ATL: DeMarcus Cousins blows out ACL, pg 89

[soxperry]

Advanced stats say he was.
So do my eyes.
If you disagree, you might need to explore stats and rediscover how to watch NBA basketball.

Thanks for the tip. Here's the thing: Bud agrees with me. Thats why Bledsoe got yanked for George Hill later in the Toronto series. Why? He was a burden on the court. His presence enabled Toronto to double team at will. Why cover him?

By the way... And this is really a strong point im about to make so perk those ears: They werent leaving Khris wide open. So i dont know if you can look this up on a game by game basis but remember that Bledsoe's three point shooting stats were accomplished on mostly wide open shots while Khris was being swarmed. Did your advanced stats account for that? Or did your eye test malfunction?

*swish*

Are you arguing about the second best player in the Toronto series?Because i think what he is saying is over the course of the season,where bledsoe has a very strong case.

You must not have read the quote history and only my last post. Ive addressed that.

[tedbrogen]

Would any of you do the Toronto deal that was reported?

Siakam,FVV,4 firsts for PG?That's essentialy PG+Kawhi for 4 years.
I know i would.Unless ofc OKC was just playing them.

I would, but four firsts is a lot.

If two of those four firsts are when I have Kawhi and PG then those are the 31st pick in the draft, so it's really two firsts half a decade from now. Easiest yes ever.

[wallus]

Would any of you do the Toronto deal that was reported?

Siakam,FVV,4 firsts for PG?That's essentialy PG+Kawhi for 4 years.
I know i would.Unless ofc OKC was just playing them.

Without question I would do that trade. Toronto is back to being irrelevant again and looks to be that way for a few years at least.

[Sigra]

This is terrible for Toronto on so many levels. Now they know that even winning championship isn't enough to keep superstar there.

Heartbreaking honestly.

[Sigra]

Also, I am thinking who is more happy today, Bucks fans or Raptors fans? Yes they just won championship but we are going to watch great basketball again next season and so on...

Which actually make me thinking. Championship itself is great thing but as soon as next season start it is past tense. The Bucks also won championship in past. That team doesnt exist anymore but Raptors team that won championship also doesnt exist anymore. Both are past tense.

What i want to say (with bad english) is that having great team for years is more important then having one championship and then bad team again. At least IMO

[Badgerlander]

Treat yourselves to a look at Toronto’s shooting guard depth. Behind Norman Powell lay in wait computer generated players “Matt Thomas” and “Terence Davis”

I love both of those guys actually, and RHJ. If they are able to get assets for Marc+Ibaka+Lowry...

[drone3]

That's alot of money for Tyus, is he that good?

[Matches Malone]

Also, I am thinking who is more happy today, Bucks fans or Raptors fans? Yes they just won championship but we are going to watch great basketball again next season and so on...

Which actually make me thinking. Championship itself is great thing but as soon as next season start it is past tense. The Bucks also won championship in past. That team doesnt exist anymore but Raptors team that won championship also doesnt exist anymore. Both are past tense.

What i want to say (with bad english) is that having great team for years is more important then having one championship and then bad team again. At least IMO

I get what you're saying, but I think i'd rather have a championship. I think the reason why it doesn't seem like the championship matters as much for the Raptors is because fans and media really only care about the drama outside of the court and all the free agency madness that comes after the season. Media/Fans put more emphasis on the off-season and trade deadline than they do the product on the court.

[MiltownHawkeye]

That's alot of money for Tyus, is he that good?

He's who I wanted as our backup PG if Hill didn't come back. Not as good as Hill but a decade younger.

[jschligs]

Also, I am thinking who is more happy today, Bucks fans or Raptors fans? Yes they just won championship but we are going to watch great basketball again next season and so on...

Which actually make me thinking. Championship itself is great thing but as soon as next season start it is past tense. The Bucks also won championship in past. That team doesnt exist anymore but Raptors team that won championship also doesnt exist anymore. Both are past tense.

What i want to say (with bad english) is that having great team for years is more important then having one championship and then bad team again. At least IMO

I get what you're saying, but I think i'd rather have a championship. I think the reason why it doesn't seem like the championship matters as much for the Raptors is because fans and media really only care about the drama outside of the court and all the free agency madness that comes after the season. Media/Fans put more emphasis on the off-season and trade deadline than they do the product on the court.

Agreed. TOR had the best year possible last year. The took a huge risk and won it all, the ride was amazing. Now they start a new season, but can look back and say "we won in 2018-2019" and nobody else can. I'd take a one year run for a title over 100 years of amazing regular season but always coming up short.

[midranger]

Meh. I’m not going to dance on Toronto’s grave. It’s likely that they’ll endure a few years of certain mediocrity before any potential rebuild is complete. They have a borderline all star level youngish player and some vets they could swing for younger assets at the deadline and a great front office. If they play their cards right, they could be back really quickly.

Plus, they just won the championship. I have endured 25 years of mediocrity (or worse) with two ECF runs/losses to show for it. I could do another for decade for a championship easily. Sure a dynasty is preferable, and they won’t get that, but really guys... This is all just sour grapes.

[emunney]

This is terrible for Toronto on so many levels. Now they know that even winning championship isn't enough to keep superstar there.

Heartbreaking honestly.

It's too bad but they still have the best GM, who knew the risks of this going in, and they gave up *very little* to make it happen. They will still be in the mix for a homecourt playoff series this year as they continue to make good moves. Plus I mean, past tense or not, they did the damn thing. The fans experienced that, there's no substitute for it.

[ReasonablySober]

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Grant's worth a future first?

[Matches Malone]

Grant was pretty good in OKC. That's an underrated move for Denver.

Also makes them moving Gallo even less likely for now.

[Turk Nowitzki]

I'm sure there's protections and Grant is a decent player but that seems like a steep price.

[Bucksfan28]

Grant at a reasonable salary and for a pick likely to be late 1st is a good move. Provides a versatile forward defender next to Jokic. He needs to maintain that plus-3pt shooting though.

[Licensed to Il]

Now that the dust has settled, I think that "the Battle for LA" is going to breathe a ton of fun and life in to the NBA this season. I'm not saying it will be Magic vs Bird, but the league does shine brightest when there is a narrative that features the elite players as rivals. And now you got "Lebron vs Kawhi" in the same building, both leading teams with nba first team level teammates, and championship aspirations. Best of all, Lebron has to feel slighted, Kawhi absolutely used him as leverage (a very Lebron thing to do) to get what he wanted. Though I realize both will rest a lot during the grueling regular season, its been years since we have had a legit rivalry like this with top players in the same conference. I know I for one will definitely tune in each time the Clips and Lakers square off.

[emunney]

Could easily seeing Denver winning it next year.

[Nowak008]

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Grant's worth a future first?

Denver needed a big wing to chase around Lebron/Kawhi/PG. I like this move for them.

[LuessiT]

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Grant's worth a future first?

He was an elite defender that can't shoot except last year he could shoot. He's pretty good. Has a player option but maybe he's willing to extend?