Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Edens: "Giannis made it very clear he is committed to Milwaukee"

[Matches Malone]

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[KidA24]

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Well, I'm taking the under on the season

[giannis and 1]

Hopefully the Clippers get a huge fine and Kawhi’s contract gets terminated, and we sign him.

[higharc]

Hopefully the Clippers get a huge fine and Kawhi’s contract gets terminated, and we sign him.

Well, Bucks need a SF still

[PG Graveyard]

Hopefully the Clippers get a huge fine and Kawhi’s contract gets terminated, and we sign him.

If that were remotely possible Silver would make sure it doesn’t

[emunney]

Cleaning out my desk and found the documentation for my timeshare on Bonga Island.

[emunney]

BTW did the certificate on this site expire?

[Licensed to Il]

Weird premonition that this could be the most fun Bucks season in quite a while (championship excluded, of course).

[paulpressey25]

BTW did the certificate on this site expire?

Yes, was told it will be fixed today.

[GoldenAntlers]

Weird premonition that this could be the most fun Bucks season in quite a while (championship excluded, of course).

Been thinking that myself for a few weeks now. I really need to get to Poto and bet the over before it's too late

[raferfenix]

Horst's final business of the offseason is far and away most likely to be an AJ Green extension (or non-extension) as well as deciding who gets the 15th roster spot between Tyler Smith / Ajax / Amir Coffey.

But if something bigger were to happen it'd either be a Kuzma deal to a team like the Kings finally giving up on a Kuminga sign and trade, or the Bucks being a dark horse to pick up Kuminga for ourselves:

The Warriors have strengthened their effort. Late last week, Dunleavy offered Kuminga a three-year, $75.2 million deal with a team option in the third season, sources told ESPN. That's $48.3 million guaranteed in the first two seasons and basically the same per year salary as fellow restricted free agent Josh Giddey, who re-signed with the Chicago Bulls for four years and $100 million. The difference: Half the length and a team-controlled third season and a subliminal understanding that the contract is more trade asset than commitment to a partnership.

Dunleavy and the Warriors are requesting the same structure as their previous proposal on the two-year, $45 million framework -- a team option on the second season and a waiving of the inherent no-trade clause, sources said.

Their unwillingness to budge on the team option in those specific two offers is a major part of the holdup. Kuminga, gripping to the first lever of control he has had in his young career, is resistant to the idea of it, sources said. The only non-team option offer the Warriors have made to Kuminga is three years and $54 million fully guaranteed, sources said, an average of $18 million per season.

Turner and Kuminga have spent much of the summer requesting a player option as part of their preferred deals, sources said, showing a willingness to dip down into the $20 million per year range for it, but believing a team option deal should cost around $30 million per year. The Warriors have also viewed a player option as a nonstarter, sources said.

Kuminga has stated a belief that he has multitime All-Star potential. He has lined up loss of value insurance to protect himself in the event he signs the qualifying offer. He's intrigued by the possibility of unrestricted free agency next summer, sources said, when at least 10 teams are set to have real cap space. He isn't obsessing over every lost dollar in the moment and sees the qualifying offer as a clean vehicle for career control. Rival teams, most notably the Kings and Suns, have recruited him this summer and his conversations with executives and coaches and others around the league have only emboldened his long-term belief that the risk could be worth the reward.

But there's a reason he hasn't taken the qualifying offer yet. Turner and Kuminga are holding out in case something more appealing -- via contract offer or sign-and-trade -- materializes, in part because of a belief in how imperative it is for the Warriors to avoid having him on the qualifying offer.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46210422/inside-warriors-stalemate-jonathan-kuminga

[nagawicka]

if hes mentally healthy then TA will be the best version of himself since hes been here. screw the physical. theres gonna be some tough moments this year and what we all understand is if giannis is the squad...then TA has been a glue to this squad.

teagues comments on that podcast that was posted here recently really prove that once and for all. that was powerful for me. if you support giannis in bucks green and treasure his unbridled loyalty to us as it appears then we have to give him thansis. its not like lebron recruiting this guy or that....or jordan demanding my boy rusty larue because of the cards and the golf.....thansis is family. hes the franchise consigliere. giannis = the franchise.... and family and loyalty IS his brand. thanasis comes with that and i love it

we need to all remember that it was thanasis that convinced him to sign the last extension too if i remember. to me this is mandatory if we want a giannis extension

I think Teague lowkey likes to be a hater so him saying positive things like that kind of resonates a lot when TA is a pretty easy target

Nah, Teague lays it out there, for real. You just don't like his opinions.

[MickeyDavis]

Teague wants to be relevant. He's not.

[mcfromage]

Kuz IG story re: sharks.

[Daver]

Horst's final business of the offseason is far and away most likely to be an AJ Green extension (or non-extension) as well as deciding who gets the 15th roster spot between Tyler Smith / Ajax / Amir Coffey.

But if something bigger were to happen it'd either be a Kuzma deal to a team like the Kings finally giving up on a Kuminga sign and trade, or the Bucks being a dark horse to pick up Kuminga for ourselves:

The Warriors have strengthened their effort. Late last week, Dunleavy offered Kuminga a three-year, $75.2 million deal with a team option in the third season, sources told ESPN. That's $48.3 million guaranteed in the first two seasons and basically the same per year salary as fellow restricted free agent Josh Giddey, who re-signed with the Chicago Bulls for four years and $100 million. The difference: Half the length and a team-controlled third season and a subliminal understanding that the contract is more trade asset than commitment to a partnership.

Dunleavy and the Warriors are requesting the same structure as their previous proposal on the two-year, $45 million framework -- a team option on the second season and a waiving of the inherent no-trade clause, sources said.

Their unwillingness to budge on the team option in those specific two offers is a major part of the holdup. Kuminga, gripping to the first lever of control he has had in his young career, is resistant to the idea of it, sources said. The only non-team option offer the Warriors have made to Kuminga is three years and $54 million fully guaranteed, sources said, an average of $18 million per season.

Turner and Kuminga have spent much of the summer requesting a player option as part of their preferred deals, sources said, showing a willingness to dip down into the $20 million per year range for it, but believing a team option deal should cost around $30 million per year. The Warriors have also viewed a player option as a nonstarter, sources said.

Kuminga has stated a belief that he has multitime All-Star potential. He has lined up loss of value insurance to protect himself in the event he signs the qualifying offer. He's intrigued by the possibility of unrestricted free agency next summer, sources said, when at least 10 teams are set to have real cap space. He isn't obsessing over every lost dollar in the moment and sees the qualifying offer as a clean vehicle for career control. Rival teams, most notably the Kings and Suns, have recruited him this summer and his conversations with executives and coaches and others around the league have only emboldened his long-term belief that the risk could be worth the reward.

But there's a reason he hasn't taken the qualifying offer yet. Turner and Kuminga are holding out in case something more appealing -- via contract offer or sign-and-trade -- materializes, in part because of a belief in how imperative it is for the Warriors to avoid having him on the qualifying offer.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46210422/inside-warriors-stalemate-jonathan-kuminga

Personally think DD is more likely to come here with kuminga going to the kings in a 3 way deal

[blazza18]

Kuz IG story re: sharks.

He get eaten?

[raferfenix]

Personally think DD is more likely to come here with kuminga going to the kings in a 3 way deal

Kuzma goes to Golden State in this scenario (who'd likely need to send out Moody or Hield with Kuminga to make the numbers work), or what did you have in mind?

DeRozan's partially guaranteed second year on his contract certainly could be more valuable as filler salary than Kuz at the deadline or next offseason.

But even with a significant asset attached (Devin Carter let's say) idk if the Bucks see DeMar as a good enough fit to be worth the trouble.

For that matter, Doc / Horst highly valuing a big athletic versatile forward is also where I'm not shutting the door on the Bucks potentially -- still -- being interested in Kuminga....at least if the price gets low enough.

[BUCKnation]

Kuz IG story re: sharks.

Shanghai?

[Daver]

Personally think DD is more likely to come here with kuminga going to the kings in a 3 way deal

Kuzma goes to Golden State in this scenario (who'd likely need to send out Moody or Hield with Kuminga to make the numbers work), or what did you have in mind?

DeRozan's partially guaranteed second year on his contract certainly could be more valuable as filler salary than Kuz at the deadline or next offseason.

But even with a significant asset attached (Devin Carter let's say) idk if the Bucks see DeMar as a good enough fit to be worth the trouble.

For that matter, Doc / Horst highly valuing a big athletic versatile forward is also where I'm not shutting the door on the Bucks potentially -- still -- being interested in Kuminga....at least if the price gets low enough.

Serious question here why would kuminga be a better fit next to giannis thsn DD when the majority of this board has stated he cant shoot 3s n only csn score from down low.Dont understand why its lets trade for kuminga n not DD.If between the 2 why is DD not a way better fit.You know what you will get from him 18 plus pts a game high effeciancy shooter great ft shooter never hurt.Yet he doesnt fit next to giannis n kuminga does ?

[emunney]

Cut Prince, sign Bonga.