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Post#841 » by RRyder823 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:15 am

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SirChurros wrote:You’d be hard pressed to find a stretch where we played consistently good basketball for more than a few games. Maybe that changes with reps this summer and Delon Wright, but I’m pessimistic.




I agree with that lack of continuity lack of coheshion chemistry agree.Doc even said he never put his O n D system in last year n the big 3 played only 13 games together.I think a full TC a very in shape n healthy dame n midds n giannis doc fingerprints on the O n D this team will be much sharper hell they won 49 games playing like sh... most of the year

I hope so. I’m confident that Dame, Giannis and Khris can thrive together if healthy. It’s the rest of the roster that I’m more worried about.

But I don’t have the confidence some do in Marjon, AJax or Dairy Bird.


Barring a trade (possible) whether or not this team is a legit contenders next year rests on at least 2 of those 3 being legitimate contributors. They don't need to be All Stars or 6th men of the year or anything like that but even if they can just only be 2021 Patty C level that would be huge if only so we don't burn out our top 3 because we're getting burned anytime they sit down.



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Post#842 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:27 am

Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?
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Post#843 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:31 am

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JayMKE wrote:we need as many guys who can defend as possible, Bev's antics were overblown imo


I just feel like his teammates probably get annoyed by him but i could be wrong

Anyway, if Pat comes back fir a bench role im fine with it, but we need a better starter.


same was with tucker but our guys are soft that way... thats the whole point. they need a dawg type on the roster or they get pushed around. they are all naturally nice guys. meek even. the tough guy act from portis and the bitching to the refs by lopez is kind of the closest thing we get to showing any real energy and pizazz.

bring bev back. id love to have him again


Dawgs are for the fans. We need actual defenders. Bev was OK, but his declining quickness made it tough for him when matched with PGs, which is what we need him for.

Tucker was as fake tough as it gets. Khris Middleton is actual tough, never backs down.
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Post#844 » by crowhead76 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:32 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?



What about the Nets or the Magic?
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Umude Signed to 2-way 

Post#845 » by The Wet Whistle » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:37 am

One of Watford, Achiuwa, or Giles could be interesting. None are needle movers, but that's what you're stuck with operating with just minimum contracts
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Post#847 » by Matches Malone » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:41 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A Zach Collins/Jeremy Sochan package could be intriguing. They're probably trying to make Horst take Keldon.
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Post#848 » by yb90 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 2:54 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.
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Post#849 » by bucksfansince88 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:01 am

yb90 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.




I’d take this guy too but The guy to get is Vassell

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Post#850 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:02 am

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ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.


Not here, but maybe somewhere. However, they've dangled him before.
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Post#851 » by machu46 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:03 am

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ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.




I’d take this guy too but The guy to get is Vassell

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They aren’t trading Vassell for anything short of probably Giannis or Dame.


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Post#852 » by Frank Nova » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:05 am

yb90 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.


Keldon Johnson is nothing more than a backup to Middleton and a situational rotational player in Milwaukee. You can’t trade Brook Lopez for a player that can only fill those 2 roles when Brooks role is as valuable as it already is.

Brook needs traded for someone that can handle duties in the playoffs playing D against the elite guards and wings we gotta play.
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Post#853 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:09 am

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ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.




I’d take this guy too but The guy to get is Vassell

https://youtu.be/c9xX9Lmlb0g?si=qhdp_fka7stlcGlH


Yeah he'd be awesome, what else would we have to throw in?
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Post#854 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:10 am

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yb90 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Spurs want Brook. I don't want Keldon Johnson, but might someone else be interested in a scorer? Houston?


A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.


Keldon Johnson is nothing more than a backup to Middleton and a situational rotational player in Milwaukee. You can’t trade Brook Lopez for a player that can only fill those 2 roles when Brooks role is as valuable as it already is.

Brook needs traded for someone that can handle duties in the playoffs playing D against the elite guards and wings we gotta play.


Trade Khris for that defense. Johnson would give the Bucks the 12-15 points a night needed in the playoffs that Middleton provides, but for half the cost.
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Post#855 » by theFireBlanket » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:13 am

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A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.


Keldon Johnson is nothing more than a backup to Middleton and a situational rotational player in Milwaukee. You can’t trade Brook Lopez for a player that can only fill those 2 roles when Brooks role is as valuable as it already is.

Brook needs traded for someone that can handle duties in the playoffs playing D against the elite guards and wings we gotta play.


Trade Khris for that defense. Johnson would give the Bucks the 12-15 points a night needed in the playoffs that Middleton provides, but for half the cost.


12-15 ? He just averaged 25ppg without benefitting from Giannis & Dame spacing. What are you on about?
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Post#856 » by randy84 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:15 am



I posted this for the coach.
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Post#857 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:19 am

randy84 wrote:

I posted this for the coach.

It seems like a move that Washington made to clear up salary for potential moves and then they're going to resign him after to a longer deal but I dunno, he'd be a good pickup.
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Post#858 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:21 am

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Keldon Johnson is nothing more than a backup to Middleton and a situational rotational player in Milwaukee. You can’t trade Brook Lopez for a player that can only fill those 2 roles when Brooks role is as valuable as it already is.

Brook needs traded for someone that can handle duties in the playoffs playing D against the elite guards and wings we gotta play.


Trade Khris for that defense. Johnson would give the Bucks the 12-15 points a night needed in the playoffs that Middleton provides, but for half the cost.


12-15 ? He just averaged 25ppg without benefitting from Giannis & Dame spacing. What are you on about?


How many points do you expect Middleton to score as a clear third option in the playoffs? Go look at the history of third options behind two dominant scorers in the playoffs. Middleton will score in line with what he does in the regular season, about 15 a night. A lot of guys can score an efficient 15 a night as a third option.

Middleton's value to the Bucks is as a highly prized trade piece.
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Post#859 » by machu46 » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:22 am

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Trade Khris for that defense. Johnson would give the Bucks the 12-15 points a night needed in the playoffs that Middleton provides, but for half the cost.


12-15 ? He just averaged 25ppg without benefitting from Giannis & Dame spacing. What are you on about?


How many points do you expect Middleton to score as a clear third option in the playoffs? Go look at the history of third options behind two dominant scorers in the playoffs. Middleton will score in line with what he does in the regular season, about 15 a night. A lot of guys can score an efficient 15 a night as a third option.

Middleton's value to the Bucks is as a highly prized trade piece.


Klay averaged 20+ in the playoffs with Steph and Durant. How many members of a big 3 went on to average 12 points? I'm guessing the list is quite short. Middleton also brings value as a team defender and creator for others, neither of which Keldon does (and I know you don't actually believe Middleton does provide those things but you're simply wrong on that).
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Umude Signed to 2-way 

Post#860 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 2, 2024 3:23 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
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A 24 year old scorer that is locked into a contract that decreases to 17.5m over his final 2 yrs should be welcomed.


Keldon Johnson is nothing more than a backup to Middleton and a situational rotational player in Milwaukee. You can’t trade Brook Lopez for a player that can only fill those 2 roles when Brooks role is as valuable as it already is.

Brook needs traded for someone that can handle duties in the playoffs playing D against the elite guards and wings we gotta play.


Trade Khris for that defense. Johnson would give the Bucks the 12-15 points a night needed in the playoffs that Middleton provides, but for half the cost.


When in the hell did Khris ever score only 12-15 points in a playoff game?

Middleton is also a better defender, rebounder, and playmaker than Johnson.

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