Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Moose Returns

[tski1972]

Regarding a possible PHX/MIL trade, how often do teams that have a legitimate chance of meeting in the finals make a trade with one another?

[emunney]

What would you call a top ten 1st rounder not getting his rookie deal renewed just after one season? Maybe too early to say reclamation project, but he’s been wildly inconsistent and that org from everything I’ve read has been pretty down on him since he got injured with the ankle last year. Feels like they would be punting too early, but I’ll take him over here.

It comes down to money for the Suns.

With that assclown sarver it's always a factor but in smiths case replacing him with a vet minimum guy results in pretty minimal savings next season.

I would love to know what they saw in 12 months to go from liking a dude enough to take him in the lotto to disliking him so much you move on especially since he never played last season after getting hurt then getting covid.

As I was saying before James Jones and Monty Williams have a type of player they want around that team and once someone is deemed not one of their guys they move on quickly. It's frustrated some suns fans, hell people still complain about giving TJ Warren away but you can't deny the culture has done a 180 since Jones took over.

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Saw that Rankin dropped in a podcast a couple months back that they thought his work ethic was suspect.

[rilamann]

I've been on the trading for Jalen Smith bandwagon for awhile now. Would love to see him in a Bucks uniform.

[Xanadu]

So I am not sure if this could work cap wise. How about going after 2 Orlando guys?
Bucks send DDV and Nwora
Orl sends Gary Harris and Mo Bamba
We replace DDV valuable D with the rejuvenated Harris. Also get a young big who still has potential in Bamba.
Orlando gets a young guard who fits perfectly into their timeline and team. Also get a young scoring wing to replace Ross who I am sure is also traded.
Maybe we have to add salary or 2nd not sure.

[Xanadu]

So yeah Harris is still on a 20 million dollar deal
So he won't work but DDV and Nwora work for Mo straight up. Maybe Semi instead or perhaps we get a high 2nd back as well.

[KidA24]

Why do you all think PJ Tucker, even if the Bucks decided to match his contract in Miami, wanted to spend winter in Milwaukee?

[jakecronus8]

Why do you all think PJ Tucker, even if the Bucks decided to match his contract in Miami, wanted to spend winter in Milwaukee?

Glad to see someone bring this up. Besides the luxury tax implications, the Bucks weren’t going to get a hometown discount. Really it would’ve been a home town tax as they would’ve needed to offer significantly more money to get PJ to pick Milwaukee over south beach.

[Ell Curry]

If Goran gets bought out, he probably heads to Dallas, but if he had any interest in joining us, I'd take him over Hill in a heartbeat.

TOR isn't buying him out, they'll let him pout at home and expire. If they deal him and he gets bought out, he's going back to Miami.

Raps fan here.

1. Curious how you guys see DiVincenzo, because Boucher for DeVincenzo makes some sense for us if he's the guy he was before his injury and recent struggles. It makes us worse this year considering Boucher has been a 12-7 guy in 25 minutes a game the last 25 games or so, but we're a win one round at the most team this year anyways, and DeVincenzo might be cheap to resign and in theory he's the kind of big ballhandling guard who makes sense for us since we're going all in on all wings all the time and flying around on defence basically.

2. I could see us buying out Dragic because we're only 270K under the luxury tax and if Dragic gives us back a million or two to get his freedom and get it back elsewhere (like Miami) if there's a buyout guard who fits like Gary Harris (he might ringchase but also might want playing time to earn a decent MLE deal next year, though I guess the Lakers, Cavs or a return to Denver are better options in all respects maybe. The other reason would be to clear 1M or so under the cap if we make a deal like Dragic and a 2nd rounder for Gary Harris or another where we take on more than 270K in salary and need to shed some to not pay the tax.

[DrWood]

Why do you all think PJ Tucker, even if the Bucks decided to match his contract in Miami, wanted to spend winter in Milwaukee?

I think the bucks rightly had lukewarm interest in him. Then Tucker found Jesus or some great PEDs and miraculously started playing the best basketball of his career at age 36.

[DrWood]

Pat has been a bit of an enigma this year. His 3P% is high, but he has the worst +/- on the team, outside of Nwora and a bunch of guys who haven't gotten many minutes. I looked at the ratings for the 5-man lineups he's been in, and the ones where he's replaced Giannis, Midds, or Bobby have all been bad, with the exception of a 4-guard lineup that had not many minutes.
People have looked at him as a small PF, but that might not be a good role for him.

[ShootingtheJ]

Bucks get : Yuta Watanabe
Pistons get: Jordan Nwora
Raptors get: Frank Jackson

Pistons get a young scorer for a productive guard who plays their only position of depth. Raptors get a badly needed reserve PG, and also deal from position of depth. Bucks add a long agile forward who defends, rebounds, and can shoot the 3.

[ShootingtheJ]

Regarding a possible PHX/MIL trade, how often do teams that have a legitimate chance of meeting in the finals make a trade with one another?

Well, there was the Torrey Craig deal last year.

[ShootingtheJ]

If Goran gets bought out, he probably heads to Dallas, but if he had any interest in joining us, I'd take him over Hill in a heartbeat.

TOR isn't buying him out, they'll let him pout at home and expire. If they deal him and he gets bought out, he's going back to Miami.

Raps fan here.

1. Curious how you guys see DiVincenzo, because Boucher for DeVincenzo makes some sense for us if he's the guy he was before his injury and recent struggles. It makes us worse this year considering Boucher has been a 12-7 guy in 25 minutes a game the last 25 games or so, but we're a win one round at the most team this year anyways, and DeVincenzo might be cheap to resign and in theory he's the kind of big ballhandling guard who makes sense for us since we're going all in on all wings all the time and flying around on defence basically.

2. I could see us buying out Dragic because we're only 270K under the luxury tax and if Dragic gives us back a million or two to get his freedom and get it back elsewhere (like Miami) if there's a buyout guard who fits like Gary Harris (he might ringchase but also might want playing time to earn a decent MLE deal next year, though I guess the Lakers, Cavs or a return to Denver are better options in all respects maybe. The other reason would be to clear 1M or so under the cap if we make a deal like Dragic and a 2nd rounder for Gary Harris or another where we take on more than 270K in salary and need to shed some to not pay the tax.

Donte would be a terrific fit for the Raptors, I think him replacing Flynn makes them instantly better.

However, a straight up Donte for Boucher isn't legal for us as a tax team. If we add any other player to the deal, it's legal, and we can even take a minimum salary back.

Is Boucher the right guy for us? He rebounds and rim protects, but I see him as a center only. Is he agile enough to defend a good forward?

[AussieBuck]

TOR isn't buying him out, they'll let him pout at home and expire. If they deal him and he gets bought out, he's going back to Miami.

Raps fan here.

1. Curious how you guys see DiVincenzo, because Boucher for DeVincenzo makes some sense for us if he's the guy he was before his injury and recent struggles. It makes us worse this year considering Boucher has been a 12-7 guy in 25 minutes a game the last 25 games or so, but we're a win one round at the most team this year anyways, and DeVincenzo might be cheap to resign and in theory he's the kind of big ballhandling guard who makes sense for us since we're going all in on all wings all the time and flying around on defence basically.

2. I could see us buying out Dragic because we're only 270K under the luxury tax and if Dragic gives us back a million or two to get his freedom and get it back elsewhere (like Miami) if there's a buyout guard who fits like Gary Harris (he might ringchase but also might want playing time to earn a decent MLE deal next year, though I guess the Lakers, Cavs or a return to Denver are better options in all respects maybe. The other reason would be to clear 1M or so under the cap if we make a deal like Dragic and a 2nd rounder for Gary Harris or another where we take on more than 270K in salary and need to shed some to not pay the tax.

Donte would be a terrific fit for the Raptors, I think him replacing Flynn makes them instantly better.

However, a straight up Donte for Boucher isn't legal for us as a tax team. If we add any other player to the deal, it's legal, and we can even take a minimum salary back.

Is Boucher the right guy for us? He rebounds and rim protects, but I see him as a center only. Is he agile enough to defend a good forward?

Not a problem, he can't defend anyone.

[yannisk]

Pat has been a bit of an enigma this year.

People have looked at him as a small PF, but that might not be a good role for him.

Size wise, he is adequate for a SG, small for a SF and tiny for a PF

[Milbucks96]

Pat has been a bit of an enigma this year. His 3P% is high, but he has the worst +/- on the team, outside of Nwora and a bunch of guys who haven't gotten many minutes. I looked at the ratings for the 5-man lineups he's been in, and the ones where he's replaced Giannis, Midds, or Bobby have all been bad, with the exception of a 4-guard lineup that had not many minutes.
People have looked at him as a small PF, but that might not be a good role for him.

Yea I was big on pat from the summer and been watching his on/off numbers and thought maybe it was just the weird lineups at the beginning, but like you said they’ve been consistently bad.

It seemed like he was best at the small ball 4 in the playoffs and that was the best ball of his career. Maybe it was just favorable matchups in the playoffs or him playing with finals level effort is the thing that makes it work. Whatever the case it’s been super ineffective. Wes seems to have been slotted into that small ball 4 spot lately and it’s been up and down from the eye test.

[paulpressey25]

Why do you all think PJ Tucker, even if the Bucks decided to match his contract in Miami, wanted to spend winter in Milwaukee?

That’s why he asked for 2/$20 from Milwaukee and not the $7.5 Miami offered.

[emunney]

Bucks get : Yuta Watanabe
Pistons get: Jordan Nwora
Raptors get: Frank Jackson

Pistons get a young scorer for a productive guard who plays their only position of depth. Raptors get a badly needed reserve PG, and also deal from position of depth. Bucks add a long agile forward who defends, rebounds, and can shoot the 3.

[aboveAverage]

Horst usually fixes his mistakes at the trade deadline by packaging 2nd rounders and consolidating for playoff talent. I expect Hood and Semi to be gone soon and a big to be brought in. If not, I’ll be massively disappointed.

[buckbeer]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/265591/Knicks-Open-To-Trading-Kemba-Walker-Evan-Fournier-and-Alec-Burks

Alec Burks is available for trade. He's a good 3pt shooter and can play SF.

Trade DDV + Hood + Semi for Burks.