It's Dame Time!

[glenn]

Find it interesting that the former NBA players on ESPN were all ecstatic about seeing Dame in Milwaukee while all of the talking heads are in mourning.

[MiltownHawkeye]

I like him as a player and generally think positively of his time here, but if Grayson was the player these ESPN talking heads seem to suddenly think he is we'd have won another ring by now.

[Ron Swanson]

The Cope from all the national media talking heads is intoxicating. Feed it into my veins.

[The Wet Whistle]

You guys care waaaay too much about what talking heads say, imo

[MickeyDavis]

You guys care waaaay too much about what talking heads say, imo

I don't think anyone actually cares. We're just enjoying their "crisis management".

[BucksFanSD]

So it sounds to me that Toronto had the best offer I imagine but in the end Portland honored Lillard's top three team request due to his 11 years of loyalty.

[giannis and 1]

Windhorst isn't necessarily wrong. If Portland deals Jrue for Brogdon and two #1's, we will have some issues with that team.

We need Jrue to stay in Portland. Since the trade is official, do they have to wait now to re-route him somewhere?

It would hve to be more than just Brogdon due to salary matching. Something like Brogdon+Horford+1st. Still worth it for Boston but no where near the impact of the addition of Dame for us.

[sidney lanier]

The pundits are quite overzealous
"Slow your roll" is the thing that they tell us
And that Lillard for Jrue
Is no dream coming true
The whole Eastern seaboard is jealous

[MickeyDavis]

Some of what Lowe wrote about our new offense

Lillard doesn't merely boost Milwaukee's half-court offense -- its weak link even in that 2021 title run, its undoing in every other postseason. He allows for a total reimagining of it. He is, by himself, damn near a walking top-five offense. Milwaukee's defense should be good enough and then some as long as both Antetokounmpo and Lopez -- two Defensive Player of the Year candidates last season -- are on the floor at go time.

The Lillard-Antetokounmpo pick-and-roll -- with everyone else spotting up around it -- becomes a supercharged version of the Middleton-Antetokounmpo two-man game that was Milwaukee's tentpole in their championship season. That partnership drifted away from the Bucks amid Middleton's injuries and his uneven play upon returning last season. It was not something they could count on as they unraveled in fourth quarters against Miami in the first round. Holiday's decision-making and overall offense were scattershot in every Milwaukee playoff run.

Lillard is the second-most-talented pull-up 3-point shooter in NBA history, behind only Stephen Curry. He is the ballhandling failsafe Milwaukee has not had in two years, and never really did. Even in Middleton's best seasons, the Bucks got by in the half-court -- relying more on Antetokounmpo's transition thunderclaps and brutish offensive rebounding. With Lillard, the Bucks can run pick-and-roll from more spots and far-flung places -- stretching defenses to their breaking points. They can ease Middleton into a third option role for which he is better-suited now.

Every season, Lillard gets cagier as a driver and playmaker. He's not an A-plus passer, but he's very good -- steadier than anyone Milwaukee has tried in that role across Antetokounmpo's prime. Lillard takes care of the ball and gets to the line a ton -- almost 10 times per game last season, a career high.

When Antetokounmpo wants to cook, Lillard is as intimidating a floor-spacer as exists outside the Bay Area. Watch out for the inverted Antetokounmpo-Lillard pick-and-roll, especially in semi-transition. Good god.

[emunney]

Some of this is beyond embarrassing

Read on Twitter

I'M NOT SURE HE'S A BETTER FIT FOR THE BUCKS. How can these guys make a career out of something they're so dumb about?

[emunney]

Some of what Lowe wrote about our new offense

Lillard doesn't merely boost Milwaukee's half-court offense -- its weak link even in that 2021 title run, its undoing in every other postseason. He allows for a total reimagining of it. He is, by himself, damn near a walking top-five offense. Milwaukee's defense should be good enough and then some as long as both Antetokounmpo and Lopez -- two Defensive Player of the Year candidates last season -- are on the floor at go time.

The Lillard-Antetokounmpo pick-and-roll -- with everyone else spotting up around it -- becomes a supercharged version of the Middleton-Antetokounmpo two-man game that was Milwaukee's tentpole in their championship season. That partnership drifted away from the Bucks amid Middleton's injuries and his uneven play upon returning last season. It was not something they could count on as they unraveled in fourth quarters against Miami in the first round. Holiday's decision-making and overall offense were scattershot in every Milwaukee playoff run.

Lillard is the second-most-talented pull-up 3-point shooter in NBA history, behind only Stephen Curry. He is the ballhandling failsafe Milwaukee has not had in two years, and never really did. Even in Middleton's best seasons, the Bucks got by in the half-court -- relying more on Antetokounmpo's transition thunderclaps and brutish offensive rebounding. With Lillard, the Bucks can run pick-and-roll from more spots and far-flung places -- stretching defenses to their breaking points. They can ease Middleton into a third option role for which he is better-suited now.

Every season, Lillard gets cagier as a driver and playmaker. He's not an A-plus passer, but he's very good -- steadier than anyone Milwaukee has tried in that role across Antetokounmpo's prime. Lillard takes care of the ball and gets to the line a ton -- almost 10 times per game last season, a career high.

When Antetokounmpo wants to cook, Lillard is as intimidating a floor-spacer as exists outside the Bay Area. Watch out for the inverted Antetokounmpo-Lillard pick-and-roll, especially in semi-transition. Good god.

God bless Zach Lowe for actually having more than a superficial understanding of the game he's paid to talk/write about.

[giannis and 1]

Dame was a proper Batman of a team for many years. He is 2nd best shooter in the league and one of the best ever. He is also one of the best closers in the game. All the kids know who he is and he just had his best season of his career as the league's top 3 scorer. He is a legit superstar of the game right now.

Were all the guys above legit superstars at while they were playing at your state? Not just all stars or great young players years before they became proper superstars. I know there is no doubt about Kareem and Rodgers. I think Oscar Robertson was pretty young when he joined the Bucks and I have no idea about the others.

Rodgers was in MVP form while Adams was generally considered a t3 WR in the league so yeah

There have been a couple of instances the past couple decades where the Brewers had multiple MVP-caliber players at the same time but none of them were future Hall of Fame guys

Is that CC Sabathia? Love that guy.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Some of this is beyond embarrassing

Read on Twitter

What was the fact/fiction quesion?

[LatentFrog]

How long until the Dame jerseys drop?

[Turk Nowitzki]

Some of this is beyond embarrassing

Read on Twitter

What was the fact/fiction quesion?

It was "Milwaukee is now the 2023 title favorite", which is perfectly ok to disagree with. The defenses and reasoning of that take is what is so offensively stupid.

[engelmartin]

Some of this is beyond embarrassing

Read on Twitter

What was the fact/fiction quesion?

Yeah, and what they're saying is fiction, so I guess it makes sense under the headings?

[emunney]

Acquiring Damian Lillard in a trade and Bobby Marks' first reaction is "losing a shooter in Grayson Allen hurts". It's impossible to be that dense by accident.

[RogerMurdock]

Lillard said he'd come back for training camp, and would even rejoin the team to start the season so long as the org kept trying to trade him.
Org said no, we're gonna trade you.

Blazers wouldn't take the Heat's "best offer" (noted above).
Bucks, Celts, Raptors, TWolves, Bulls all showed interest.
Lillard explicitly said he would also like to play for the Bucks or Nets.
Phoenix was inserting themselves into the deal due to Ayton interest, regardless of who the team getting Dame was.

That's basically it. Nothing really new, just a summary.

The article was shockingly uninformative. The only somewhat interesting thing is that Lillard was willing to go to training camp with Portland and then said he was ok with going to Milwaukee or Brooklyn. Thought there would be some details as to how the Bucks end of the trade came together, but it was basically just that the Bucks jumped in within the last week and made an offer. I guess the part about the Suns being in on it from the get-go was kind of interesting, but would've liked to know more about how it got done with the Bucks.

[ReasonablySober]

How long until the Dame jerseys drop?

Read on Twitter

[skbucks1985]

Lillard said he'd come back for training camp, and would even rejoin the team to start the season so long as the org kept trying to trade him.
Org said no, we're gonna trade you.

Blazers wouldn't take the Heat's "best offer" (noted above).
Bucks, Celts, Raptors, TWolves, Bulls all showed interest.
Lillard explicitly said he would also like to play for the Bucks or Nets.
Phoenix was inserting themselves into the deal due to Ayton interest, regardless of who the team getting Dame was.

That's basically it. Nothing really new, just a summary.

The article was shockingly uninformative. The only somewhat interesting thing is that Lillard was willing to go to training camp with Portland and then said he was ok with going to Milwaukee or Brooklyn. Thought there would be some details as to how the Bucks end of the trade came together, but it was basically just that the Bucks jumped in within the last week and made an offer. I guess the part about the Suns being in on it from the get-go was kind of interesting, but would've liked to know more about how it got done with the Bucks.

Marc Spears tweeted that out last night so anyone saw that before reading the article even that wasn't new information to them