coolhandluke121 wrote:mkegb wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:
You should check out the 2019 ECF because apparently you missed it. Being informed helps you avoid obnoxious posts like this.
I agree with some of the initial post, we should do whatever we can to win NOW. However, giving up the 2026 swap an 2027 unprotected pick was bad.
We all watched the 2019 ECF, wouldn't you agree we would have won that series pretty easily if we had Holiday instead of Bledsoe? Yeah a couple of free throw makes, we probably win. But if we had Holiday, it would have never come down to a few FTs.
We can't go back in time and put Jrue in that series though. Who knows how this plays out. And this is not like Kawhi-to-the-Raptors move that clearly bumps you several tiers up in one fell swoop. This is a nice boost, but other ways to get this much of a boost would have come along eventually. I'm not sure I've ever seen a single season where at least one more favorable trade opportunity than this didn't come up eventually (not necessarily a better player, but definitely a better price, or two players not quite as good as Jrue while giving up less than the Bucks gave just for Jrue).
Most importantly, you shouldn't have to give up 4 damn unprotected picks 4-7 years from now, when this team's window of contention is likely over (assume the keep Khris, Bogdan, and Jrue and are good for 3 more years), to get a better player than Bledsoe. That's just crazy to me. It gets worse and worse the more I think about it. My only hope is that they might trade Khris and Brook for some young guys to extend their window. Barring that, I see this as a move that people around the league will cite for decades to come as what NEVER to do. I'm not even sure I would want to pay Jrue a max deal from age 31-35 if I had to give up anything more than Bledsoe and Hill for the right to do it, let alone for #24 and 4 potential lotto picks. Eff this.
And I never said we shouldn't trade the picks to "WIN NOW". I said you have to get better value than this. Much better.
I gotta imagine that the Bucks already talked about an extension with Jrue, you don't trade picks that far out if you are not 100% certain you are keeping your core together. I also do not think that Jrue is getting a max extension and if you extend him 4 years, that brings to to age 35 and the 2025 season. So the 2025 unprotected pick is fine its the 2026 swap and 2027 unprotected that was dumb.
Plus, I think Holiday at 35 is not going to be that big of a drop off from 30. I would be happy with production that is similar to Chris Paul at age 36 today.
