesel » Mon Jul 8, 2019 6:03 am

Treat yourselves to a look at Toronto’s shooting guard depth. Behind Norman Powell lay in wait computer generated players “Matt Thomas” and “Terence Davis”
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#857 » by truly » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:39 am

Would any of you do the Toronto deal that was reported?

Siakam,FVV,4 firsts for PG?That's essentialy PG+Kawhi for 4 years.
I know i would.Unless ofc OKC was just playing them.
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Re: ATL: Kawhi and Paul George to Clippers, pg 18 

Post#858 » by TroyD92 » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:53 am

truly wrote:Would any of you do the Toronto deal that was reported?

Siakam,FVV,4 firsts for PG?That's essentialy PG+Kawhi for 4 years.
I know i would.Unless ofc OKC was just playing them.


I would, but four firsts is a lot.
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Re: ATL: Free Agency 

Post#859 » by soxperry » Mon Jul 8, 2019 7:55 am

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DrWood wrote:can everyone please stop mentioning Bledsoe as a bad contract. He was the 2nd best guy on our team and he's making half of what Midds is going to make.


Bledsoe had a good reg season but no one cares about that anymore. His Toronto series was abysmal. He was a big reason we lost. His contract is fine but he wasnt the second best player on the team

Advanced stats say he was.
So do my eyes.
If you disagree, you might need to explore stats and rediscover how to watch NBA basketball.


Thanks for the tip. Here's the thing: Bud agrees with me. Thats why Bledsoe got yanked for George Hill later in the Toronto series. Why? He was a burden on the court. His presence enabled Toronto to double team at will. Why cover him?

By the way... And this is really a strong point im about to make so perk those ears: They werent leaving Khris wide open. So i dont know if you can look this up on a game by game basis but remember that Bledsoe's three point shooting stats were accomplished on mostly wide open shots while Khris was being swarmed. Did your advanced stats account for that? Or did your eye test malfunction?

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Re: ATL: Free Agency 

Post#860 » by truly » Mon Jul 8, 2019 8:17 am

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soxperry wrote:
Bledsoe had a good reg season but no one cares about that anymore. His Toronto series was abysmal. He was a big reason we lost. His contract is fine but he wasnt the second best player on the team

Advanced stats say he was.
So do my eyes.
If you disagree, you might need to explore stats and rediscover how to watch NBA basketball.


Thanks for the tip. Here's the thing: Bud agrees with me. Thats why Bledsoe got yanked for George Hill later in the Toronto series. Why? He was a burden on the court. His presence enabled Toronto to double team at will. Why cover him?

By the way... And this is really a strong point im about to make so perk those ears: They werent leaving Khris wide open. So i dont know if you can look this up on a game by game basis but remember that Bledsoe's three point shooting stats were accomplished on mostly wide open shots while Khris was being swarmed. Did your advanced stats account for that? Or did your eye test malfunction?

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Are you arguing about the second best player in the Toronto series?Because i think what he is saying is over the course of the season,where bledsoe has a very strong case.
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